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Towerlord
Promising
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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted December 11, 2009 03:28 PM |
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After Chaos Cup(win) you fight winners of both groups from tournament 5 games each.
You gain x points from those games.
The finalists also have points from quarter finals and points from semifinals(5 games each).
The sum of those points is = y1 for finalist 1 and y2 for finalist 2.
A score board is made with x, y1, y2, and the first two places go into the final.
Atm Mohicanin already has 3 points, if Natalka doesn't play he'll have 4 points. If he qualifies to final , he'll get at least 3 other points.
So y1 would be 7  , that's why you are co-interested by the results of quarters. Not sure what happens in case of point equality( x = y1 = 7), but I think the one from Chaos Cup leaves the tournament.
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mohikanin
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 11, 2009 03:37 PM |
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Quote:
My favorite is Jinxer now, can I help him offline like you top players helped mohikanin?
Joke?
I though Nat, that you can loose with style but probably you can't. Maybe I had a lot of luck, morale and everything else. If here aren't good players what are you doing here? Why you are talking about this 'stupid' map now? After lost games? Why not earlier? You can't normally say "thanks for the game"? Probably I did not deserve for it - then you can tell me it by msn.
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Michi69
Hired Hero
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posted December 11, 2009 04:08 PM |
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Edited by Michi69 at 16:15, 11 Dec 2009.
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Mohikanin mentioned an important issue. If you can't lose without whining, you won't be called as a "top-player". So with all respect to your heroes-skills natalka, unless you change your attitude to this game, nobody can describe you as a hero, because you're acting like a child right now.
It's true that the map isn't well balanced. It's true luck does really matter here. But please take into consideration that the whole heroes 5 game isn't really balanced. If you wanna play a balanced game, then fine - I invite you to play chess :]
That's why you play in the quarters best of 5 games - to eliminate the factor of luck. If you can't cope with your opponent playing with him 4 games and losing 3 of them - that means you lack skills, not luck.
Cheers
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 11, 2009 04:50 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 16:51, 11 Dec 2009.
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@Nat
Ah where is dagoth, I bet he'd love your unbridled passion You should lose more often.
To be fair Nat is amongst the best players here as is clearly reflected on her score. But saying there are no good players here, now that is a bit of stretch. I'd have loved Sq joining but he wasn't sure if he'd have the time and preferred not to join and have to quit later. Zilo, anyone would have done the same in his place. About arena not sure what your deal is, you were already experienced and me a noob at the time Posting any of those games would be pointless since there was nothing interesting to see.
Either way nothing of the above matters because you are just pissed. I knew you well enough to expect that fiery post which is why I don't really mind You are pissy and that's that. Who knows one day you may learn to lose with dignity but that is not my business either. Thank you for joining.
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Lepastur
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The Red Taskmaster
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posted December 11, 2009 08:32 PM |
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Amen, Elvin and Michi, specially the last one  It's always so sad to see this sort of things from a player... 
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 12, 2009 01:25 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 13:06, 12 Dec 2009.
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CHAOS CUP!
Dagoth ----|
|--Primus---|
Primus ----| |
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Larry -----| | |
|---Lepas---| |
Lepas -----| |
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StormG ----| |
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Elias -----| | |
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Jinxer ----| |
|--Jinxer---|
Clayman ---|
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Lepastur
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The Red Taskmaster
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posted December 12, 2009 01:58 AM |
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should I fight Dagoth too? I thought my semifinal rival were Primus...
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 12, 2009 02:20 AM |
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You're right, lack of sleep is getting to me. Fixed.
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Elias_Maluco
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posted December 12, 2009 06:23 AM |
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Hey all. I see Elvin put me as winner of my matches with Storm giant, but I actually only fought him once. So, I realy dont think In should be declared winner like that.
To Storm Giant: Hey man. Unfortunatelly, I got home late, you are probably fast asleep by now. Deadline now is pretty dead, so I dont think we can play anymore. Sadly, when you could play, I could not; and when I could, then you could not. Very different time zones, it seems, and lots of stuff going on in the real life for both of us.
We did play one game, that I won. But you are a more experienced player than I, and I think you will probably win if we had played the 5 games.
So basically, is up to you: Elvin thinks I should go along in the tourney, since I won the only game we played. But I dont really feel right about it. So, you decide: if you think is unfair that I am considered the winner even if we only played one game, than ok, I resign the other games and you will be winner. If you think is fair that I get to advance in the tourney, then Im ok with that too.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted December 12, 2009 08:38 AM |
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@Elvin: now look who's snail-paced in updating the chart {my esteemed opponent is already into the chaos final}
{secret message to Dagoth [the real Joker] (which he won't read):...actually I'd give my wins to ya if you'd lemme know first & helped ya to your fantasygoal ...but I dunno why your pre-occupation with heart-eater when in most cases its heart-breaker  }
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Towerlord
Promising
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Hero of Good, Slayer of Evil
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posted December 12, 2009 12:19 PM |
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@Elvin, I think you are rushing Chaos Cup too much ... When quarter finals from main are far from over.
Let Jinxer/ Elias play their quarter games vs. Clayman/Storm Giant, for one more week, or at least 3-4 more days...
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 12, 2009 01:02 PM |
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Maybe you have a point, we did not even manage to play with albolabris yet. Let us hope it won't take ages for the chaos finalist to finish the games with you and Natalka..
Alright Elias, try to get hold of giant.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted December 12, 2009 02:30 PM |
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Well, If I hadn't got this extra time you'd has passed, Elias, cause you deserved to win in the match we played.
However, if we have more time, I still have chances of passing. I already sent you a mp, be sure to check it!
And thanks for the extra days
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Clay_Man
Known Hero
TOH gamer
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posted December 12, 2009 02:49 PM |
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Well if everyone who's involved agrees, I can continue with Jinxer too, since next week I'll have tons of free time to play.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 12, 2009 03:34 PM |
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Would be for the best. Soon everything will speed up due to holiday season.
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albolabris
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posted December 12, 2009 06:31 PM |
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Played first 3 games with Elvin. For now it's 2 - 1 in his favour.
1. Haven_Meave vs Strong_Kragh
Very good game. That's the kind of battle i was hoping for in those quarters. Both with Empathy. As i watched it by myself i think there are actually no mistakes. We both did what we could and should in my opinion. Thanks to the griffins i won in the end. Hope you enjoy this replay.
Replay
2. Haven_Dougal vs Dung_Sinitar
Well this one went just horribly for me. Lack of morale in first turn, palies blocked by the tricky fury, very annoying last stand, own units blocking other units and very powerful earth spells that destroyed my stacks before they could deliver some heavy damage. Resistance worked too late. Elvin played that one great having all the asses in his pocket. What i liked the most in this one was the griffins entertaining diving sequence  Too late though...
Replay
3. Inf_Nebiros vs Aca_Ihora
This was a disaster... Terrain and early genie action totally blocked me and messed everything up... and that was just it... After that i killed myself with lucky frenzy actions. Res failed. Don't have the replay. Frankly i don't even want to see it
Thanks for now and i hope we will finish this tomorrow though i'm pretty much screwed in 4th because my build is just a nightmare... First 2 were quite interesting ones but the third one should be canceled and never shown to the society
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted December 12, 2009 06:43 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 18:56, 12 Dec 2009.
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Aww no public humiliation for Albo  Well played, well besides the last one that will never be mentioned again
Tower made a suggestion about Mohikanin's missing game. I play him one match to see if he gets the point, are you up for a challenge?
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mohikanin
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posted December 12, 2009 10:33 PM |
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No - that's Nat's decision and we should respect it. What would you do, if she won't play with the chaos finalist? If you're gonna play with him (or her) - then I can play with you now.
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Elvin
Admirable
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Endless Revival
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posted December 12, 2009 11:01 PM |
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She is not running the tournament to have a say in the matter, the only decision she can make is not to play you. As such it is my concern to see what happens to the missing point - and while I considered giving it for free it would be unfair to everyone else. So if you want the point you will have to earn it in a duel as you would with Nat.
If she declines to play the chaos finalist then it falls upon pera who is the next player in succession. But we have a while till it comes to that, the chaos cup is still running and there is no telling who will win it.
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mohikanin
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posted December 12, 2009 11:22 PM |
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I'm ready to play with you even tomorrow.
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