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phoenixreborn
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posted January 27, 2009 06:48 PM

Posting limits

Angelito wrote:
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I would really like to see more OSM threads staying on a kind of "serious" track when discussed, because we have many interesting topics lately. People try to state their point of view, and should be taken seriously! This will make it easier to involve more members into such threads and have a discussion with many more interesting opinions


This is a point of departure for my idea.

Another part of the idea is the Volcanic Wastelands.  In that sub-forum the normal post limits are removed to allow for freedom of expression of nonsense.

This idea goes in the other direction.  On another forum I go to there is a maximum post limit of 2 per day no matter the sub-forum.  This makes sure people only participate when they have worth saying.  I think having a similar limit in the OSM might encourage more people to participate without fear of having their words either

A) Ignored
B) Over-analyzed

I wouldn't want an overall limit, and the actual number per time period is debatable, but only applying to OSM.  Not sure if it is technically possible though.

Thoughts?

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mvassilev
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posted January 27, 2009 06:54 PM

I strongly dislike this idea. It would absolutely kill the Other Side.
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Darkshadow
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posted January 27, 2009 06:56 PM

no, it will stop pointless 1v1 quote wars in the OSM (hopefully).
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mvassilev
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posted January 27, 2009 06:58 PM

If this was implemented, I would leave the OSM completely. What's the point if you can't debate? And I haven't been in any quote wars in a while. And there's nothing preventing people from jumping into them.

People should just get a hold of themselves and stop complaining about the OSM.
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TheDeath
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posted January 27, 2009 07:00 PM

There is a problem when someone quotes someone else and possibly draws a wrong conclusion -- then until that person ever posts again, the discussion might have already been flooded with another subject, and taking that (wrong) conclusion as granted for what it meant. Imagine then saying "Guys, that was not what I was talking about!" and (consequently) making everyone's post on the subject possibly not just off-topic but without a place to be there.
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posted January 27, 2009 07:02 PM

There's nothing wrong with going off-subject, either, unless the TC complains.
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Elvin
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posted January 27, 2009 07:05 PM

Ban quote option for some specific people
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TheDeath
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posted January 27, 2009 07:05 PM

No but going off-track for someone who didn't even mean that, it is.

For example, let's say person X misinterpreted an argument from Y and says "What? You think pedophilia is ok?"

and then people talk about that misinterpretation and about person Y. Finally, person Y can post again and says "That's not even what I meant" --> you realize that all of the posts are USELESS before that, because they posted on a subject that involved a wrong assumption?
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phoenixreborn
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posted January 27, 2009 07:11 PM

That happens anyway.

In this method the person saying "You think pedophilia is ok?" would stop and think 'gee I don't want to waste one of my precious posts today on something as trivial and obviously pointlessly argumentative as this'.

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mvassilev
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posted January 27, 2009 07:22 PM

TheDeath:
Okay, I see what you mean, but I don't understand what it has to do with the subject of the thread.

PR:
Why shouldn't a person post whatever they want? Is a man not entitled to the clattering of his keyboard?
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phoenixreborn
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posted January 27, 2009 07:26 PM

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If this was implemented, I would leave the OSM completely

That doesn't sound like a mature response.  You haven't even seen the range of the limits or attempted to argue about the reasoning behind them.  Plus, it's not all about you.
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What's the point if you can't debate?

You can.
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And I haven't been in any quote wars in a while.

Irrelevant information. You can still have "quote wars". It's about trying to make each post worthwhile and of higher quality than 'spam'.
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And there's nothing preventing people from jumping into them.

Why would anyone want to?
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People should just get a hold of themselves and stop complaining about the OSM.

Who else is complaining about OSM?  Examples please.

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phoenixreborn
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posted January 27, 2009 07:30 PM

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PR:
Why shouldn't a person post whatever they want? Is a man not entitled to the clattering of his keyboard?


The idea limits the number of posts per period of time.  You can post what you, want it makes no limit on content.

Ok a sub-part of this idea is

"How can we get more people involved in OSM?"

Because I've seen comments like "I'm not going to respond to every little word you quoted".  It's a big turn-off for some people.

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mvassilev
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posted January 27, 2009 07:32 PM

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That doesn't sound like a mature response.  You haven't even seen the range of the limits or attempted to argue about the reasoning behind them.  Plus, it's not all about you.
You've described the range of limits. And currently the OSM mostly consists of me, TheDeath, JJ, and Father. If I left, that would significantly damage it.

Not to mention that the limit would kill some threads completely.

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You can.
Well, you can, but not very well. Why should I just sit there and wait for my rebuttal when I can post it now?

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It's about trying to make each post worthwhile and of higher quality than 'spam'.
Spam isn't allowed in the OSM anyway. And not everything has to be a 50-page long essay to be a useful post.

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Why would anyone want to?
Why would anyone want to participate in any debate? If they want to, they can just jump in just like into any other debate.

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Who else is complaining about OSM?
Currently, just you. But others have complained in the past: Asheera, Pan, etc.
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Adrius
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posted January 27, 2009 07:36 PM

Unnecessary.

I see no real reason for this.

It would reduce the popularity of the OSM, which is bad imo. While I don't participate in the threads very often, I enjoy reading them.
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phoenixreborn
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posted January 27, 2009 07:38 PM

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But others have complained in the past: Asheera, Pan, etc.


I certainly can't blame Asheera for complaining.  She can't make a post anywhere on HC or CH without The Death responding often negatively though not always.  It's harassment.

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Darkshadow
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posted January 27, 2009 07:39 PM

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Unnecessary.

I see no real reason for this.

It would reduce the popularity of the OSM, which is bad imo. While I don't participate in the threads very often, I enjoy reading them.


Currently it dosen't attract many newcomers, either.
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angelito
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posted January 27, 2009 07:43 PM

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And currently the OSM mostly consists of me, TheDeath, JJ, and Father...
Ever thought about the reason why it is like this?
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phoenixreborn
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posted January 27, 2009 07:45 PM

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It would reduce the popularity of the OSM, which is bad imo. While I don't participate in the threads very often, I enjoy reading them.


The OSM isn't popular at all.  Why don't you participate?

Oh and I don't remember Pan complaining, I remember her asking "What are you trying to prove?

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TheDeath
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posted January 27, 2009 07:45 PM

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I certainly can't blame Asheera for complaining.  She can't make a post anywhere on HC or CH without The Death responding often negatively though not always.  It's harassment.
I'd rather say no one can debate about Asheera cause anywhere that post is made you harass me. Some proof? (oh, and recently btw, not just "hey, you see, I can keep on my single example every time!" -- actually, take a RATIO of my posts about it, that would be more fair... cause obviously you are going to cling on the same things. Even if I post 50 stuff a day, 10 of which are about Asheera, and 1 negative criticism, you will cling on that, I mean it's not like the other posts matter do they?)
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Adrius
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posted January 27, 2009 07:46 PM

Cuz I don't feel like it.

I find it funnier to lurk.
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