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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: WCL: Multiple league tournament 2010
Thread: WCL: Multiple league tournament 2010 This thread is 12 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 · «PREV / NEXT»
Paladin_H3
Paladin_H3


Hired Hero
posted March 19, 2010 06:40 PM
Edited by Paladin_H3 at 18:47, 19 Mar 2010.

LOL, and I thought the Sod rules were abit stretchy. Iam sure there all appropriate :S. Yes thank you Sag pls do consider it, I do hope to play for WCL rules.

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SAG
SAG


Promising
Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted March 20, 2010 08:03 PM

changed Paladin to WCL rules
substituted TajMahal with i_love_jesus as TajMahal does not have time.
updated first post with pairs and colors.
created Hamachi networks (will send net names and password to players in private tomorrow).
games should start next weekend:
27 and 28 March at 10.00 CET. those who can't play at this time - please post your available time.
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Paladin_H3
Paladin_H3


Hired Hero
posted March 21, 2010 07:02 AM

Cheers and thank you sag. I am available on 26th and on the 27th. 10.00 CET time seems good. Does it have to be on Hamachi or is Game Ranger out of the question?

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SAG
SAG


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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted March 21, 2010 01:49 PM

net and password is sent to players.
Paladin, please update your email at profile at http://www.heroes-iii.com/update.php. I don't have your email now. Please remember that ALL information is replaced during profile update, so enter correct new password, etc. Use only letters and numbers in passowrd.
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted March 22, 2010 12:28 AM

I cant play by hamachi.
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Paladin_H3
Paladin_H3


Hired Hero
posted March 22, 2010 05:30 AM

Quote:
I cant play by hamachi.


Me neither..its a problem iam trying to sort out.. although game ranger and gamespy is fine.

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SAG
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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted March 22, 2010 08:30 AM

I've asked if HW players can install Gameranger.
Edited first post with colors for all players.

We need to define clear restart rule, else it may be a problem. Each league has own "common sense", so it's fair that players would like to have clear rules. In normal game if opponent has uncompatible "common sense" - you just don't play with him next time, but in tournament it's not acceptable.

Also, TE players, please write your suggestions about settings/rules asap.
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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted March 22, 2010 01:39 PM

I already posted clear restart rule and received only 1 objection which can be ignored.

If no further objections, take that one.

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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted March 23, 2010 03:38 PM

I played my game and won.

I noticed the hit and run rule has been changed to the worse. I have no idea why this change has been made. In my game I had solmyr with air and enough spellpoints for 2 chains and superior speed. With this rule I could have cast chain on his main army and then forced him to use spellpoints and reveal haste or slow in order not to be hit a 2nd time. I dont believe such a strategy should be allowed.
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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted March 23, 2010 04:33 PM

SAG, since i am blue, does this mean i play acording to his rules? If so, where could i get them. What templete will be played. You said 2sm4d L+U. Is that so?

And when we play our rules, what was the deffault templete? First Jebus was mentioned for TE players, then Balance was suggested. Whats the final templete for our TE rules?
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Paladin_H3
Paladin_H3


Hired Hero
posted March 24, 2010 05:13 AM

Quote:
SAG, since i am blue, does this mean i play acording to his rules?


Its just he is red right..not that we play his rules when we are blue? I am asking this cause liophy and myself,we are both under wcl rules right? or have I missed something here?

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Paladin_H3
Paladin_H3


Hired Hero
posted March 24, 2010 05:17 AM
Edited by Paladin_H3 at 05:17, 24 Mar 2010.

Quote:

I noticed the hit and run rule has been changed to the worse. I have no idea why this change has been made. In my game I had solmyr with air and enough spellpoints for 2 chains and superior speed. With this rule I could have cast chain on his main army and then forced him to use spellpoints and reveal haste or slow in order not to be hit a 2nd time. I dont believe such a strategy should be allowed.


It does seems to be a better idea to modify the hit and run rules tbh, or is it too late?

And are we playin best of 3 or just one game...to confirm?

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SAG
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Supreme Hero
WCL owner
posted March 24, 2010 08:02 AM

Quote:

It does seems to be a better idea to modify the hit and run rules tbh, or is it too late?

propose better rule description. With another league we may change rules.
Quote:

And are we playin best of 3 or just one game...to confirm?

by default - 1 game. If both players agree - then till 2 wins.
Quote:
SAG, since i am blue, does this mean i play acording to his rules?

no, you play with WCL TE rules. We need to make them asap. Please post your proposal about TE settings else I will do it tomorrow according to my understanding.
Quote:

Whats the final templete for our TE rules?

I see no objections to my proposal. That means that our TE template is Balance too.
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maretti
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Supreme Hero
posted March 24, 2010 08:53 AM

Fleeing or surrendering from combat is not allowed for the first 3 rounds if you have done more damage to your opponent than he has done to you (HP). You are allowed to flee/surrender in any situation if that is the first action you take. Futhermore you are not allowed to sacrifice any hero with the purpose of reducing the opponents main army.

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Paladin_H3
Paladin_H3


Hired Hero
posted March 24, 2010 10:04 AM

Quote:
Fleeing or surrendering from combat is not allowed for the first 3 rounds if you have done more damage to your opponent than he has done to you (HP). You are allowed to flee/surrender in any situation if that is the first action you take. Futhermore you are not allowed to sacrifice any hero with the purpose of reducing the opponents main army.



That sound clear. This is more flawless than the other I must admit.

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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted March 24, 2010 11:29 AM

Quote:
 Futhermore you are not allowed to sacrifice any hero with the purpose of reducing the opponents main army.



Thats providing you attack? What if he attacks your scout, which is part of the chain? Are you allowed to make as much damage as you can? You are sacrificing nothing here. You are the one whos been attacked. Its not by your will.
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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted March 24, 2010 11:42 AM
Edited by liophy at 10:41, 26 Mar 2010.

TE Settings:


1. Hit and Run - yes
2. Savage Monsters - yes
2. Custom start resourses - no
4. Modifiy heroes - yes
5. Chess-like time - no
6. Timers stops durring all battles - no (no need, bacause no chess-like)
7. First day money transfers - no
8. New inferno castle gates - yes
9. Disable some town buildings - no
10. New witch hut - yes
11. Mage guild rebuild - yes
12. Reserve stack -yes
13. Empty battlefields - no
14. No upgrade stack - no
15. No good morale for neutrals - no
16. Offline mode - no
17. Restricted Dimension Door - yes
18. Replace scrolls with gold piles - yes
19. Replace hill forts with faery dragons dwell - yes
20. Build 2 level dwell in all towns - yes
21. DD is water magic - yes
22. Some creature banks are corrected - no
23. Necropolis Patch - yes

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Ban: Summon boat, Water Walk, DD, Fly,
Ban: Boots of levitation, Angels Wings, Sea Captains hat, Necklace of Ocean Guidance
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liophy
liophy


Famous Hero
Bulgarian
posted March 24, 2010 11:44 AM

And i would like more clarification about restart rules:

1. What if you dont have road to second town from your area? What if its heavily guarded.

2. What if there is no round road to hive zone?

3. What if there is no direct road to middle zone?
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maretti
maretti


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Supreme Hero
posted March 24, 2010 12:13 PM
Edited by maretti at 13:50, 24 Mar 2010.

Quote:
Thats providing you attack? What if he attacks your scout, which is part of the chain? Are you allowed to make as much damage as you can? You are sacrificing nothing here. You are the one whos been attacked. Its not by your will.


I admit its not totally clear. I would say that if he is part of a chain and is attacked he is allowed to do damage. As you said the purpose of being there was not to reduce the opponents army.

On the other hand, if you make an agressive move by moving in on the opponent with single fast units, blocking his way or threatening his town with some heavy magic like meteor shower, arma or chain you are not allowed to use it on his main army even if he attacks you.
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Protos
Protos


Known Hero
posted March 24, 2010 01:45 PM

Well, we will spend few weeks and 3-4 pages of topic if we want perfect H&R rule. No matter what u define, someone will always find a hole in it. I suggest to define it as simple as possible and live with it.

Liophy, u forgot about TE.ini settings.

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