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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: I really hope for a fast patch
Thread: I really hope for a fast patch This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
Nelgirith
Nelgirith


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted July 03, 2011 12:26 AM

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Sanctuary's water walk is just ridiculous. But I'm totally baffled that it's an important part of their campaign. That means it's not just a stupid mistake, but it's a planned stupid mistake...

I wouldn't mind if it was a campaign-only feature. Let's hope it can be disabled by mapmakers.

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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted July 03, 2011 12:30 AM
Edited by Jabanoss at 00:33, 03 Jul 2011.

Yeah but the campaign is not a problem, and it's perfectly alright if they have it fully implemented there.
However they should not under anyway be able to freely travel on water in ordinary maps.

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- To get 1st level of blood/tears effect (which boosts your racial and corresponding skills) you'd have to let 50 stacks to run away from you or pursue 100. Great job, Ubi... seriously? :shock I haven't found any other way to boost reputation so far.

There are more ways actually, for example there are arenas.
And of course more importantly, each time you use a spell or warcry, you gain blood or tear if they belongs in that "category", at least I think it is that way... :/

But I agree with the general idea, having to choose between pursuing or leaving is a bit ridiculous as you often just base that one other things anyway.
For one, leaving should give 5 tear and pursuing 10 blood imo, since it is easier to just leave then to kill...
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xerox
xerox


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 03, 2011 02:05 AM
Edited by xerox at 02:08, 03 Jul 2011.

I do not agree with that they should buff Logistics.
I didn't like that it was such a must have skill in previous games.

The Water walking would have been a perfect Sanctuary-exclusive perk if H6 used H5s skill system which had more racial diversity.

Also I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE FREAKING STUPID REPUTATION SYSTEM!!!
I think its so annoying that it takes FOREVER to gain points and this is one of the most stupid things in the game: Just because I have a Tear hero means I can't use a SINGLE OFFENSIVE SPELL without losing points. Its awful.

Also attack spells seem MUCH weaker than the basic Hero attacks. I think it totally sucks that the Magic heroes ranged attack does more damage than their spells.
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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted July 03, 2011 02:38 AM

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Also I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE FREAKING STUPID REPUTATION SYSTEM!!!
I think its so annoying that it takes FOREVER to gain points and this is one of the most stupid things in the game: Just because I have a Tear hero means I can't use a SINGLE OFFENSIVE SPELL without losing points. Its awful.

Also attack spells seem MUCH weaker than the basic Hero attacks. I think it totally sucks that the Magic heroes ranged attack does more damage than their spells.

Offensive spells do not decrease your tears rating, they just increase blood. And they aren't weaker than your hero attack.. Save maybe tier 2-3, those could use a good buff.
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xerox
xerox


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posted July 03, 2011 03:16 AM

Nice, then I do not need to worry about the spells I am picking up in the future.

Also when I was playing my Firebolt was doing less damage than Heroic Strike.
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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted July 03, 2011 07:52 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 07:56, 03 Jul 2011.

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Nice, then I do not need to worry about the spells I am picking up in the future.

You can gain up to 5 reputation points per fight based on the spells and abilities you use. This means :
1. If enemies flees and you let them go, you gain 10 tears points.
2. If enemies flees and you pursue them you gain 5 blood points and you can gain 5 additional points (blood or tears).
3. In a normal combat you can gain 5 points (blood or tears).

You have to optimize your spells usage to gain the points you want.

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Also when I was playing my Firebolt was doing less damage than Heroic Strike.

That depends on your stats. The power of your Heroic Strike is increased by your hero's Might (Might = (Might Attack + Might Defense)), so if you have high Might stats, there's chance that your Heroic Strike will do more damage than a spell (especially if you have low Magic Attack), but you won't gain any reputation by doing so.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted July 03, 2011 11:15 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 11:15, 03 Jul 2011.

The weird part is, I was using at least 2-3 warcries every battle with haven, and I allowed countless weak stacks to flee... I ended the game with 250 tear points. With 1/3 XL map cleared and deep in 2nd month.

It should be tripled at least. Also, pursue should be +10 blood points, they take forever to charge up.
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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
posted July 03, 2011 11:20 AM

That's because the game is unfavorably leaning towards Tears at this point due to the dominance of Healing/Regeneration and overall troop-conserving abilities.
It's unsound to play completely Blood, but it's completely sound to play Tears exclusively, which summarizes a big part of the game's current balance problems.

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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted July 03, 2011 11:28 AM
Edited by Doomforge at 11:28, 03 Jul 2011.

The easiest solution to that would be to make the XP gain speed modifier affect reputation points as well. Along with maybe shifting one of the healing methods to blood (regeneration perhaps?)
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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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Property of Nightterror™
posted July 03, 2011 11:40 AM

Is it really true that life drain is bad? (cuz that one is blood right?)
But even if it was good it would heal any ranged units... :/
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


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Supreme Hero
posted July 03, 2011 12:40 PM

I have the beta as I pre-purchased from Steam. But after seeing all this bugs, this huge storm of disappointment, I will not play the game. And I just hope they will push the release date to 2012 or something. I just want a perfect game. A game that will even make H3 obsessed generation to say "OK. This game is better than H3" or make me say it is better than H5-TOtE. I have waited for so long. I can wait a little more.
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xerox
xerox


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 03, 2011 12:50 PM

So you expected tha the beta was going to be bug free?

Our purpose in the beta is to detect bugs and provide feedback to UbiHole so they can fix them and the balance. That's the reason why there are threads like these. I do hope UbiHole read this forum though because im not posting on their messy forums where they removed my thread where I tried to organise all bugs in different categories...
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Nocturnal
Nocturnal


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posted July 03, 2011 01:04 PM

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So you expected tha the beta was going to be bug free?


I'm not only talking about bugs. You should have realised that when reading. I'm also talking about all this disappointment about the game. This disappontment is not only because of the bugs it seems. I mean, if there were no bugs, most people would still be disappointed because some say there is no "Heroes" atmosphere in the game, some say it is such a mechanical game, etc.
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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted July 03, 2011 01:10 PM

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I do hope UbiHole read this forum though because im not posting on their messy forums where they removed my thread where I tried to organise all bugs in different categories...

Did you make sure it wasn't just moved to the official beta forum?

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