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Jiriki9
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posted August 17, 2010 03:27 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 12:26, 18 Aug 2010.
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Since H6 is close ('final' lineups proposal)
...and seems to stay ashan, and close to H5, so it will probably not tooo different, an proposal to how new lineups could be could, without regard to story etc. (I didn't liek ashan enough to go really into the
storyline and I never REALLy played DM)
Only Change is 8 tiers^^
...have begun adding abilities from ability creation ability list &the original ones. For those from the list, the credit goes all to the creator who is given there.
Haven:
Peasant (Militia/Ruffian) [Taxpayer]
Pikeman (Helbardier/Lancer)
Bowman (Marksman/Longbowman)
Swordman (Crusader/Squire) [Encourage?]
Griffin (Royal Griffin/Battle Griffin) [Dive, Drive-Away-Dive?]
Priest (Inquisitor/Zealot) [Enchant?]
Cavalry (Champion/Lancerider) [Encourage?]
Angel (Archangel/Cherub) [Encourage?]
Sylvan:
Pixy (Fairy/Sprite)
Wolf (Elven Hound/Fenwolf)
Hunter (Woodwarden/Avenger) [Enchant?]
Druid (Keeper/Caller) [Energy Drain?]
Shapeshifter (Eagleheart/Wolfsoul)
Unicorn (Silver Unicorn/War Unicorn)
Dendroid (Tree Elder/Dendroid Warrior)
Green Dragon (Gold Dragon/Moss Dragon)
Shapeshifter could also be changed in another nature/spirit creature (f.e. Dryad as a tree-spirit or nymph as water-spirit) or maybe into fairy-dragon?
Academy:
Gremlin (Gremlin Saboteur/Gremlin Foreman)
Student (Apprentice/Scholar) [Enchant?]
Gargoyle (Obsidian Gargoyle/Glass Gargoyle)
Stone Golem (Iron Golem/Sand Golem)
Mage (Battle Mage/Sorceror)
Djin (Efreet/Djin Vizier)
High Mage (Archmage/Council Mage)
Giant (Giant Warrior/Titan)
Student could be replaced by an arcane spirit.
The High Mage is Large, for he'd either ride a flying beast or a flying carpet.
Dungeon:
Slave (Servant/Broken Slave)
Harpy (Scavenger/Harpy Singer)
Scout Rider (Horsebowman/Slave Hunter)
Minotaur (Minotaur Guard/Minotaur Shaman) [Enchant?]
Assassin (Blackblade/Shadow) [Darkness?,Enchant?]
Manticore (Tamed Manticore/Scorpicore)
Shadow Witch (Shadow Matriarch/Blood Witch) [Energy Drain?]
Dark Dragon (Black Dragon/Shadow Dragon) [Darkness?]
Inferno:
Imp (Familiar/Vermin)
Gog (Magog/Grunt)
Hell Hound (Cerberus/Hell Wolf)
Horned Demon (Hell Warrior/Flying Demon) []
Hell Stallion (Nightmare/Blazing Horse)
Succubus (Mistress/Tormentress) [Energy Drain?]
Pit Spawn (Pit Lord/Shadow Spawn) [Darkness?,Enchant?]
Devil (Archdevil/Archdemon)
Necropolis:
Skeleton (Skeleton Archer/Skeleton Warrior)
Zombie (Rotten Zombie/Ghoul)
Ghost (Wraith/Haunted Soul)) [Energy Drain?]
Vampire (Old Vampire/Bloodbound) [Deathgrip?,Enchant?,Energy Drain?]
Lich (Deathlich/High Lich) [Death Blast?]
Flesh Golem (Bone Golem/Blood Golem) [Deathgrip?,Energy Drain?]
Black Knight (Death Rider/Headless) [Deathgrip?,Enchant?]
Bone Dragon (Zombie Dragon/Ghost Dragon)
Fortress
Defender (Mountain Guard/Gatewarden)
Miner (Tuneller/Mineur)
Grizzly (White Bear/Kodiak))
Crossbowman (Sharpshooter/Harpuneer))
Runepriest (Runesage/Runeknight) [Anti-Magic Zone, Enchant?]
Hûne (Thane/Wallcrusher)
Honoured (Arch Warrior/Gold Helmet) [Encourage?]
Roc (Thunderbird/Stormcrow)
Stronghold
Goblin (Goblin Scout/Goblin Quack)
Centaur (Centaur Maurauder/Centaur Nomad)
Orc (Hordeaxe/Axethrower)
Wolf Rider (Raider/Wolf Knight)
Shaman (Fire Shaman/Blood Shaman) [Enchant?,Energy Drain?]
Troll (Stone Troll/Bridge Troll)
Ogre (War Ogre/Ogre Mage)
Cyclops (Furious Cyclops/Archaic Cyclops)
'New' factions:
Bastion - Bandits
Gnoll (Gnoll Bandit/Gnoll Warrior)
Spearman (Horsekiller/Javeliner)
Rogue (Cutthroat/Thief))
Will'o'Wisp (Fen Fire/Elf Fire) [Darkness?,Energy Drain?]
Trapper (Ambusher/Fire Archer) [Darkness?]
Medusa (Snake Queen/Viprous Medusa)
Renegade Mage (Renegade Wizard/Black Mage) [Darkness?,Enchant?,Energy Drain?]
Dragon Rider (Tyrant/Bandit Lord)
Rogue could be halfling unit. Renegade Mage rides (bull? black horse?) Medusa is large (Snake body, like in
Rampart - Reptilean
Lizard Hunter (Pioneer/Venom Hunter)
Snapping Turtle (Vulture Turtle/Fire Turtle)
Lizard Warrior (Executioner/Palace Guard)
Serpent Fly (Dragon Fly/Cobra Fly)
Giant Lizard (Varan/Basilisk)
Lizard Priest (Voodoo Priest/High Priest) [Darkness?,Enchant?,Energy Drain]
Wyvern (Paokai/Majestic Wyvern)
Hydra (Acid Hydra/Chaos Hydra)
Basilisk in H3 style, a lizard, too...
I know it's allready too late just some "final" ideas...
Neutral Creatures:
Halfling (Peasant-style. Wear a sling)
Stout Halfling (Halfling-Militia. Wear also a sling, but better with their Blades)
Shortbowman (Halfling Bowman^^)
Behemoth (Big, Hairy, Monster. Go out of the way or it EATS you )
Red Dragon (Big; Fiery; Angry; rather Clever; Impulsive; aaaand: Bad-mooded!)
Silver Dragon (Magical Dragon; Can cast mind magic; Strong against some evil units (undeads); Great magic Resistance)
Lindworm (Dragon Relative with crippled wings, and weakened breath; smells so bad that living (smelling )units around it suffer from that)
Pegasus (An Elf Riding on a Pegasus. They are too freedome-loving to obey to anyone long enough to be in a faction)
Summoner (Human performing arts of summoning; casts weaker summoning spells with medium-good efficiency; can be upgraded to Demonologist, Elementalist, Spirit Caller or Nature Caller, depending on WHAT you want him to be able to summon)
Elementals always come in Fire, Water, Air & Earth Form - and their mixes:
Fire+Air=Lightning
Fire+Earth=Magma
Fire+Water=Mind or Energy?
Air+Water=Ice
Air+Earth=Sand?
Earth+Water=Wood/Nature
Also, elementals come in three forms:
<element> Minion (weak form, tier 1-2, usually low health, especially)
<element> Elemental (normal form, tier 4-6, the usual elemental)
<element> Lord (very strong, tier 7-8, rare and really useful - if you can get some)
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xerox
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posted August 17, 2010 04:56 PM |
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I think the Haven line-up will be something like this:
1. Peasant
2. Archer
3. The Pikemen guy with the shield in the leaked screenshot
4. Griffin
5. Monk/Priest
6. Cavalry
7. Angel
There are 2 things I am unsure of and that is where that Pikemen would be and if there would be boring Peasants in the faction.
For Necropolis, I think the line-up will be something like this.
1. Skeleton
2. Ghoul (the "zombie" in the screenshot, but this one aint slow)
3. Ghost
4. Vampire
5. Lich
6. Wight or Death Knight
7. Skeletal Dragon
Its not as clear here though.
At first, I thought the Ghost (as a large creature) would be on much higher level than they are in H5 but seeing how many Ghosts/Banshees there are in that stack, I am guessing that they will stay on the third level.
In the screenshot, there are more Liches than Vampires so it might be so that Vampires actually become Level 5 creatures and Liches level 4 creatures.
No idea on the last two tiers I have no idea. Maybe there wont be a Skeletal Dragon and Wights take that spot and Death Knights become tier 6. Lots of possibilities here but I am pretty sure on the first three creatures in the line-up.
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VokialBG
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posted August 17, 2010 05:05 PM |
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Guys, guys, just what was said here by Elvin and Alci. Flooding the forum is not needed. I'm not messing their work, but the padlock on this thread is 95% sure. Just keep it in the main topic for now  Or in the Altar if this is not speculation but wish for lineups. Thanks.
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Jiriki9
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posted August 17, 2010 05:19 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 17:26, 17 Aug 2010.
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Can't see how waht they say applies to this...this is just another proposition, just CONSIDERING what we seem to "know". Not a thread to discuss what exactly we DO know...
EDIT: So, it IS a wish for lineups, but more realistic than my usual ones and cosnideringsoem of what we got
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Cepheus
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posted August 17, 2010 10:22 PM |
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Guys, guys, just what was said here by Elvin and Alci. Flooding the forum is not needed.
Say what? Mother of Gods, Heroes VI has been announced! I can't possibly think of a better reason to flood the forum!
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Jiriki9
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posted August 17, 2010 10:33 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 22:33, 17 Aug 2010.
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The thing was 'bout keeeping the DISCUSSION in the certain forum. I think this has been settled, concerning this thread^^
EDIT: and of course, you are right, CEpH!!!!
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Lumske_Beaver
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posted August 17, 2010 10:51 PM |
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No behemoths, thats a little sad, but generally the lineup of creatures looks awesome and very interesting
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Jiriki9
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posted August 17, 2010 10:55 PM |
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Edited by Jiriki9 at 22:55, 17 Aug 2010.
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thanks. Feel free to give your lineup as well...Hmmm, yes, behemoths could be great, but where? Supposed them neutral....maybe I should add my neutrals!?
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serptico
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posted August 18, 2010 05:53 AM |
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Fortress
Defender (Mountain Guard/Gatewarden)
Miner (Tuneller/Mineur)
Grizzly (White Bear/Kodiak))
Crossbowman (Sharpshooter/Harpuneer))
Runepriest (Runesage/Runeknight)
Hûne (Thane/Wallcrusher)
Honoured (Arch Warrior/Gold Helmet)
Roc (Thunderbird/Stormcrow)
Stronghold
Goblin (Goblin Scout/Goblin Quack)
Centaur (Centaur Maurauder/Centaur Nomad)
Orc (Hordeaxe/Axethrower)
Wolf Rider (Raider/Wolf Knight)
Shaman (Fire Shaman/Blood Shaman)
Troll (Stone Troll/Bridge Troll)
Ogre (War Ogre/Ogre Mage)
Cyclops (Furious Cyclops/Archaic Cyclops)
'New' factions:
Bastion - Bandits
Gnoll (Gnoll Bandit/Gnoll Warrior)
Spearman (Horsekiller/Javeliner)
Rogue (Cutthroat/Thief))
Will'o'Wisp (Fen Fire/Elf Fire)
Trapper (Ambusher/Fire Archer)
Medusa (Snake Queen/Viprous Medusa)
Renegade Mage (Renegade Wizard/Black Mage)
Dragon Rider (Tyrant/Bandit Lord)
Rogue could be halfling unit. Renegade Mage rides (bull? black horse?) Medusa is large (Snake body, like in
Rampart - Reptilean
Lizard Hunter (Pioneer/Venom Hunter)
Snapping Turtle (Vulture Turtle/Fire Turtle)
Lizard Warrior (Executioner/Palace Guard)
Serpent Fly (Dragon Fly/Cobra Fly)
Giant Lizard (Varan/Basilisk)
Lizard Priest (Voodoo Priest/High Priest)
Wyvern (Paokai/Majestic Wyvern)
Hydra (Acid Hydra/Chaos Hydra)
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Okay, miner - hune - honoured? what the hell is that? Forget it .. although I love the stronghold, bastion and rampart ideas ...
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Jiriki9
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posted August 18, 2010 11:35 AM |
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Okay, miner - hune - honoured? what the hell is that? Forget it .. although I love the stronghold, bastion and rampart ideas ...
Miner= a mine worker!? I think those are a MUST-have for dwarves, especiallly when those live in a city digged into the ground!
Hune=Like the Thane. A Hill giant Species, yet since for HoMM everyone would imagined Giant in the Academy Style leading to Titan, I choose a different name.
Honoured=Ahighly armed warrior. I did not found a better name, very sorry. If you have one, give it to me. Honoured, becuase they would be the most honoured and valued warriors of the Fortress!
Thanks that you like my visions here for Bastion, stronghold & rampart. THis is an Ashan vision however (which I myself do not liek so much, but H6 seeems to BE in ashan^^)
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LizardWarrior
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posted August 18, 2010 01:22 PM |
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acording to this screenshoot:
Necropolis will contain mummies and sphinxes
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Jiriki9
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posted August 18, 2010 01:25 PM |
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...these are still wishes, lizard
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LizardWarrior
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posted August 18, 2010 01:27 PM |
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yeah...but archer will be lvl 1 creature at Haven
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Jiriki9
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posted August 18, 2010 01:32 PM |
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Yeah well --- it may not be to late to change their minds
...I wonÄt adjust this further I think. THis was jsut the wish after the things got to be known
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posted August 18, 2010 01:40 PM |
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Oh BTW Gnolls, Gremlins, Horned Demons and Zombies (at least) are gone.
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Jiriki9
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posted August 18, 2010 01:43 PM |
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are you listening? 
you are free to post your wishes, if you want, considering these things
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bludgeon
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posted August 19, 2010 08:45 AM |
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Edited by bludgeon at 21:54, 21 Aug 2010.
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I will give it a shot (based on latest news of course):
HAVEN
1. Marksman
2. Praetorian (NEW)
3. Griffon
4. Monk
5. Ascendant (flying glowing lady from the artwork) (NEW)
6. Cavalier
7. Angel
NECROPOLIS
1. Skeleton (javelineer)
2. Ghoul (NEW)
3. Ghost
4. Vampire
5. Liche
6. Sphinx (NEW)
7. Drider (spider-girl) (NEW)
INFERNO
1. Cultist (NEW)
2. Cerberus
3. Succubus
4. Juggernaut (NEW)
5. Conjurer (NEW)
6. Pit Fiend
7. Devil
ACADEMY
1. Nomad (NEW)
2. Gargoyle
3. xxx (a floating suit of armor with sword) (NEW)
4. Gladiator (NEW)
5. Wizard
6. Genie
7. Titan
SYLVAN (scrapped, see next page for improved version)
1. Scout (NEW)
2. Archer
3. Centaur
4. Druid
5. Treant
6. Pegasus with a rider (NEW)
7. Force of Nature (elemental) (NEW)
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Jiriki9
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posted August 19, 2010 09:04 AM |
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Nice attempt. However, neither Pegasus nor Inquisitor are new...
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bludgeon
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posted August 19, 2010 09:26 AM |
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Nice attempt. However, neither Pegasus nor Inquisitor are new...
Pegasus with a rider would be technically a new unit, similar in feel to a cavalier, but flying and perhaps even ranged attacks too.
You're right about the inquisitor though, I'm changing it to a witch hunter
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posted August 19, 2010 12:32 PM |
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Centaur in Sylvan is not gonna happen, period. In Ashan Centaurs are half-Demon, so there is no way in Sheogh that the Elves will take them in.
Ok the rest of Bludgeon's line-up is not implausible at all.
Jiriki you've made a nice and based attempt abut we've had some news that seems to throw most of that out the window. Same goes for Xerox.
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