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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Creeping challenge!
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Tastes like chicken
posted April 27, 2009 04:31 PM
Edited by Elvin at 16:36, 27 Apr 2009.

I have been unsuccessful in doing it fast. First time I creeped most of my area week 2 including pack of unicorns that guarded chests plus ring of broken will and vindicators that guarded the footmen dwelling - only left out sulfur mine(arcanes) and mercenary camp(sisters). Week 3 I went halfway to town to chain units with my main and cleared some of the area behind the battle griffins where the arena and crystal of revelation was. That took a few days so I reached phoenixes at lvl 12 week 4 day 1. To find that the AI had already defeated them.. I could defeat the AI if I chained the cavaliers from my town but not with my marksmen, footmen and peasant fodder. So I reload to get there one day earlier. Turns out I could not take the phoenixes last day of week 3 and that because the game failed to give me last stand for 4 consecutive times. And then I check the skillwheel and see that it doesn't require evasion like EVERY DAMN OTHER FACTION!! Let that be a lesson to anyone else that tries..

At least I know I would have won with it, phoenixes were several and I could kill 2 at a time. And I have some good creeping replays. The way I see it crossbowmen would have helped me more in creeping but I would have missed the unicorns that were hell to defeat even with marksmen.

Replays.

Assuming I had last stand late week 3 is possible and I didn't even get light. Skills were leadership(alas no divine guidance/empathy), defense, adv luck, adv enlightenment and basic logistics that I had from my first level.

Edit: I am in luck, I had a save in middle week 2. Maybe I can do it if the level ups don't betray me
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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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Unicorn
posted April 27, 2009 08:27 PM

Oh and if you remember please post if that mod is required to view the replays.  Everyone knows how to look at the replays right?

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Zenithale
Zenithale


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Zen Mind
posted April 27, 2009 08:34 PM
Edited by Zenithale at 20:53, 27 Apr 2009.

I'm very lucky: start with Dougal and Grawl. Level-ups were perfects (Last Stand day 14). I attack and kill 8 Phoenixs week 3 day 2.
Now I will get the Armor of the forgotten hero (Rakshassa).




REPLAYS of the first part. (With New Arena MOD)
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mgph
mgph

Tavern Dweller
posted April 28, 2009 02:52 PM

@Zenithale

wow....the defending champion did it again !!! really good at splitting units and luring enemy creeps into your traps. thanks alot for showing me how-to. Hmm I was really amazed at Phoenix's pathetic damage with Expert Defense, 2 Phoenix killed only 1 peasant bahhh...never thought such reducing melee damage is great skill for Might-vs-Might

@Elvin

maybe luck was not on your side I bet you can do easily dude....try again soon and let me learn from you too

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Zenithale
Zenithale


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Zen Mind
posted April 28, 2009 03:01 PM

Quote:
Hmm I was really amazed at Phoenix's pathetic damage with Expert Defense, 2 Phoenix killed only 1 peasant bahhh...never thought such reducing melee damage is great skill for Might-vs-Might

Last Stand skill!
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mgph
mgph

Tavern Dweller
posted April 28, 2009 04:23 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Hmm I was really amazed at Phoenix's pathetic damage with Expert Defense, 2 Phoenix killed only 1 peasant bahhh...never thought such reducing melee damage is great skill for Might-vs-Might

Last Stand skill!


hmm...maybe lagging within replay made me thought wrong but looking at damage on Squire....expert Defense is still awesome

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Elvin
Elvin


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Tastes like chicken
posted April 28, 2009 04:33 PM

There is not much point to try again. You saw I how tackled neutrals, it would be one of the same.
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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ghost of the past
posted April 29, 2009 04:43 AM

Quote:
I attack and kill 8 Phoenixs week 3 day 2.
Dammit, again I missed a few steps to get you hehe. I defeated them week 3 day 3:



final battle

Most of my Marksmen have survived too, so I suppose fighting the Necro wouldn't be too hard.
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Zenithale
Zenithale


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Zen Mind
posted April 29, 2009 05:38 PM

Quote:
Most of my Marksmen have survived too, so I suppose fighting the Necro wouldn't be too hard.

With only your marksmen it will be hard, IMO, good luck .

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I have finished my game. End week 4 day3.


Here the Replays-part2. Note my first battle versus Orson was day 22, not 21.

Huh if you remember, there was an old topic on UBI forum (in heroic with Sylan in Red side).
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Vlaad
Vlaad


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ghost of the past
posted April 29, 2009 06:55 PM
Edited by Vlaad at 22:36, 29 Apr 2009.

Great job, Z.
Quote:
Quote:
Most of my Marksmen have survived too, so I suppose fighting the Necro wouldn't be too hard.

With only your marksmen it will be hard, IMO, good luck .
Unfortunately you're right. It's 50+ Crossbowmen actually, but the Red hasn't cleared his part of the map. I was able to beat most of the tier 6 and 7 guards (even managed to get Tome of Light) but too few troops stayed alive.
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sq79
sq79


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posted May 01, 2009 05:52 AM
Edited by sq79 at 18:40, 01 May 2009.

Here's a break in hourglass, though i think most wouldn't like to play this map, but its the most played, most abused map so far in toh and creeping was already pushed to the limits no matter how strong the heroes are, the neutral creatures gets stronger.

Week 3 day 1 !!



Here's the breaking replay
replay

Zenithale, or anyone free to give it a try ?
The challenge is to break the garrison in the middle of the map with acceptable or zero losses

Hero/ player position/ can be anyone you choose, mode is in "HARD"
I choose ossir for this instance since he has the highest chance. I think only sylvan and necro and orcs (urgat) has a chance of breaking this early.
This will not be just about creeping, its also on economic and tactical planning all combined, if you broke somewhere during week3, you would know what I mean

I would advise if the neutrals at the monolith is too strong like blackies or emeralds, to restart the game.

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Zenithale
Zenithale


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Zen Mind
posted May 01, 2009 03:04 PM

I will maybe try. In Normal, Hard or Heroic?
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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted May 01, 2009 03:57 PM

Quote:
I will maybe try. In Normal, Hard or Heroic?


It is in hard mode , take note of monolith in front of town, if its too hard to take down, better to restart.

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted May 01, 2009 05:39 PM

I'm phoenixreborn and I approve this challenge.

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sq79
sq79


Famous Hero
posted May 01, 2009 06:26 PM

Quote:
I'm phoenixreborn and I approve this challenge.


Thank you, i hope it will be fun

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Elvin
Elvin


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Tastes like chicken
posted May 01, 2009 07:51 PM

I think I'll try one with Ossir if the challenge is on. You may want to edit the masterpost if you want specific rules.
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Destro23
Destro23


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Keeper of GrongGrong
posted May 02, 2009 02:11 AM

I'll giv a try, I have broken late week 3 with necro, and mid week 4 with Inferno.. but that was in HoF.. I'll give it a shot for sure.

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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Unicorn
posted May 02, 2009 04:46 AM

This one is open.  Use the faction and hero you prefer on Hourglass.

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ebbafan
ebbafan


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Famous Hero
posted May 02, 2009 05:17 PM

@phoenixreborn: i think that this whole multiple attempts at creeping idea is instructive, and definitely a requirement to get good at rushing, but i actually enjoy this competition more if the map is not that well known, and things are more randomized and only one attempt is given, no second chances.

i mean there is probably no way i would be able to match sq79's creeping in hourglass because he probably knows it like his own backyard

but just yesterday i was playing this german map from maps4heroes
called anwyl? (1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 2) or something like that and boy was it challenging! creeping was intensively hard on heroic, and the computer ai gave me a severe drubbing.

ultimately i was the last survivor against the computer allies, but finally lost after several epic battles.

i think a map like this would actually be more fun to play; it definitely kept my pulse pounding and there was actually the feeling that i might lose at any time rather than being comfortably ahead. much more exciting than the continuous and tedious repetitive creeping exhibitions that i have seen...

so i hope you will take a look at this map (anwyl?) and perhaps post a challenge to just win the darn thing lol!

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


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Unicorn
posted May 02, 2009 05:25 PM

I'll look into it.  It may take me a little time.

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