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Arcax
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posted July 02, 2009 02:04 PM

"Drivers" diary

From my early days I always have been dreaming about driving by myself to school or to have some fun with friends. To take by car my tired parents from work or just help my grand-parents who are sick to do for them their shopping list... Sounds stupid I know...

1st time - After passing the theory exam I headed to the maneuver field where the driving part of exam begins.I was totally ate by stress. I even forgot to look at the engine and to put on safety belts... I knew that he wont let pass me from the beginning of exam. I think to myslef "Oh well, next time I will pass for sure"
Normally I would wait for the exam a month but due to important exams at school I delayed it by 5 months...I forgot how to drive a car... So it was quite obvious that at the

2nd time - I'll fail. Normally the exam last for 25-40 minutes. Mine lasted 6. I crossed the line when doing one maneveur and "Sorry Mr. Alexander I have to interrupt your exam. Good luck next time."
Waiting 6 months for stepping into the car and after 6 mins being kicked out.

If I wont pass the next one Ill have to do a special course to proof that I can drive a car effectively. It sucks since I'll be waiting for a hell of time and time will be quite expensive.

If youre still waiting for your exam remember-be well prepared, exercise a lot to be confident with your skills but not too much since it may piss off your examinator. They can be really rude whackos sometimes interested only to put a pressure on you and earn some money on you. Stress and him are yours worst enemies
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posted July 02, 2009 02:27 PM

My exam looked as follows:
After leaving the theoretical part I was picked up by her and driven to the manuver grounds. Along the way I said something like
"Well, they all got as scared at the drivers lessons that we'll be examined by monsters not human beings but they're exxagerating right?"
Don't remember her response but it wasn't anything negative (uff)
engine/light check, first start, all went fine then the up-hill start. First try - handbrake got stuck
Second try - handbrake still stuck, engine went off
Third try - oh man was I stressed - First unblocked the handbrake, then started and finally out on the road.

There I made every possible mistake exactly once (2 of the same - fail) including 'uncultural behaviour to pedesterians' because I passed 3 meters behind them while getting off the crossroads but then salvation came - on a staright part a woman was trying to tresspass rigth after I would pass by her (she was one foot on the road). But I stopped before her, waved my hand for her to go and went ahead. Got stuck on a crossroad for 5 minutes and then she told me to go back.
What? But I'm only 20 minutes on the road! Well, seems that I failed, no wonder, only 30% pass on first try.
I had no idea that in reality 45 minutes passed and she gave me a passing note at the end. I couldn't believe my luck
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posted July 02, 2009 02:45 PM

Taking my driver's lesson at the moment also.

Rules in Denmark are pretty strict, you have to do a lot of theory and on road lessons (probably not a bad thing).

Had my first lesson on road last week, after maneuver field, and I was scared like hell ... I had to drive in real traffic, and I hardly knew how to start the car from holding position.

Fortunately, I did ok for first lesson, so will have my second lesson on road tomorrow.
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posted July 02, 2009 02:54 PM
Edited by Azagal at 14:56, 02 Jul 2009.

Woaw what's up with all the hardship in here oO?
My driving exam was a walk in the park. Ok the stereotype that japanese people take nit-picking to a whole new dimension and follow rules vigorously is probably based on the observation of japanese driving instructors. DAMN oO. But once you get the charm working, complement their good english (really not so good be it), talk a bit about your background and how much you love japan, blablabla. and they ease up quite easily^^. I pretty much befriended almost all of my instructors (you have like 16) except the unbreakable older ones... still get invitations to their parties^^ (one is a pretty good DJ).
But yeah anyways about the exam:
In Japan you have 2 exams one to determine wether you're ready to drive on the road and then the final exam which is held on the road.
Oh and while you drive you always have another student watching you during the exam^^. I had the biggest nerd-whacko geek who couldn't tell the difference between the lever that starts your windowswipers and your "right-left" signals. Whenever he wanted to make a curve, change lane, whatever you need those signals for he would a-l-w-a-y-s turn on the swipers xD. But yeah about my exam...
It was a piece of cake. You do all that standard stuff, parking reverse, parking in a thight spot, "S" curves,"L" curves, blablabla and I only got 75 points (you need 70 to pass) because I did everything too fast... xD. Not because I was nervous I was simply not being a slug in slowmotion like they'd wanted me to be.

Anyways the second exam was 99 out of 100 xD. Well anything less would have been very disappointing since they only observe how you're driving on the road and your map reading skills. So I was shown two spots on a map and could choose whatever route I desired lol. Well in the end I only had to go straight and turn left after 4 traffic lights. And I managed to do so without crashing into a car or scaring old ladies so I passed.

My exams were hillariously easy. But then again I don't have the kind of instructors you guys have if I'd have some meaner guy like in arcax case I guess I'd have to adjust.

But seriously if you drive all you've got to do is stay relaxed. The tenser you get the worse your driving gets.
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posted July 02, 2009 02:56 PM
Edited by VokialBG at 15:04, 02 Jul 2009.

I passed my exams in the first try.

After you get the driving licence you'll never follow the rules at the a traffic ordinance (the theory or whatever it's called there). It's just for the exam, also after you get it, don't think that you are the greatest driver on the world, you have still much to learn...

My instructor was like Buruce Lee of the drivers On my first lesson we were outside the town (of course) and the road was parallel to the railway line, guess what? There was a train, and he told me to drive faster than it... with no arms

Maybe that why I passed at the first try
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Azagal
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posted July 02, 2009 03:01 PM

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don't think that you are the greatest driver on the world, you have still much to learn...

how very true. You don't really learn driving while in the driving school, once you have your license you learn how to really drive.

But I don't agree with what you're saying about "forgetting" the rules I mean most are pretty basic to your safety aswell as others. But then again I don't know how they drive in Bulgaria^^.
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posted July 02, 2009 08:56 PM

Won't get my license til next year, but at least i can drive
Theory classes was boring, as most theory classes was.
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Arcax
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posted July 02, 2009 10:23 PM

Veco,Vokial and Azagal are from today on my death list. Have a nice day.

I thought in Denmark the main mean of transport is bike yet you still want to get it Alcibiades ?

Maybe its sth wrong me with me. I just think the driving license is sth superb imortant in my life and only the coolest are able to get it meh -_-

How does the maneveut phase looks in Bulgaria and Japan ? We have lights/mask at the beginning then starting the engine. After that you have to make the arc driving maneuver((forward->turning right into marked field then going back)I screwed it T_T) after that starting the car when stopping on a hill and if you manage to complete them you can have the city part.

@del_diablo Youre driving without DL ? ._.
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posted July 02, 2009 10:35 PM

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I thought in Denmark the main mean of transport is bike yet you still want to get it Alcibiades ?


Well, you can only get so far on your bike. XD

But yes, I could have taken it 10 years ago, but have managed with my bike til now. Cars are rediculously expensive here anyway.
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posted July 02, 2009 10:41 PM

I wonder why they still haven't made cars automatic, the wheel just sensory input (not actually moving the wheels, but acting as input to a motor or something), and brakes easier to handle (like doing it automatically at a press, instead of worrying about acceleration and whatever). Also signalling can be done automatically.

So why haven't they?
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posted July 02, 2009 10:43 PM
Edited by Arcax at 22:58, 02 Jul 2009.

Well at least you're fit and have some preserved money so you cant tell they were ten wasted years. And it was a really nice touch to see all those bikers on streets when I visited Odense two years ago. Cars everywhere arent a marvelous sight.
Yet I still wont give up on my dream of getting this small piece of laminated plastic

I think there are automatic cars made already. At least to some extent. They help you with parking, they prevent from driving into obstacles etc.
Are there such cars ?

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posted July 02, 2009 10:47 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 22:47, 02 Jul 2009.

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I wonder why they still haven't made cars automatic, the wheel just sensory input (not actually moving the wheels, but acting as input to a motor or something), and brakes easier to handle (like doing it automatically at a press, instead of worrying about acceleration and whatever). Also signalling can be done automatically.

So why haven't they?


Because that would be lame.

Plus simplifying everything like that would probably cause more problems than solutions given the weird stuff that can happen on the road. Computers can't improvise to the level humans can.

@arcax: yea, they're producing cars that can parallel park and such, though you can switch it to manual if you want.

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posted July 02, 2009 10:49 PM

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Because that would be lame.
People used to say that having multiple cores on a single CPU chip is also lame compared to "big workstation motherboards" having 2 physical chips.
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Plus simplifying everything like that would probably cause more problems than solutions given the weird stuff that can happen on the road. Computers can't improvise to the level humans can.
Actually it would guarantee a lot of 'correct' things that most people forget, especially in signalling. Also, you will need far less effort and far simpler to control the car with sensory buttons or a sensor pad than with a wheel, especially at high speeds (where accidents happen anyway). Same with breaks.
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posted July 02, 2009 10:53 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 23:10, 02 Jul 2009.

Damn driver's tests. I failed the first time for the dumbest reason: I ran a red light But it's not as bad as it sounds. I was turning right at a red light (which you're allowed to do if it's clear), but I learned that you still need to come to a full stop as though it's a stop sign , except I just slowed down and then turned. I did everything else fine, but that's an automatic fail .

I came back to the test the 2nd time, wiser.

I actually ran red lights like that for 4 years until a cop finally ticketed me several years ago, and now that I'm paranoid of getting ticketed, I stop.
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posted July 02, 2009 11:01 PM
Edited by blizzardboy at 23:14, 02 Jul 2009.

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People used to say that having multiple cores on a single CPU chip is also lame compared to "big workstation motherboards" having 2 physical chips.


One is sensible. The other isn't; yet.

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Actually it would guarantee a lot of 'correct' things that most people forget, especially in signalling. Also, you will need far less effort and far simpler to control the car with sensory buttons or a sensor pad than with a wheel, especially at high speeds (where accidents happen anyway). Same with breaks.


I think you're making this up as you go, because modern car wheels are ridiculously easy to handle. And what do you mean 'most people forget'? I very rarely see people forget to do those things properly.

You would need to digitally map the highways and then link them up with the cars (sort of like GPS) in order to coordinate when the turn signal should and shouldn't come on. There are various things that involve turning that don't actually involve turning onto a different road, and having the turn signal come on during those occasions could confuse people and cause problems. So it's not simply a matter of having the turn signal trigger whenever you're about to turn the car.

And wrecks don't happen as often at high speeds (though the ones that do happen, you hear about more, because they're obviously often fatal). Most of the accidents happen in congested areas, not smooth and easy straight stretches of road where you can go fast.
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posted July 02, 2009 11:15 PM

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I think you're making this up as you go, because modern car wheels are ridiculously easy to handle.
At high speeds?
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You would need to digitally map the highways and then link them up with the cars (sort of like GPS) in order to coordinate when the turn signal should and shouldn't come on. There are various things that involve turning that don't actually involve turning onto a different road, and having the turn signal come on during those occasions could confuse people and cause problems. So it's not simply a matter of having the turn signal trigger whenever you turn the car.
No, of course you would still need to use it. That's where the pad sensor comes in (which you touch). However I was talking mainly about stopping the signal once you turned -- you don't need GPS for that, the car only needs to measure the way it turned (the signals from the "wheel") and stop it after the right moment automatically.

Also note, such design would be totally jamless also.
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posted July 02, 2009 11:32 PM
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No, of course you would still need to use it. That's where the pad sensor comes in (which you touch). However I was talking mainly about stopping the signal once you turned -- you don't need GPS for that, the car only needs to measure the way it turned (the signals from the "wheel") and stop it after the right moment automatically.


Well yeah, that makes sense. Cars have had that for awhile. My 1997 had that.

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Also note, such design would be totally jamless also.


Well, electronics aren't devoid of their own problems.

As time goes on newer things will get incorporated. It's not just a matter of being able to do something, it's a matter of being able to do something without it being too much cost and effort. People can build energy-pulse weapons just like in futuristic movies, but they use up so much power that there's no sensible reason to use them.
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posted July 03, 2009 02:38 AM

failed the exam twice so far.

the 1st time my mistakes were :
-failed a maneuver
-drove too slowly at one point (wanted to be sure to follow the right direction)
-was too much on the right side of the road (touching the white lines (not even crossing them) = mistake)

the 2nd time :
-went above the speed limit by 10 km/h for a few seconds (I thought I entered a highway, since it has all the characteristics of a highway, but it was a normal road, so the speed limit was 90, not 110)
-drove too fast in a serie of dangerous curves (well, I was under the speed limit and handled it well, but the examinator got scared)

but seriously, in France, they can decide you failed for any reason. a friend failed because he slightly slowed down in traffic circle (it's not even a mistake actually, but the examinator probably didn't like his face)

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posted July 03, 2009 02:41 AM

I passed the written test the first time, but I had to take the driving test twice. The first time, I completely failed at backing up in a straight line, and I waited too long to turn left (there were cars in the opposite lane, but apparently they were far away enough for me to still turn).
Also, my vision is just barely good enough to drive.
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posted July 03, 2009 02:51 AM

Im am so not going to a stupid drivers school. Instead my mum will teach me when im 16-18.

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