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Adrius
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posted October 21, 2010 11:51 PM

Question: How many troops do you guys have your Battle Sizer set at?

I run at 199 (can't get my Battle Sizer to the exact 200...), for me it's the best balance between awesomeness and game stability.
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posted November 02, 2010 09:30 AM

100 or 200. Can't remember and I have not gotten around to install M&B at my new PC.
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posted November 03, 2010 06:00 PM

Mine's pretty low, just about 70, will probably change it later on.

So I've created a new guy, went good and all, had a decent army of 30 soldiers, half of them pretty high tier too. I had joined the kingdom of Rhodoks, pretty stupid considering them being at war with every othr faction (well, actually not with the Nords, ut thanks to a quest I did, they started a war against them too), and I was just minding my own business, plundering some villages when suddenly a nord army came from nowhere, must've been every single hero fo the nords, they had 2 000 frigging soldiers, and of course, they attacked me. I lost all my great army. , luckily though, they didn't steal my horse, God, that Hunter was my best purchase yet.
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posted November 03, 2010 06:04 PM

Does horse archery work in mount & blade?
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posted November 03, 2010 07:06 PM
Edited by Adrius at 19:07, 03 Nov 2010.

It works really well.

It's expensive skill-wise since you need a lot of them to be effective (Power Draw skill, Riding skill, Horse Archery Skill, probably a bit of Weapon Master too.) but once you've mastered it (both in manner of your personal skill and your character's skill) you've got the most versatile kind of fighter available.

I prefer going with crossbows since they don't need anything like power draw to be effective, leaves me skillpoints to put in army managment.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:01 PM

I'm still kind of unclear about the time scene of this game. Were speaking 1000 or so?

Can you make a working horse archer army?
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posted November 03, 2010 08:16 PM

The time scene... no idea. Depends on what mod you play It's... medievaly I guess.

Horse Archer armies tend to suck because of the game's sucky AI. You have to lead them by yourself to circle the enemy and stuff if you want to be effective (really tedious).

If you just let 'em run off by themselves, they'll fire a few arrows, run into the enemy and get slaughtered by pikes and other nasties.

They're best used as support troops imo.
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posted November 03, 2010 08:42 PM

Oh great...
And here I was thinking of finally getting the game and then making a good fast skirmish force to raid the enemy rear and flanks with some nice old guerilla tactics.

Oh well, I quess it's pike, mace and little squadron of cavalry for hunting down the annoyance.

I'll still have to at least try the raiding robber party though.

DLing the game, will have to test if this is worth anything...
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posted November 03, 2010 09:31 PM

My old army (that's now dead and replaced by some sucky Rhodok spearmen) had 10-14 cavalry units that went in quickly to deal with the enemies, with support by me, equiped with bow and sword. Adn then the rest was mostly made out of archers, with some minor infantry to defend them.

Also, I've never managed to figure out how to control your army, cept for the "Hear me!" command.
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posted November 03, 2010 11:29 PM

What? Seriously? You've played all this time without ever controlling your army?

1 - Everyone! Hear me!
2 - Infantry! Hear me!
3 - Archers! Hear me!
4 - Cavalry! Hear me!

Use the numbers 1-4 to select which units you want to issue commands to.
Then use these commands:

F1 - Hold This Position!
F2 - Follow Me!
F3 - CHARGE!
F4 - Dismount! / Mount Horses!
F5 - Hold Fire! / Fire At Will!
F6 - Advance Ten Paces!
F7 - Fall Back Ten Paces!
F8 - Stand Closer!
F9 - Spread Out!
F10 - Use Blunt Weapons! / Use Any Weapons!

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posted November 03, 2010 11:57 PM

Is there a switch somewhere to get into first person view by default?
I don't like switching it every time...

How do the skills effect using weapons? Simply damage grows? Is there damage boxes for head shots passing shields etc?
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posted November 04, 2010 12:38 AM

1. Not any such button that I know of.

2. The Power Strike, Power Throw and Power Draw all affect only damage. Agility affects your attack speed.

3. Depends on the shield's size, most shields are big enough to always cover the head (even though it might not look like it), but some are small enough for you to at least fire at their feet.
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posted November 04, 2010 01:28 AM
Edited by Carcity at 01:34, 04 Nov 2010.

Thanks, I guess I'll be trying out some commands then.

Also, I totally hate the Rhodoks on my map. Atleast they made peace with The vaegirs so I can get some archers. Three times today I've had to rebuild my army.

Although I still thought it sorta awesome when I got attacked by 1950 Nords soldiers.
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posted November 04, 2010 10:30 AM

Ah, ha. So that's why a direct hit in the face didn't do anything. Damn gamey guys.

The archery sucks monkey balls.
Even in first person view the character does not aim at the place he's shooting at. So the targetting thingy seems a must if you want to do archery.
The damage from arrows is ridiculously slow. This is for balance reasons?
Points for the realistic horse archery though. Love it. But the character could carry more arrows with him since he is on his horse though.

I am very controversial about the whole fighting.
On the other hand, the system is good with the blocks and parries but on the other hand, the controls suck majorly.
Having four attacks and four blocks is excellent in terms of keeping it simple but adding nice variation. The range difference and the difference of damage from different ranges is excellent. Apparently you cannot bypass a shield by hitting the feet though. That's a bummer.
I understand we're kind of limited in axels to use but the tying into mouse with the camera is a PAIN IN THE ASS. Hit left but want to look right? Not gonna happen!
Another complaint is the non existent explanation for the mechanics of fighting. It seems completely random at times. Is there some kind of logic to how fast the characters get a second attack after the last one was blocked?

How high can the weapon skills go? And what do they actually do? Archery obviously it gives at least accuracy but how about the rest?

Skills system is interesting since the skill points are really few. You cannot "keep up" skills like in most RPGs.

Adventure map, hit and miss, I am still not certain what there actually is and what not.


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posted November 04, 2010 06:08 PM

In native you can have 10 in each "skill", there was 24% or 28% increase per level of power draw was it? Or was it higher? Bow is the most overpowered weapon simply because it deals the most damage, and is the fastest and most versatile, when you got skill in it
Oh, and a note: The reticle spread is there to make sure that leveling a skill is useful, otherwise it would end up a lot closer to games like Oblivion where weapon skills are near useless.

Prophecies got no reachable skill cap, but it starts getting hard to increase in 600-700.
Your attack and recovery speed relies on your prophecy. You also get a negligible damage bonus(2-3% per 100 prophecy?), the increase starts getting less noticeable after 150-200(rapidfire from crossbow partially completed with proper aim, or flurry with weapons).

PS: You can shoot people in their feet, quite nice if you get tired of missing them headshots.
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posted November 04, 2010 06:28 PM

14% per level but the requirements of the bow are counted out. So 28 damage bow with draw requirement 6 and level ten will only do 47 damage. That means maybe 20 for body shots on regular encounter. Not so much.

Power strike does 8% but there are no requirement counted so same level power strike and same damage weapon(28) will do 60 damage. And that means 40 or so on regular encounter.

Doesn't seem that overpowered to me.


What reticle spread?


Points taken away from realistic horse archery. The arrows do not seem to abide to laws of physics after all.


So your prophesies are the weapon skills I take.
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posted November 05, 2010 12:28 AM

Yay, got my very own village, although it's extremely poor.

I'm suddenly so afraid of leaving it, it's just at the border to the lhergits, which my faction's in war with. So I'm staying here until I either build the watchtower or find out how to put a garrission in the village.


Also, Adrius, my wise nerd man, is it possible to convert villages to castles?
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posted November 05, 2010 06:38 PM

Nope, can't convert 'em.
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posted November 05, 2010 06:39 PM

Its a village: Its suppose to get looted, burned, pillaged and sacked.
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posted November 06, 2010 04:03 PM
Edited by Carcity at 10:43, 07 Nov 2010.

Damn, I guess I'll just have to protect it. Either that or kill them bloody Khergits, since I clearly is the only hope left for my kingdom, since "We have 6 armies and they have 15". Also, both kingdoms we're in war with have atleast twice the amount of soldiers we have, but hey, atleast our non-war with kingdoms allow me to get some decent i9nfantry.

Edit: What does the school do for the village?

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