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Evasion
Evasion


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Groovy!
posted April 09, 2009 12:41 PM

How to break the creature limit

Hello, how could I break the creature limit of 255 creatures? I need to know, because I am a team member for the Lizards' town. Please tell me, because otherwise Lizards' town will replace another town, and I don't want to replace anything..

Do you know how to break the limit? If then, please tell me.
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madshj
madshj


Famous Hero
Minotaur Lord
posted April 09, 2009 12:57 PM

Well as i dont know much of the game mechanics including the creature cap, i would suggest asking the HotA team =)
As they will add 3 new towns without replacing any towns^^

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Evasion
Evasion


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posted April 09, 2009 01:20 PM

But they aren't that active here, and I can't speak russian
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Aleee
Aleee


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posted April 09, 2009 03:12 PM

They are active and they know english. But...
HotA devs said they had overcome this limit, but CoreWog team (who are 3.59 developers) didn't believe them. It seems to be the true but anyway you need to do some (not simple) changes in exe-file and you can hardly find anywhere manual about this.

Btw, 3.59 (as its developers say) will allow us to create our own units and put it easily into the game.

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Evasion
Evasion


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posted April 09, 2009 03:44 PM
Edited by Evasion at 15:45, 09 Apr 2009.

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They are active and they know english.


I know that they're active and know english. But they aren't that active on this forum, <.<

Quote:
But...
HotA devs said they had overcome this limit, but CoreWog team (who are 3.59 developers) didn't believe them. It seems to be the true but anyway you need to do some (not simple) changes in exe-file and you can hardly find anywhere manual about this.


Yes, but I got to break the limit this month, otherwise some towns will be replaced. Do you know how I can change in the .exe file? I need a program, right? If so, please give me a link.

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Btw, 3.59 (as its developers say) will allow us to create our own units and put it easily into the game.


Cool, but I don't have time to wait for 3.59 <_>
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Alustor
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posted April 09, 2009 03:58 PM

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Hello, how could I break the creature limit of 255 creatures? I need to know, because I am a team member for the Lizards' town. Please tell me, because otherwise Lizards' town will replace another town, and I don't want to replace anything..

Do you know how to break the limit? If then, please tell me.



you should ask the vcmi developers or wait for the project to come out

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Aleee
Aleee


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posted April 09, 2009 04:30 PM
Edited by Aleee at 16:32, 09 Apr 2009.

Not active? For instance, Docent Picolan visits HotA topic every week, he also uses ICQ.

Undoubtfully the only way is to ask the biggest developing teams. I'm sure about HotA and CoreWog, dunno about vcmi.


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Evasion
Evasion


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Groovy!
posted April 09, 2009 04:50 PM

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Not active? For instance, Docent Picolan visits HotA topic every week


Every week is inactive in my opinion, but I'm a no lifer so...

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he also uses ICQ.


Don't have ICQ, and I don't want it either.

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Undoubtfully the only way is to ask the biggest developing teams.


Yeah, but they aren't that active here on heroescommunity... At least that's what I think

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I'm sure about HotA and CoreWog


Well, do you know how I could contact them without russian, icq and other chat services?
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Alustor
Alustor


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ooo da :)
posted April 09, 2009 07:50 PM

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Not active? For instance, Docent Picolan visits HotA topic every week, he also uses ICQ.

Undoubtfully the only way is to ask the biggest developing teams. I'm sure about HotA and CoreWog, dunno about vcmi.




vcmi is the only one that you should be sure of because they are re writing the game and the said that one the features will be no creatures limit

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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted April 09, 2009 09:59 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 22:02, 09 Apr 2009.

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one the features will be no creatures limit

I've just checked the code and there's no creature limit already, however we can't make use of it so far.

Afaik SoD map format can support two-byte creatures indexes (up to 32K), but the game itself doesn't manage so high values and it requires complex code changes.

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Supreme Hero
posted April 10, 2009 09:45 AM

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HotA devs said they had overcome this limit, but CoreWog team (who are 3.59 developers) didn't believe them.


So do I. But I don't understand the whole mess with creature limits. We know that is 256. But... number of creatures in H3+WoG is about 150! So there's still cca 100 unused places! Making animation is hard, so don't bother with creature cap, problem is lack of artistic skills!
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Alustor
Alustor


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ooo da :)
posted April 10, 2009 11:32 AM

150????from what i know there are only a few creature slots left my friend.that;s why they are trying to break the creature limit

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Promising
Supreme Hero
posted April 10, 2009 12:11 PM
Edited by Avatar at 12:11, 10 Apr 2009.

OK, my mistake. Now I counted 207 units. One town needs 2*7 levels + 8 level unit + 2 slots for commander = 17 units. So we have free slot for almost 3 towns. For now - we don't have any.
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Trashid
Trashid


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posted April 10, 2009 12:41 PM

But we are planning the Boss upgrades and that will make it 2 times more!
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Ayreon
Ayreon


Famous Hero
posted April 10, 2009 02:51 PM

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But we are planning the Boss upgrades and that will make it 2 times more!


From what I read at your Lizard community, there would be no 8th level creatures, which would free a few slots for your boss upgrades.
If I misunderstood, please tell me

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Trashid
Trashid


Famous Hero
posted April 10, 2009 02:59 PM

Yes, but we are planning Boss upgrade for every unit excluding neutrals. Thats still a lot of creatures.
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evilhydra
evilhydra


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creature maker.
posted April 10, 2009 06:43 PM

ask them in this forum:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ru%7Cen&u=http://forum.df2.ru/index.php%3Fs%3Da195cbfc2224a6b0a22ecb5f656220b4%26showforum%3D15
even translated to english
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Evasion
Evasion


Famous Hero
Groovy!
posted April 10, 2009 06:49 PM

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ask them in this forum:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=ru%7Cen&u=http://forum.df2.ru/index.php%3Fs%3Da195cbfc2224a6b0a22ecb5f656220b4%26showforum%3D15
even translated to english


How could I talk to them? They don't have an English forum. I can't speak russian, and in the middle of a russian conversation I arrive there, and then I randomly speak english?
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 10, 2009 06:57 PM

They have an english section.

HERE
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Evasion
Evasion


Famous Hero
Groovy!
posted April 10, 2009 06:58 PM

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They have an english section.

HERE


Cool, thanks alot Going to ask there
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