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xerdux
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posted July 28, 2009 04:18 AM

Is a Zombie Virus Possible?

You read the topic. Try to not see it in a sci-fi way.

Personally, I think something similar to a Zombie virus might be possible. Obviously, there wouldnt be any Undead stuff. Rather, the "Zombie" would die of starvation in the end.

How knows. It might be a natural evoloution from Rabies. Causing people to be consumed in some kind of rage.

Or it might be a biological weapon. I remember the gay bomb a while ago
And yes, I did rewatch 28 days and 28 weeks just after posting this thread. Also I just love the theme song, In the House In a Heartbeat. Youtube it. Its amazing.
I love those movies. There isnt a happy ending either. Im a big fan of the Zombie movies.

But try to not see the potential virus as some kind of sci-fi zombie stuff. More like some kind of Rage virus.
If anything would could kill the entire human population (except from some kind of huge meteor), I think it would be some kind of super deadly mass-spreading disease.

Im expecting something far worse then the Swine flu in the upcomming 100 years.

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Elodin
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posted July 28, 2009 05:27 AM

Zombie ants.

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I could see some sort of engineered virus feeding on a human brain having a similar effect.

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Mytical
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posted July 28, 2009 08:37 AM

The typical Zombie outbreak scenario is not very feasible.  Maybe once, but not now.  Put a couple of 'living' people in tanks, and what are the zombies gonna do?  Get squashed that is what, or blown up.

There are also near impenatrable underground bunkers, flamethrowers, explosives, etc.  Don't care how much pain you don't feel if your head, legs, arms, and torso is in five different areas (IF any of the above is left at all).  With biohazard suits (in case it goes airborne) and such, it would be a very short lived Zombie invasion.  Sure it might get bad for awhile, with the military reluctant to intervene, but only for awhile.
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posted July 28, 2009 09:12 AM

Try to see [REC] when you have the chance xerox. It's like 28 days later mixed with the storytelling of cloverfield.

Also an article for comedy purposes.

Anyway, I'm not sure it actually takes an advanced virus to reprogram the brain and be so advanced, but, for the sake of argument, let's say it's possible. I doubt it would be possible to contain it at all.

Let's say we have our fas zombies whose brains are generally put into overdrive, no sense of self-preservation and capable of shurt bursts of inhuman strength and speed. How do you stop that? This is the most frequently used scenario: People go for shelter, people find shelter after a few minutes of looking (if it's any longer you're food) and here comes the tricky part: if even one of the is bitten, you'll have shelter full of zombies in a few minutes. The army would be a bit busy with swarming fugitives and/ or infected people that may or may not be relatives. Nukes would only be effective, should they kill everyone and that won't help you, now will it? Tanks are relatively safe, but either zombies are hogging the view or there will be points when someone has to leave the tank.

Flamethrowers are effective weapons and automatic weapons or weapons with a powerful kick as well, but most military weapons will become ineffectual once said refugees and ther infected ones they carry along are trying to get in. Also, should a comrade become infected, do you think they would be so quick to shoot him? Do you think someone'd be quick to shoot their grandmother? you see, in these situations, panick is the killer and whenever there's panick, human flaws are set into motion as well. few people are emotionless detached killers. maybe some humans would be willing to preserve as many zombies as possible, because, by god, there may actually be a cure!

The crux of the matter is as following: will they be able to contain all human life in one place with no exceptions whatsoever. If it's a city you'll have to occupy, your chances are slim, but if you cant to see why even keeping a building occupied is hard, then I advise you to watch [rec]

And even in [rec] the government knew what was going on! I don't know about you, but currently my government is not even capable of taking decisions, let alone besiege an entire city.
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Elvin
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posted July 28, 2009 09:15 AM

Sure there is, haven't you ever been to a net cafe?
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Mytical
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posted July 28, 2009 09:27 AM

I disagree .  As I said, there are biohazard suits, and yes for awhile there will be 'panic'.  It might spread pretty far, but once an Organized Offensive begins, it would be all over for the 'zombies'.  If the virus started and is in one area, all it takes is one person with enough authority to reach a military bunker.  Once that happens, atomic bomb, virus stopped.  Since it would be a case of 'stop it or everybody dies' I seriously doubt they would hesitate for any long length of time.

As for not wanting to kill 'grandma', I think you are mistaken.  In many wars soldiers were forced to kill kids, and grandma's, and everything in between.  They can and WILL do it.  Don't forget that along with tanks, flamethrowers, etc there is explosives (lots of zombies dead at once) and such also.  The big thing about Zombies is their numbers.  Once numbers are eliminated, they become less and less of a threat.
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angelito
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posted July 28, 2009 11:18 AM

Have you ever seen a braindead human walking around AFTER you have shut down your tv?

There's your answer....
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Doomforge
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posted July 28, 2009 11:38 AM

Zombies, omg!




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no, it can't happen. What's dead is dead. Once the brain gets damaged to a point where it can't work due to lack of air, it won't work. Period.

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posted July 28, 2009 02:52 PM

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xerdux
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posted July 28, 2009 03:14 PM

I said in my first post that if there would be something similar to a Zombie virus outbreak, I doubt they would be undead xD

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posted July 28, 2009 03:15 PM

Quote:
Have you ever seen a braindead human walking around AFTER you have shut down your tv?

There's your answer....


Err, yes.
If you ever saw Dawn of the Dead you may notice that when the Zombies enter the mall, it's difficult to identify them as "Zombies". It's not without a reason that "Zombie" has found its way into contemporary language, with a certain definition. Watching some people interact with their cellphone nowadays, and it's no happenstance that in Stephen King's novel "Cell", a contemporary take on Zombies, the plague is spread via cellphone...

Which is the modern alternative. Romero introduced the virus as an element and as a possible cause for metamorphosing humans into something else - a disease or plague.
King does the same, not with virusses and diseases, but with electromagnetic impulses, changing the hardwired coding of our brain...


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posted July 28, 2009 03:37 PM

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Err, yes.
If you ever saw Dawn of the Dead...
I said:..after you shut down your tv

Quote:
...it's difficult to identify them as "Zombies".
Just shoot them in the chest. If they continue walking, they are zombies
If not....colleteral damage

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posted July 28, 2009 03:59 PM

Ya, it is already done and it's called "World of Warcraft".
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posted July 28, 2009 05:09 PM

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no, it can't happen. What's dead is dead. Once the brain gets damaged to a point where it can't work due to lack of air, it won't work. Period.
Alright for all skeptics. What about nanobots that keep your body cells alive, but under their control? If the "creator" programmed them to be zombies, they will render you a zombie, even if you're dead.

I admit this requires a huge understanding of the human body, but it isn't impossible.
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posted July 28, 2009 06:09 PM

Are nanobots able to give "orders" like brain cells? To stimulate your feet muscles in an order so a dead body is able to move at all?

I ask because my knowledge refering to nano-technology is a bit rusty... (or maybe not present at all to keep it more straight )
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Doomforge
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posted July 28, 2009 06:11 PM

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Alright for all skeptics. What about nanobots that keep your body cells alive, but under their control? If the "creator" programmed them to be zombies, they will render you a zombie, even if you're dead.

I admit this requires a huge understanding of the human body, but it isn't impossible.


We don't have any nanobots yet, and we can't go into science fiction in a serious discussion

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posted July 28, 2009 06:12 PM

Regardless of the answer to angelito's question (I think eventually it will be possible) that's more of an android or something of the sort than a zombie because it's controlled by electronic devices.
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TheDeath
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posted July 28, 2009 06:17 PM

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Are nanobots able to give "orders" like brain cells? To stimulate your feet muscles in an order so a dead body is able to move at all?

I ask because my knowledge refering to nano-technology is a bit rusty... (or maybe not present at all to keep it more straight )
Not necessarily, your cells can already be considered "nanobots" of sorts. Nanobots are just like normal robots, except that they are well nanoscale. A robot can assemble stuff, can move around let's say transistors (the big ones, not the integrated circuits). Assuming those 'transistors' are the cells, they can manipulate your cells.

If we assume that the human body is solely made of cells and nothing else, then nanobots can take complete control (excluding let's say "soul" or stuff like that). It isn't limited to human body, they can control anything with enough time/resources and of course, enough knowledge of the human body (almost perfect!).

This is an example analogy (hope you don't hate it). Suppose there are nanobots between your retina and your visual cortex part of brain. These nanobots redshift the signals a tiny bit. What will you see? You'll see everything a bit more towards the red spectrum (with red probably becoming infrared, hence invisible to you).

Now what if said nanobots actually controlled the entire brain signals?
Mind control.
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Doomforge
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posted July 28, 2009 06:22 PM

Yeah but as Geny said, it's not a Zombie.

A Zombie is something that died yet still lives

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posted July 28, 2009 06:25 PM

Those nanobots can "preserve" your body cells when it's dead too.
Though probably require sunlight or energy or something. Therefore zombies get dead at night, which is kinda the opposite of "real zombies"
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