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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: New Fortress
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Instants
Instants


Adventuring Hero
of adventuring
posted April 15, 2009 09:50 PM

New Fortress

Back in HoMM III, the fortress contained Lizardmen and gnolls. Now in HoMM V, It's all dwarves and magma dragons. If the HoMM III fortress was reintroduced, what would it be called, and What new units should be added?

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VokialBG
VokialBG


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posted April 15, 2009 10:06 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 22:06, 15 Apr 2009.

Hi there,

This thread belonging to the Altar of Wishes forum .
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Arcax
Arcax


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Its quite hot inside...
posted April 15, 2009 11:23 PM

Another Dwarf hater... Create a mod or send a letter to Nival so they will maybe edit it for you... or face the fact that the name doesnt oblige to anything. Its just a name. And HoMM5 Fortress is totally different faction in terms of racial affiliation. HoMM will have yours Lizardmen, be patient.

But they wont replace dwarfs...I hope...
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Adrius
Adrius


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posted April 15, 2009 11:35 PM

Huh? I detect no dwarf-hate in Instants' post...
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Arcax
Arcax


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Its quite hot inside...
posted April 15, 2009 11:42 PM
Edited by Arcax at 23:43, 15 Apr 2009.

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Back in HoMM III, the fortress contained mighty Lizardmen and interesting gnolls. Now in HoMM V, It's all puny dwarves and boring magma dragons. If the HoMM III fortress was reintroduced, what would it be called, and What new units should be added?


Huh ? Ok maybe I'm just overreacting...Sorry
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lucky_dwarf
lucky_dwarf


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posted April 16, 2009 02:11 AM

when you mess with dwarves... you mess with the midget ninja

but still i liked lizards and gnols i think they are exceptionally creative

maybe the faction "Fallen Fortress" would sound better
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Evasion
Evasion


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posted April 16, 2009 07:34 AM

Rename Dwarf Faction into Keep and create the fortress faction?
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lucky_dwarf
lucky_dwarf


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posted April 16, 2009 02:14 PM

keep works good but fallen fortress is better 4 lizards
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tyraxor
tyraxor


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Ruler of the burning Desert
posted April 16, 2009 07:51 PM

Maybe a name with 'Swamp' in it?
And as creatures something like 'Gnoll slingerers' or 'Lizardspearmans' and Chariots pulled by Gorgons.
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Elvin
Elvin


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posted April 16, 2009 07:58 PM

Aanyways as Vokial said that's for altar of wishes.

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Instants
Instants


Adventuring Hero
of adventuring
posted April 16, 2009 09:47 PM

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Maybe a name with 'Swamp' in it?



IDK, Swamp tends to have a negative annotation to it, and I doubt ubi would make a castle to have people not play it.

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MattII
MattII


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posted April 16, 2009 10:19 PM
Edited by MattII at 22:40, 16 Apr 2009.

Back in H3 Sylvan was called Rampart (meaning an embankment built for defensive purposes), which would, I feel, be a much better name for a jungle/swamp faction. I also disagree with putting the Gnolls back in there, I mean they're half hyena (Spotted usually, but sometimes one of the other subspecies, and I've seen the occasional half Painted Wolf) for heaven's sake, they don't belong in a swamp any more than an orc does.

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stankelbenet
stankelbenet


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bringer of nostalgia & darknes
posted April 16, 2009 10:43 PM

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I also disagree with putting the Gnolls back in there, I mean they're half hyena (Spotted usually, but sometimes one of the other subspecies, and I've seen the occasional half Painted Wolf) for heaven's sake, they don't belong in a swamp any more than an orc does.

nevertheless they did fit in there. I mean, HOMM doesn't need to follow some mainstream fantasy idea. The original and special universes are mostly the best.

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MattII
MattII


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posted April 17, 2009 12:13 AM

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nevertheless they did fit in there. I mean, HOMM doesn't need to follow some mainstream fantasy idea. The original and special universes are mostly the best.
So you're advocating a return of the dwarves to Sylvan, because that's where they spent H1-3, besides, you've seen how they do it in H5, one major 'race' to a town, and the lizardmen represent the major race here. On top of that, everything else in the town is scaly rather than furry, making the gnoll stick out like a sore thumb.

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lucky_dwarf
lucky_dwarf


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posted April 17, 2009 12:18 AM

i agree if fallen fortress becomes the new name. Then it will serve the purpose for being able to build the fortifications.

and as for gnoll slingers i like the idea better that lizard bowmen.
but lizzards should stay in.

hmmm i thought i remember a piece of a campaign in h3 where a soldier tries to ride the mighty gorgon and the woman in charge recalls it something like "One of the men had tried to ride the mighty gorgon"
but i have not played it in a long time

although gorgon chariots do sound cool
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MattII
MattII


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posted April 17, 2009 01:24 AM

The Gorgon is another point of contention. Gorgons were traditionally similar to Medusa (Medusa was in fact one of the Gorgon sisters), not the giant bulls of D&D (which are similar to the Khalkotauroi or Catoblepas of Greek mythology). Similar actions were taken with the Lamia and Basilisk, and a little with the Kobold.

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lucky_dwarf
lucky_dwarf


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posted April 17, 2009 01:39 AM

that is what i thought but ignored it

anyway i thought they had some sort of honor as to who rode them
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stankelbenet
stankelbenet


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posted April 17, 2009 11:31 AM

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So you're advocating a return of the dwarves to Sylvan, because that's where they spent H1-3, besides, you've seen how they do it in H5, one major 'race' to a town, and the lizardmen represent the major race here. On top of that, everything else in the town is scaly rather than furry, making the gnoll stick out like a sore thumb.

yes i am. I surely think dwarves would do better as a minor faction. I actually don't think major factions(besides humans) should exist. No race for any faction. I would like to see "the old fortress" to become just as gnollish as lizardish.

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lucky_dwarf
lucky_dwarf


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posted April 17, 2009 01:58 PM

maybe if you made the gnolls and lizard men alternate upgrades you could have a bit of both in your army like make it a split faction.

a third is inhabited by gnolls
a third is inhabited by lizzards
a third is inhabited by swamp creatures(dragon fly, basilisk etc.)
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martin_tufi
martin_tufi


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posted April 17, 2009 05:50 PM

pass for my thread "your faction" this is for lizards

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