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Thread: A creational game [masterpost on page 224] [ This thread is 419 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 (124) 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 ]
Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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Altar Dweller
posted May 25, 2011 07:36 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 07:48, 25 May 2011.

for me, that can invoke both but I take it as nobility
Cascade


1. Which of these shall be a basic nobility subskill?

Heritage (THe Hero gains a minor artifact when choosing this perk)
OR
Fame (at the beginning of a week, a few core creatures of the heroes faction will offer the hero to join him for free)
OR
Recruiter/Training (Decreases the gold costs of creatures by a minor percentual value) [note: if you wish, you can also cap the maximum decrease, to amke this not to strong for champions, or restrict it to only Core / Core&Elite]
OR
Personal Banner (One unit is chosen at battle's begin which carries the hero's personal banner. The moral of this unit and all adjacent unit is strengthened a bit. But when this unit falls, the moral of all your units is highly decreased)
OR
Heraldic (The hero can provide you with informations which hero fights under which color)

2. CHoose another one from the list

3. Choose a basic sub for Nobility freely<

4. Choose a basic sub for Nobility freely or decalre there are only 3
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Avirosb
Avirosb


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posted May 25, 2011 08:00 AM

1.Heritage (although it's not really a skill, is it? )

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted May 25, 2011 08:03 AM

and in that, perfectly fits for nobility

1. CHoose another one from the list

2. Choose a basic sub for Nobility freely<

3. Choose a basic sub for Nobility freely or decalre there are only 3
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Avirosb
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posted May 25, 2011 08:52 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 08:54, 25 May 2011.

2. Majestic Presence - At the start of battle, a small percentage of the enemy army (affected by leadership?)will join the player's cause,
provided that the player already have creatures of the same type (or faction, you decide) in the army.

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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted May 25, 2011 10:16 AM

too close to diplomacy for my taste! do you think you could change it, please?

Which of these shall be a basic nobility subskill?

Fame (at the beginning of a week, a few core creatures of the heroes faction will offer the hero to join him for free)
OR
Recruiter/Training (Decreases the gold costs of creatures by a minor percentual value) [note: if you wish, you can also cap the maximum decrease, to amke this not to strong for champions, or restrict it to only Core / Core&Elite]
OR
Personal Banner (One unit is chosen at battle's begin which carries the hero's personal banner. The moral of this unit and all adjacent unit is strengthened a bit. But when this unit falls, the moral of all your units is highly decreased)
OR
Heraldic (The hero can provide you with informations which hero fights under which color)
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Avirosb
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posted May 25, 2011 10:39 AM

Diplomacy this aint.
Think Jesus, people followed him whether he wanted it or not.

Honestly though, we have a lot of subskills that would fit better under different skills.
But if you insist, I guess I'll have to change it.
Just give me some time.

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Jiriki9
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posted May 25, 2011 10:51 AM

I do not INSIST^^ if you want it much, keep it.

Which of these shall be a basic nobility subskill?

Fame (at the beginning of a week, a few core creatures of the heroes faction will offer the hero to join him for free)
OR
Recruiter/Training (Decreases the gold costs of creatures by a minor percentual value) [note: if you wish, you can also cap the maximum decrease, to amke this not to strong for champions, or restrict it to only Core / Core&Elite]
OR
Personal Banner (One unit is chosen at battle's begin which carries the hero's personal banner. The moral of this unit and all adjacent unit is strengthened a bit. But when this unit falls, the moral of all your units is highly decreased)
OR
Heraldic (The hero can provide you with informations which hero fights under which color)
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Avirosb
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posted May 25, 2011 10:54 AM
Edited by Avirosb at 10:54, 25 May 2011.

Okay, it's decided then
Fame & Glory (at the beginning of a week, a few core creatures of the heroes faction will offer the hero to join him for free)

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Jiriki9
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posted May 25, 2011 10:56 AM

Choose a basic sub for Nobility freely or decalre there are only 3
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alcibiades Online
alcibiades

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posted May 25, 2011 11:09 AM

Recruiter (Golden Tongue?).
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Jiriki9
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posted May 25, 2011 11:15 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 20:32, 25 May 2011.

Golden Tongue sounds very nice!

We come to the Battle skill now. Before we truly begin to make subs, we must, unfortunately, declare if the Battle Skills are learned from the Warrior Guild (similar to spells in mage guild) - Yes or No?
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Warlord
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posted May 25, 2011 11:40 PM

No
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Jiriki9
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posted May 26, 2011 06:10 AM

=(
Ok, then we must decide now, how they are learned

All X level-ups, the hero learns a Battle-Ability, whose strength is determined by the Level of "Battle"-Skill he possesses.
OR
All X level-ups, the hero gets to choose between 2 Battle-Abilities
OR
When reaching a new level in Battle-SKill, the hero learns 1-2 Battle-ability/ies of that level.
OR
When choosing a sub-skill of the "Battle"-Skill, the hero learns 1 Battle-Ability of that level
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alcibiades Online
alcibiades

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posted May 26, 2011 08:02 AM

Quote:
No

Noooooo wrong answer.
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Jiriki9
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posted May 26, 2011 04:35 PM

Since it's been decided now, nonetheless, we need an answer on how it's done...

All X level-ups, the hero learns a Battle-Ability, whose strength is determined by the Level of "Battle"-Skill he possesses.
OR
All X level-ups, the hero gets to choose between 2 Battle-Abilities
OR
When reaching a new level in Battle-SKill, the hero learns 1-2 Battle-ability/ies of that level.
OR
When choosing a sub-skill of the "Battle"-Skill, the hero learns 1 Battle-Ability of that level
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posted May 26, 2011 05:11 PM

When choosing a sub-skill of the "Battle"-Skill, the hero learns 1 Battle-Ability of that level

Also when Battle ability is increased, Hero learns a random ability of the new level he's allowed to.
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Jiriki9
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posted May 26, 2011 06:27 PM

ok^^ could be quite much...however, many battle abilities are possible, of course.

How about these Basic Sub-skills for "Battle" skill?

Archer/Aiming/Marksmanship (Increases the effect of Range-Based Battle Abilities and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Range-based Battle Ability)
OR
Aggression (Increases the effect of Offense-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get an offense-based Battle Ability)
OR
Trickery (Increases the effect of Stealth-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Stealth-based Battle Ability)
OR
Protection (Increases the effect of Defense-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Defense-based Battle Ability)
OR
Veteran (Somehow increases the usability of Battle abilities...if they cost mana, this makes them cost less, if they are limited per battle, the limit is increased, if they have a timer, the time before next possible use is reduced, etc.)
OR
Archery+Aggression+Trickery+Protection
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Avirosb
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posted May 27, 2011 12:36 AM

Archer/Aiming/Marksmanship

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posted May 27, 2011 05:05 AM
Edited by alcibiades at 05:05, 27 May 2011.

I suggest Melee + Mounted as battle abilities for, well, Melee and Mounted Battle abilities (that would be two separate abilities, obviously).
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Jiriki9
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posted May 27, 2011 06:35 AM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 07:48, 27 May 2011.

Why mounted? O.o the heroes are usually all mounted, anyway^^ And I do not really see many mounted abilities which make sense, when the hero is not on the battlefield.

...anyway I'm away this weekend, so a CASCADE is absolutely necessary^^

1. Which of these shall be subskill for "Battle"?

Aggression (Increases the effect of Offense-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get an offense-based Battle Ability)
OR
Trickery (Increases the effect of Stealth-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Stealth-based Battle Ability)
OR
Protection (Increases the effect of Defense-Based Battle Abilites and the chance to gain such when increasing the level of "Battle". Choosing this sub, you will definitely get a Defense-based Battle Ability)
OR
Veteran (Somehow increases the usability of Battle abilities...if they cost mana, this makes them cost less, if they are limited per battle, the limit is increased, if they have a timer, the time before next possible use is reduced, etc.)
OR
Archery+Aggression+Trickery+Protection

2. CHoose another subskill for Battle freely

3. CHoose another subskill for Battle freely or declare there are only 3

4. Which of these shall be Wood Magic Subskill?

Season Magic (Improves "Autumn's Touch" & "Bloom/Spring") [Note: could also effect "Nature's Boon", maybe)
OR
Soul of the Trees/Tree Magic/Leaf Magic (Improves "Briar Wall" & "Summon Wood") [Note: could also effect "Bridge" maybe)
OR
Kobold-Friend/Leprechaun-Friend/Rainbow-Walker/leprechaun Magic/Luck Magic/better name (Increases the effect of "4-leaf-Clover/Fortune" and "Summon Leprechauns")
OR
Stinger/Hive Magic/better name (Improves "Wasp Swarm", by adding it a stunning or poisoning effect)

Note: I suggest that higher level spells are also improved by higher-level subskills.

5. Choose another one of the list for wood magic

6. Choose a Wood Magic Subskill freely

7. Choose a Wood Magic Subskill freely ior declare there are only 3
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