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Myste
Myste


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posted January 26, 2002 10:51 AM

WHA....????
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Wesley
Wesley


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posted January 26, 2002 11:49 AM
Edited By: Wesley on 26 Jan 2002

Hmmm

Why still complaining about the vampire???
He looks awsome!
His name thought must change into Nosferatu.
I really like most creatures.

Only on that latest screenshot???!!!
What are the creatures they are fighting against?????
Gargoyles and a harpy?


PS look what they put in into warcraft aswel!
My mascote! Ghehehe!


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Gerdash
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Responsible
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from the Animated Peace
posted January 26, 2002 03:05 PM

Quote:
Why still complaining about the vampire???
        He looks awsome!
well, i guess my opinion about the vamp is already known, both to those who are interested and to those who are not. if the fact that ppl *still* complain confuses you, at least in my case you can think of it as continuing the tradition.
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Nernug
Nernug


Adventuring Hero
posted January 26, 2002 03:25 PM

Venom spawn

I dont like the venom spawn.

Some guy told me "Well can you do it better?"

In fact, IMO, I do.

Small:
http://www.hmm4.com/downl/downl_ug2.htm

Big:
http://www.hmm4.com/images/users/venom_spawn_640_480.jpg

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Wesley
Wesley


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banned
posted January 26, 2002 04:05 PM

I still say.

Remove that venom based snow.
Put in the succubus

and put the wyvern into neutrall to replace the venom abilities of the venom spawn.
The viper cat or wyvern are the ultimate venom mythology/fantasy creatures. NOt stupid made up snow.
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sheltem
sheltem

Tavern Dweller
Nemesis of the Ancients
posted January 26, 2002 06:17 PM

Sad but true.

Obviously Heroes IV will be a very ugly game.Ugly behemoths,ugly vampires.Ugly battlefields and ugly numbers on the units.

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darkspirit
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aka Zutus
posted January 26, 2002 06:39 PM

pulease, are you stupid or what... some stupid-looking units don't make a game ugly... look at the crusader animation when raising his sword, titans that rock when they throw their lightning, the way the hydra's move, the huge amount of fantasticly looking creatures (yes, there are more of those then their are bad looking), the way the map looks, all creatures look 3D but still they aren't... and you are saying that the game is ugly... get a life!!!
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Darion
Darion


Promising
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posted January 26, 2002 07:53 PM

Actually on the contrary. NWC has disappointed me again with these screenshots:

http://www.tothegame.com/screenshot.asp?id=108

The siege screenshot makes me want to laugh. The big bad creatures are playing "castle" and are standing on picnic benches! Yeeesh, this is supposed to be an impressive castle, with large walls that are supposed to bar creatures! Instead, the titan looks as if he could just step over the pitifully thin and fragile looking partition. And I suppose the peasants go over the ground and carefully place lumps of gray dirt in equally spaced out divisions? The moat of course couldn't drown an imp... is that supposed to hinder movement? Less moat and more like puddle... perfectly placed so it flows in a straight line?

The elementals also make me tut-tut the artists as well. The water elemental looks like somebody just spent 5 minutes in MAX modelling a lumpy creature, and adding a water texture to it. It does not look like a water elemental to me... rather it looks like a sad frightened blob of my hairgel (exactly the same color) The earth elemental looks like a diglett pokemon, and the unattached hand does not exactly look good for the fire elemental....

NWC, I know can do better than this. They are capable of PHENOMENAL and outstanding pieces of work... however either they have perhaps an entirely different concept of art than I do, or... and I really hate to say this, but it seems to me as if they are slacking with the new engine. Granted, some things look terrific! The creature proportions are fairly good, and the graphics themselves are bright, sharp and clean. However, this looks like mediocre work to me. I hope NWC does better on the next Heroes, because I hate to say this, but it looks like something an amateur would do.


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Linkki
Linkki


Adventuring Hero
posted January 26, 2002 08:14 PM

Do you need someone to tell you that the siege image is pre-beta, and not the finished product. Why do you think siege attack wasn't included in the preview version? There are still two months left, and that's not a short amount of time.

Do not EVER judge a game before seeing the finished product.

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Wesley
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posted January 26, 2002 09:20 PM

My impressions!

Those creatures look really awsome!
But some made me laugh!

Fire elemental looks like a pokemon named Haunter(also those silly hands)
Earth Elemental looks like diglet! And I don't like that one. I wish it was different!

The air and Water are fine with me.
Only in the other screenshot there is another water elemental. But this one looks like a condom! LOL!

My impressions for the fallen angel/devil and the angel. they look cool!
Also the imps are becoming better and better all the time!
The mantis headshot is awsome
and the haven town is cooler then cool!

Only the cerberus.... He has only 3 legs.. that's stupid! 3DO change that! NOW!
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Darion
Darion


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 26, 2002 09:29 PM
Edited By: Darion on 26 Jan 2002

Don't tell me how to judge. I am basing my opinion on what I am seeing RIGHT NOW. Perhaps I should start my posts with "As of RIGHT NOW" for those who think I am judging the final product before it even comes out..

In terms of what I said about the siege, pre- siege or not it should be changed by MY OPINION. And if it is a "pre-siege" then it's a pretty funky looking pre-siege to me. Or does NWC scale everything in half first by their Y dimensions and THEN for the final make it twice as tall?

These are my opinions BASED ON THESE SCREENSHOTS. They are IMHO and not to be accepted as official, nor should you be forced to accept what I believe in. However, don't tell me how I am supposed to think or judge.

Pre-siege indeed.
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Linkki
Linkki


Adventuring Hero
posted January 26, 2002 09:37 PM

"I hope NWC does better on the next Heroes..."
That's the sentence that got me sentencing your sentences. That's pretty condemning in my opinion.

And yes, the siege has to be changed, that does look ridicilous, but I got my hopes on that they will change it. Looking at how good they have done everything else, they can't mess up so bad with that. I also believe that they weren't adding elementals in the first place (the creature count is higher than they said before), so that might explain why they look what they look now. Either I hope that they will change the look of them, or then the screenshot doesn't do them justice.

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Wesley
Wesley


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banned
posted January 26, 2002 09:38 PM

Creatures that should be changed are.

Ive seen almost all in screenshots.(and the screenshots keep on roling!
Some look awsome some not..
Okay wich ones I still don't like are:



Wolf-This isn't discovery
Sprite-Whahaha she suppose to be handsome! Not ugly!
Cerberus-Make it bigger and more agressive looking. This one looks sweet and friendly. And why the hell only 3 legs?
Elf-BLEH! Make it a high/drow elf. But cut the elf! It's just a shooting girl..
Monk-Zealot zealot zealot zealot zealot zealot
Fairy Dragon-No comment. This is the most uglies creature I saw in any game YET!
Phoenix-Didn't see him yet. But Cut his presious looks!
Hydra-Cut the legs!
Black Dragon-Give them a second head! And change them into chaos dragon! Because we don't have red/green or other colour dragons.. Why still calling this dragon black dragon?
Fire Elemental-Make them salamanders!
Earth Elemental-Make it the homm3 versions!
Beholder-I miss the little eyes the beholders should have! And cut the crab scizors!
Troglodyte-BLEHHHHH! I wish they are like the infernal troglodytes!
Zombie-Make it male and non skeleton parts
Waspworth-Delete this snow! Make it dendroid! That should be much more homm like... This plant takes away even the expansion place of the dendroid..3DO thinks they are fine with only one flora based creature. SO bye bye dendroid or dryad..


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InfernoGuy
InfernoGuy


Adventuring Hero
Enjoys eating chicken
posted January 27, 2002 03:44 PM

On a positive note, things that look good:

Magi: Cool spell effects
Crusader: Just awesome looking, especially with the good morale animation.
Titan: Enormous size, looks taller than anything else
Imps: Have alot more detail this time around, looked really bad in Homm3
Vamps: I know he has a red bow tie but I like the vamp in the tux.


Unfortunately the minotaurs are plain looking and dont look as good as the mins from homm3. The devils look retarded (if that is a devil) and I wont even comment on the venom spawn.
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InfernoGuy
InfernoGuy


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Enjoys eating chicken
posted January 27, 2002 03:47 PM

haven and academy have the best looking units so far methinks.
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Linkki
Linkki


Adventuring Hero
posted January 27, 2002 04:19 PM

And further yet, screenshots don't do the game justice. We'd have to see them animated first.

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Gerdash
Gerdash


Responsible
Famous Hero
from the Animated Peace
posted January 27, 2002 05:48 PM

true, heaven looks extremely nice.

academy has just one creature that doesn't look nice, all else is good or ok.

asylum looks nice either, as far as i remember.

and the preserve is nice, especially if they called the faery dragon 'faery wyvern,' and as an optimist with neone blue eyes, assuming that the phoenix has been changed. except that the white tiger and the mantis lack some fantasy, and if they wanted to have the waspwort that is an original idea after all, they could have placed an ordinary waspwort on a dendroid or sth.

and the barbarians look good and different from other towns in a barbarian way, even the bit retarded looks of the behemoth could be reasoned with style and low intel. the thunderbirds look too futuristic though, and the centaurs don't fit the style of the barbs with their smooth looks.

and the necro looks very nice either, especially when we forget about the nice and gloomy looks of the pure necro towns in previous homms, except the green zombies and that they seem to have been short of toilet paper when they mummified their mummy imho. and the inferno creatures in the town of the dead is just because you completed the armageddon's blade scenario in homm3, i.e. your own fault. and compared to homm3, the cerberus has improved.

but the freaking vampire and venom spawn are rather intolerable imho (well, the venom spawn looks a little bit better from behind, i.e. bit more like a snake and less like a blob, and you cannot see it's ugly mouth). and the dragon golem is rather intolerable either, especially the gnome in it. yeah, and i really hope that i havn't seen the final version of the phoenix.

and if they havn't changed the placement of bone dragon's forelegs the way i last saw them, i wonder what's their secret message that the player has to figure out.

btw as far as i read from maranthea's email, they aren't changing graphics anymore (check here, if interested).

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in the siege shot, the moat looks funny indeed. assuming the walls etc are just symbolic representations, their looks aren't sth catastrophic imho. but the towers make it look like starcraft's spaceship missions. those missions were ok, weren't they?

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the elementals seem to be the clue to this puzzle imho, especially the fire and earth elementals. i wonder how many ppl are 10 years old here? from the way some ppl post, i assume they are quite a bit older (sorry, females). we are just a bunch of ppl who havn't grown up like they should, possibly because we have spent too much time on computer games, and now we expect nwc to make a game that us, almost senile ppl would like to play. is this some 'computer game dream' that we have here, or what?
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Wesley
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banned
posted January 27, 2002 05:58 PM

Hmmmm

I think the:
Vampire
Venom Spawn
Dragon Golem
Devil
Angel

and some others are really cool!
I hated them first!
Till I saw them!
THe venom spawn from behind looks awsome!
The vampire is super cool!(It's the new vain creature in the game)
Devil and angel look really nice aswel!Most of all their wings.
The dragon golem is cool with me. He looks cool within the creatures circle.
Also the mermaid and sea monster look greath!
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Darion
Darion


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 27, 2002 06:34 PM

REEAARGGGH!!

Geez, gang rape the dreamer why don't you.

Only stating my opinion. At any rate, I just am unhappy with what I see, because I know NWC can do much better, so I'm going to apply for a freaking job at NWC and see if my ideas and skills are any good then okay?! That's more than some of you slobs can say!

Yeesh yeesh yeesh... you say you're unhappy with a creature and then somebody decides you're the devil and preaches against you.
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Wesley
Wesley


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
banned
posted January 27, 2002 07:02 PM
Edited By: Wesley on 27 Jan 2002

Don't say such things!

Both the Mantis and the white tiger are in by me!
Watch the credits for got sake!

And don't think this is the only game my ideas were used...

They all seem to like my idea for the white tiger.(or they were just sorry for the only girl who plays warcraft3 )
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