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rossko
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posted October 28, 2011 11:40 PM |
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Anyone else shocked at no LAN play?
I am still in a bit of shock that they did not put LAN plan into HOMM VI. Has anyone heard if this is going to be patched in later?
I was pretty disappointed when I found this out. Especially because I had some friends over for a Heroes LAN party and didn't bother to check beforehand that there is no LAN option (because who would make a game and leave out LAN multiplayer?!). Joke was on me. We still had a good time playing hotseat, but I am still really shocked that there is not option for playing multiplayer over LAN.
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Nelgirith
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2011 12:27 AM |
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H5 had no LAN either, so I wouldn't put my hopes high for it. LAN has been ignored by most game developpers for years now.
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xerox
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 29, 2011 12:52 AM |
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I never understood why people care about LAN so much
what's the difference? you can still easily play with your friends
don't you have good internet connections in your countries?
they are doing lots of commercials about 4G here
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feluniozbunio
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2011 01:39 AM |
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They defend from piracy this way, im ok with it.
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted October 29, 2011 03:38 AM |
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Stopping people from playing a game over a network doesn't prevent piracy...
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feluniozbunio
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2011 06:10 AM |
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It doesnt prevent but it reduces. People that want to play multiplayer have to buy the game. (not counting hot seat)
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted October 29, 2011 07:21 AM |
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Eh...
How is playing via LAN any different from playing Hot Seat? If you're playing via LAN, you're still all in the same room...
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B0rsuk
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Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted October 29, 2011 08:56 AM |
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Edited by B0rsuk at 09:03, 29 Oct 2011.
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felunio: the world does not end with you. You make me wish this forum had "ignore list" feature. Throwing fallacies around and insinuating things doesn't help your case. I find your posts not worth responding to (lack of merit, argumentation), so I don't.
Aosaw:
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How is playing via LAN any different from playing Hot Seat? If you're playing via LAN, you're still all in the same room...
It's different because you don't have to try very hard not to look at the screen when it's not your turn. You don't have to play without sounds or with headphones. You can look at stuff and plan during opponent's turn. Hot Seat only works for cooperative against AI.
Actually a big advantage is that this way it can be played by people in separate rooms. A brother, a flatmate, etc.
Diablo III has its Torchlight 2. It's high time someone does the same to Heroes III. Maybe Warlock - the upcoming game from Paradox ?
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feluniozbunio
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2011 08:59 AM |
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Its not only that, there are programs that enable playing via internet as it it was LAN(hamachi), so enabling LAN games=enabling internet games that are not verified with conflux.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted October 29, 2011 09:20 AM |
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Hey guys, please keep it civil.
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Shares
Supreme Hero
I am. Thusly I am.
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posted October 29, 2011 12:31 PM |
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Xerox: You forget that that's mostly for the southern third of Sweden or so and that Sweden actually has a very well developed communications network(especially if you look at it per capita).
Also, even with a desent connection it can be kind of rough to try and play a lot of people on it. Say that you have a 18 Mbit (effective) connection, then that is well above what you need to play a game online. If you however are six people sharing that connection? Then that can cause some trouble. Especially if half of you are trying to download the latest patches for some other games you plan on playing, while the other half is browsing youtube when their not playing their turns.
For most of the time this won't make playing impossible, but in many cases it will make it a hassle and a liability.
Besides, if you're living on the country the 4G network isn't that effective even in Sweden, the cable connections are slower and often 3G is the best(fastest and most stable connection). That's what we got out here, and trying to play several people online is not an option. Playing one, maybe two, would work and downloading things take a while, but it's not impossible.
So, if I want to play with my country boy friends, a LAN is a very viable option, since playing over the internet can be laggy and unreliable. WE often need the LANs to be able to play without too much trouble, and removing the LAN options from games will really make it a hassle for us, but if we wanted to we could propably hack the game and make it playable for LAN.
Also, there propably WILL be times when the servers aren't running or are running slow. Either because of temporary downtime, excessive strain on them, or because the servers propably won't be running indefinetly. I still play old games at LANs, like HoMM3, Diablo II and Age of Empires II, and if neither LAN nor servers are available when I want to play HoMM VI with my friends in ten years or in two months when the servers are down, then that's an issue.
It's just bad service against the consumers and is yet another DRM that will mostly damage faithful customers that really want to buy, play, like and spread the game to their/our friends but will only cause a little more work for the crackers.
Oh poodle, I'm ranting, aren't I?
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akaihane77
Hired Hero
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posted October 29, 2011 02:39 PM |
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Its not only that, there are programs that enable playing via internet as it it was LAN(hamachi), so enabling LAN games=enabling internet games that are not verified with conflux.
I hope you do realise that having no lan does not prevent hackers from making it playing via internet possible. Look at civ 5 , hackers has once again make it possible...same with starcraft 2 by having private servers.
And how sure are you that 10 years down the road , ubisoft will still be around to keep their servers up? Even some company like blizzard may not even be able to warrant it.
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feluniozbunio
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 29, 2011 07:03 PM |
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I don't have internet issues, so it doesn't bother me. I can understand frustration for those who have problems with internet. 10 years down the road i wont be playing h6 100%. Piracy wont be eliminated but i think its much more complicated to do private servers etc then to download torrent, hamachi and install the game. I can imagine many pirates frustrated with amount of work they have to do just to go around the current system and just buy the game. I always felt blizzard was making good money just because they had many games that required legit version of a game to be able to connection to battle.net to have real fun.
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akaihane77
Hired Hero
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posted October 30, 2011 03:15 AM |
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I don't have internet issues, so it doesn't bother me. I can understand frustration for those who have problems with internet. 10 years down the road i wont be playing h6 100%. Piracy wont be eliminated but i think its much more complicated to do private servers etc then to download torrent, hamachi and install the game. I can imagine many pirates frustrated with amount of work they have to do just to go around the current system and just buy the game. I always felt blizzard was making good money just because they had many games that required legit version of a game to be able to connection to battle.net to have real fun.
Let me ask you a simple question. Why does toh players choose to use hamachi for h5? Do you think similar problems won't happen with h6 servers?
You fail to understand something very simple. It is the ubi server we are talking about. They are not a very big company and the amount of money they spend on the server and maintainence will probably be insufficient to run it in the best condition.
Do you know how many complains blizzard get from players that starcraft 2 has no lan support? Do you know how many times starcraft 2 tournaments that has prize money over a million had connection issues with b.net that they have to restart the game because one of the players dropout? This is blizzard we are talking about and they are a much bigger company than ubi. If blizzard can't even have 100% uptime server , do you think ubi can do it?
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Avirosb
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No longer on vacation
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posted October 30, 2011 03:28 AM |
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Ubisoft is not a very big company
Lolwut?
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The company has a worldwide presence with 23 studios in 16 countries and subsidiaries in 26 countries. As of 2011, it is the third largest independent video game publisher in Europe, and the third largest in the United States
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B0rsuk
Promising
Famous Hero
DooM prophet
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posted October 30, 2011 12:11 PM |
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feluniozbunio
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Supreme Hero
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posted October 30, 2011 04:10 PM |
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I haven't thought about all that..., all i know is that since i bought h6 every time i launched it servers were working perfectly, there was no lag too. If the standard gets worse when it is going to be a problem, but i don't see any reason to complain now. I know the game has lots of bugs etc but servers in my my eyes work good.
You can complain all you want but it doesn't change the current state. If you complain enough then maybe they do something about it but i believe there are many more important things they should focus now on then improving something that works good now.
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted October 30, 2011 07:54 PM |
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Fun with quotes!
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You can complain all you want but it doesn't change the current state.
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If you complain enough then maybe they do something about it
Your words, not mine. 
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but i believe there are many more important things they should focus now on then improving something that works good now.
I wouldn't say it "works good". It "sucks less". As people have pointed out already, having to be online to play LAN makes it more difficult to play LAN. If you don't play LAN, bully for you, it's not a problem - but if someone wants to have a H6 LAN party, they can't. Explain to me how that "works good"?
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rossko
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 31, 2011 05:15 PM |
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I'm glad to see I was not the only one frustrated with this. Hotseat is not as preferable to LAN play just as internet play is not always as preferable to LAN play as the reasons stated in this thread.
Although I bought the game(deluxe edtion even) and have played MANY more hours via hotseat on my roommate's laptop than actually playing my own copy, I do not regret the purchase.
But I do not care for this assumption that everyone has great internet everywhere or even chooses to. I live in an area where I can get great internet no problem, but both my roommate and I choose not to pay for internet because we are only at home to sleep, eat, and (now that it is out) play Heroes 6. And we did try to use his phone's internet connection to play online, that certainly did not work.
I would love to see a LAN option come out. It does make me wonder though: if a pirated version of the game comes out with LAN play, and I download it, am I pirating the game? Or simply exercising my license?
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Aosaw
Promising
Famous Hero
Author of Nonreal Fiction
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posted October 31, 2011 06:08 PM |
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You're violating your Terms of Use Agreement, which you agreed to when you installed the game. So, yes.
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