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xerox
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posted September 24, 2009 08:51 PM |
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What would you want for H6 Fortress?
The Dwarven town that is
I know that many are disappointed at the Fortress in H6. It basically has 6 Dwarfs and yet another Dragon as the tier 7. 'จจ
My opinion is that the Dwarves should be based more on the Norse and should have a Fire/Frost theme instead of a Fire/Lightning theme.
The line-up would be more interesting as something like this:
1. Defender-Shield Guard/Banner Guard (support walker)
2. Wolf-Dire Wolf/Fenris Wolf (offensive walker)
3. Troll-Ember Troll/Frost Troll (shooter)
4. Bear Rider-Blackbear Rider/Whitebear Rider (damage/tank)
5. Rune Priest-Rune Keeper/Valkyrie (shooter, caster)
6. Berserker-Einherjar/Thane (offensive/support)
7. Wyrm-Magma Wyrm/Glacier Wyrm (offensive/defensive)
Also I think that all factions should get both Might and Magic heroes with their own racials. I think that Fortress might racial should be based on unit "Formations" then.
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Mitzah
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of the Horadrim
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posted September 24, 2009 08:53 PM |
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Edited by Mitzah at 20:53, 24 Sep 2009.
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Jiriki9
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posted September 24, 2009 09:10 PM |
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Since I would like Ashan to be scrapped, I'd like a new kidn of dwarven town, more mountainous or even undergroundish...
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Adrius
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posted September 24, 2009 09:23 PM |
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I'd actually think it'd be cool to just scrap the dwarves completely and have a norse themed town with humans.
Like a Cove town with vikings or something.
Buuuuut... if we're gonna keep the dwarves... yeah, well, I'd like the town to be more mountainish. A mountain can be hollow too. A big hole in the ground is pretty cool and well, quite unique, I really liked that, but a mountain would be better imo.
The units are pretty good as they are imo. Perhaps the brawler tier could be replaced with some sort of beast instead, feels like they just threw in that creature for fun. Extremly boring creature imo.
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rottenvenetic
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posted September 25, 2009 07:56 PM |
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I'd say for minimal changes:
1. Remove the rider from the bear
2. Change rune of charge to give +1 or max. +2 speed and some initiative.
3. Replace the skirmisher with a non-dwarf unit, maybe a small, fragile (by Fortress standards) but fast flyer and keep only the rune priests as ranged. Even with the skirmishers, Fortress sucks at the early game.
This way, you get a manageable 4/7 racial creatures ratio.
Maybe the Tolkien-type hollowed mountain could be the 2nd dwarf faction or the Fortress can ditch the dwarf personna entirely, they're bigger than humans after all.
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sith_of_ziost
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posted September 25, 2009 11:36 PM |
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Quote: 3. Replace the skirmisher with a non-dwarf unit, maybe a small, fragile (by Fortress standards) but fast flyer and keep only the rune priests as ranged. Even with the skirmishers, Fortress sucks at the early game.
Like maybe a Gyrocopter!
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KnightofHonour
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posted September 26, 2009 12:09 AM |
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"They came from... behind" *Gyrocopter dies*
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Snatch
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posted October 07, 2009 10:14 PM |
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Edited by Snatch at 22:14, 07 Oct 2009.
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Oh, I really love Norse themes.
May I suggest a Will-o-the-wisp as a small, fast and fragile flyer.
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gnollking
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posted October 21, 2009 06:28 PM |
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I suggest, that the Gnolls would come back.
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Asheero
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posted October 21, 2009 07:52 PM |
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1 - Gnome / Gnome
2 - Some weak dwarf unit / some weak dwarf unit (berserk like units)
3 - werebadger / werebadger (these are also dwarves when in their normal form))
4 - bear unit / bear in armor unit
5 - some powerful dwarf / some powerful dwarf (runemasters)
6 - troll / other troll type (trolls are slaves)
7 - Roc / Thunderbird / other big bird
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sith_of_ziost
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posted October 22, 2009 12:20 AM |
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First of all, unit Upgrade 1/Alternate 1/Alternate 2 is how I like the system.
But anyway, I think that the three racial units I would scrap completely would be tiers 2-4. They were terrible to the point that I would just get Tier 1, build the tier 3 dwelling just because I needed it for Thanes. But anyway, I think that Yetis need to be in the Fortress, and also I think some kind of Hippogriff or Lamasu, something ram-like or cat-like that flies and has a lot of fur. Maybe somekind of Niddhogg type feline. Haha.
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hobowu
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posted October 22, 2009 05:40 AM |
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H6 fortress?
back to swamp theme!
nival/ubi don't understand that graphics isn't everything.
gameplay & replayability is much more important than graphics.
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MattII
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posted October 22, 2009 05:45 AM |
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Quote: back to swamp theme!
Not going to happen, read the second sentence in the OP "The Dwarven town that is".
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SwampLord
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posted October 29, 2009 09:00 PM |
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Quote: H6 fortress?
back to swamp theme!
nival/ubi don't understand that graphics isn't everything.
gameplay & replayability is much more important than graphics.
I agree with this man.
In all seriousness though, some mountain beasties like frost giants, yetis, etc, would be pretty cool. And it would help counteract the stunties' inherent disadvantage, too.
My ideal list would be:
1) Shieldguard
2) Spearthrower
3) Bear Cavalry (simply too awesome to get rid of)
4) Berzerkers
5) Yeti-Ranged unit with good speed and no melee penalty, but relatively fragile.
6) Frost Giant- big, tanky, beatstick. Give it the ability to step over walls and other units due to size or something. Essentially a flyer. Give it a % chance to paralyze units hit with frost.
7) Lava Avatar- giant fire spirit thing. Similar to the Lava Dragon, but not another freakin' dragon. This guy is a perfect example. Give it flight to make up for the total lack of flyers/mobility at lower levels.
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dkolb
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posted November 09, 2009 09:10 AM |
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Back to swamp/lizard theme, or I could care less.
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