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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Ubisoft's Griffin Fetish: Love it or Hate it?
Thread: Ubisoft's Griffin Fetish: Love it or Hate it? This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
Elvin
Elvin


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posted February 26, 2011 12:15 AM

I ain't seen none in H6, they are in your head Possible exception a boss.
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xerox
xerox


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posted February 26, 2011 12:17 AM

The whole story of the game is about the Griffin family.

Is it then a suprise that Griffins are such a major theme?

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blighboy
blighboy


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posted February 26, 2011 04:50 AM

We need more griffins and dragons. No, that's not enough...we need griffins riding dragons.

On a serious note, out of all the mythological creatures to focus on, they chose some of the coolest ones, so I see no reason to complain. We just need a Chimera empire and they're pretty much set as far as awesome creatures are concerned.

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MattII
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posted February 26, 2011 07:28 AM

Quote:
I ain't seen none in H6, they are in your head Possible exception a boss.
Well apart from said boss(es) we have pretty much the whole lore, and one of the resources. I mean dragons at tier 7 sure, but do they have to base the whole of the lore on the bloody things?

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B0rsuk
B0rsuk


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posted July 30, 2011 04:16 PM

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You lost me at They're kind of boring, to be honest. They're a lion and an eagle: Big deal.


They combine the worse parts of both animals.

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Avirosb
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posted July 30, 2011 05:20 PM

You now what this game lacks?
Mutha****ing wyverns.

Would've been nice to see some rivalry between the two creatures,
since they're both heavily featured as heraldic symbols.

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lizardwarrior
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posted July 30, 2011 07:15 PM
Edited by lizardwarrior at 19:58, 30 Jul 2011.

I remember that I made a haven proposal with wyvern instead of griffins.Wyverns are overused in heraldic,imagine that a haven with both wyvern and griffin,would be awesome and we could get rid of vestal or radioactive glory.

A heraldic haven would have:
Core
-Pikeman/Footman
-Crossbowman/Archer
-Zealot
Elite
-Cavalier
-Griffin
-Wyvern
Champion:
-Archangel

That would be AWESOME
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted July 31, 2011 11:40 AM

Quote:
what about holy rakshasas empire?
after all, they are part lion too.


that would be the final drop from TOTALLY stopping me from wanting to get that game...even copied...
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Avirosb
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posted July 31, 2011 12:13 PM

Jir, purely out of curiosity, what's your beef with those blue cats?

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lizardwarrior
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posted July 31, 2011 12:16 PM

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Jir, purely out of curiosity, what's your beef with those blue cats?


Maybe because they're blue and cats in the same time?
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted July 31, 2011 12:41 PM
Edited by Jiriki9 at 12:49, 31 Jul 2011.

Quote:
Quote:
Jir, purely out of curiosity, what's your beef with those blue cats?


Maybe because they're blue and cats in the same time?

thats exactly the main point. and overall. they look (at least in H5) like directly out of an anime or a comic book...and I hate that in homm^^ that and the blue colour, as well as them replacing the nagae, had woken my hate...
EDIT: also, on the topic...I haven'T played H6 so far, but I do not feel that being a griffin fetish^^ the griffin IS a classical and important figure...
EDIT2: noticed this:
Quote:
I remember that I made a haven proposal with wyvern instead of griffins.Wyverns are overused in heraldic,imagine that a haven with both wyvern and griffin,would be awesome and we could get rid of vestal or radioactive glory.

A heraldic haven would have:
Core
-Pikeman/Footman
-Crossbowman/Archer
-Zealot
Elite
-Cavalier
-Griffin
-Wyvern
Champion:
-Archangel

^^a flyer-based haven...interesting...though I'd also prefer the mentioned idea of griffin-wyvern faction rivalry...
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B0rsuk
B0rsuk


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posted July 31, 2011 05:04 PM

Heaven is already very far from its Heroes 1 roots, where it had no flyer and only 1 shooter of level 2. In Heroes 3 all armies have very similar lineup (on high level, meaning number of shooters, walkers and flyers):

Castle - 2 flyers, 2 shooters, 3 walkers
Tower -  2 flyers, 3 shooters, 2 walkers
Inferno - 2 flyers, 1 shooter, 4 walkers
Rampart - 2 flyers, 1 shooter, 4 walkers
Dungeon - 2 flyers, 2 shooters, 3 walkers
Stronghold - 1 flyer, 2 shooters, 4 walkers
Fortress -   2 flyers, 1 shooter, 4 walkers
Necropolis - 3 flyers, 1 shooter, 3 walkers

No major differences. You always have both shooters and flyers. No town has only 1 shooter AND less than 2 flyers, or 1 flyer and less than 2 shooters.

I won't be surprised to see Haven with mostly flyers in Heroes 6 :-).
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted July 31, 2011 05:13 PM

@B0rsuk:

well, but that comparison is hard to make, since the number of different units per faction has also changed, as well as the impact of the flying-ability...
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Doomforge
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posted July 31, 2011 06:44 PM
Edited by Doomforge at 18:45, 31 Jul 2011.

Good point. With the pace of battle slowed dramatically,extreme mobility on battlefield is no longer something that's an absolute must. I'd say Heroes VI nerfed flying units indirectly.

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