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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: WCL: Multiple league tournament 2010
Thread: WCL: Multiple league tournament 2010 This thread is 12 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 · «PREV / NEXT»
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Hired Hero
Romanian competition cavalier
posted May 16, 2010 09:13 AM

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I won my game against medium.

Me Inferno, Shakti. Him - Rampart, Ivor.

I broke into the dessert 2 days before him. Decisive battle 127. Then we played another 4 days, but it was doomed.

Good Liophy! Don't think about Lebron! I think he is betting now.

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fank0
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Known Hero
There are no limits
posted May 23, 2010 02:56 PM

Fank0_ (stronghold/Crag Hack/Crag Hack)defeated Volland (rampart/Mephala/Alkin) Jebus 2 1 7
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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted May 23, 2010 08:09 PM

ProtosArchon (Castle, Loynis, Gunnar) defeated FAVorite (Fortress, Mirlanda, Broghild) Jebus, 2.1.1

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted May 23, 2010 08:12 PM

decision regarding game Maretti - Redwait:

according to HP rules, "meeting" restart happens not only if battle happens, but also if one player captures unguarded town of another player. Flagging dwell or mine does not count for "meeting" restart. As Maretti plays according to HP rules/settings then I agree to make restart in your case. I consider rules were not translated/described correctly. However as bonus for disappointment Maretti gets 1 additional restart 1.1.2.

I will have to double-check translation of rules again...
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Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted May 24, 2010 08:35 AM

Paladin is not responding to my email 1 week already and I don't see him online. If he will not show up here or will not respond to email till May 27, then we will have to substitute him.
Those who would like to participate instead of Paladin, please post here.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted May 24, 2010 09:48 AM
Edited by maretti at 10:03, 24 May 2010.

I havent seen Paladin for months, so I think you might aswell replace him.

About my game: We both took 111 and 113 restarts, so finanly the game got going. I got lucky with rich map, on 160% I could build behemoths, castle and orcs week 1 even with money left for week 2 army. Got good skills on Hack too. So day 5 I took 2nd town, same day he aproches the town, so I was pretty sure he was looking for a day 6 restart, so I left the town with hack and got out of reach to avoid the restart, luckily the rules said battle had to happen day 6 to get a restart. Then he took the town and bought a flux hero and ran after hack, but since I had stabels he couldnt reach me. So he just says restart and leaves the game at once. Ofcourse I expect the game to continue as taking an empty town cant be considered a battle, not even a meeting imo. But aparently its an error in translation of the rules. So we have played 10 turns each on perfectly playeble maps and the game hasnt even started yet.

One of the points by playing this tournament was to try diffrent leauges rules. Now i have tried it. These rules support a strategy where you rush to your opponent with the single purpose of getting a restart wasting hours instead of playing your side as well as possible. (Im not acusing my opponent of anything but these rules might also tempt the host to have a little look in the editor to see if he should take restart or not.) If you reach him you get your restart, if not you lose. I played according to the rules I was presented with, even though I didnt like them at all, and would have won the game. So after all this I lost the desire to play by these rules. I would feel like being robbed if I would end up losing. so I suggest you find someone to replace me for this game.
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Known Hero
There are no limits
posted May 24, 2010 10:56 AM

I can replace maretti for this one game if everybody agrees.
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Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted May 24, 2010 11:32 AM

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So we have played 10 turns each on perfectly playeble maps and the game hasnt even started yet.


I understand your frustration. However restarts are part of a game.
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One of the points by playing this tournament was to try diffrent leauges rules. Now i have tried it. These rules support a strategy where you rush to your opponent with the single purpose of getting a restart wasting hours instead of playing your side as well as possible.

believe me restart is not a purpose. In this situation it's a way to avoid playing bad map when you have no other restarts left.
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Im not acusing my opponent of anything

in SOD you will always have this problem. In WT it's fixed.
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I played according to the rules I was presented with, even though I didnt like them at all, and would have won the game. So after all this I lost the desire to play by these rules.

I think that technical win is not good for tourney games. Will you be proud and happy that you have won game not because you play better, but only because of translation error and unclear rule description?
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I suggest you find someone to replace me for this game.

I hope that you will change your mind.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted May 24, 2010 12:39 PM

"I think that technical win is not good for tourney games. Will you be proud and happy that you have won game not because you play better, but only because of translation error and unclear rule description?"

Ofcourse I would have been willing to load my auto and play on. Hadnt I been in that area or hadnt I taken the town the result would have been the same. His strategy could easily have failed (which you could argue it did) and he couldnt have won. Wouldnt have been a game about skills in that case. All coincident whether he can get to me or not. Thats not how I think H3 should be played.
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Hired Hero
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posted May 24, 2010 03:32 PM

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"I think that technical win is not good for tourney games. Will you be proud and happy that you have won game not because you play better, but only because of translation error and unclear rule description?"

Ofcourse I would have been willing to load my auto and play on. Hadnt I been in that area or hadnt I taken the town the result would have been the same. His strategy could easily have failed (which you could argue it did) and he couldnt have won. Wouldnt have been a game about skills in that case. All coincident whether he can get to me or not. Thats not how I think H3 should be played.


I agree with Maretti. We must not forget what is the very first purpose of this: it's Heroes 3 and it's a game. So, are we trying to just joking or try to play Heroes? Otherwise, we can just restart all day? is this heroes 3 game?

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Supreme Hero
posted May 25, 2010 02:24 AM
Edited by maretti at 02:25, 25 May 2010.

I took a look at the saves and it turns out he broke the fmg rule day 5. Take a look for yourself. saves
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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted May 25, 2010 07:48 AM

this changes situation. I will talk to Redwait
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Protos


Known Hero
posted May 25, 2010 08:45 AM

I just hope HP fmg rule is translated correctly.

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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted May 25, 2010 08:31 PM

Maretti gets win
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Known Hero
There are no limits
posted May 26, 2010 11:25 AM

Who is TBD ?
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Hired Hero
Romanian competition cavalier
posted May 26, 2010 11:28 AM

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Who is TBD ?

yea, i want to know it too.

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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted May 26, 2010 11:37 AM

To be Described?
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Hired Hero
Romanian competition cavalier
posted May 26, 2010 11:41 AM

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To be Described?

and he is new in wcl?

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liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted May 26, 2010 12:02 PM
Edited by liophy at 12:02, 26 May 2010.

To Be Described is no man. It means that its still not anounced who will be. Its abbreviation.

But thats only my guess. Maybe TBD is some strange new nick. SAG will tell.
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Known Hero
There are no limits
posted May 26, 2010 12:48 PM

It is most likely "To be decided".
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