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posted January 15, 2012 05:20 PM |
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This woman was just stupid but not criminal. I don't think she must go to jail. But she must be sterilised.
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doing so how? Sterilisation?
Sterilisation, extermination, whatever...
Do you know the meaning of this word? Holy ****!
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Currently British school children also have to contend with homosexual sex education.
"Contend with"? First of all how do you seperate sex education into hetero and homo? Hetero people can have anal sex too. And if I accept this seperation you made, you are seeing it only from the eyes of hetero students. Homosexual students have to contend with hetero sex education too.
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posted January 15, 2012 05:34 PM |
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I can also have sex with a donkey, does not mean I will.
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posted January 15, 2012 05:44 PM |
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Discussion makes no sense since most people are biassed in terms of sexual education due to their own sexual education.
It's bollocks to claim that sexual eduation would need a certain "maturity". Sex is the most basic thing in life, the prerequisite of existance - no maturity is necessary, except of course from those who teach.
In earlier times people had different opinions on this - especially in rural areas. In the countryside, on a farm with animals all things concerning reproduction are pretty normal occurences and facts of life. Today we are overprotective with our children - we artificially keep them immature, allow them grown-up status for some things as late as 21. Another nonensensical thing.
If someone says that a child of 10 isn't "ready" for sex education, it's actually the parents who are not ready for their child being sex-educated.
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posted January 15, 2012 06:04 PM |
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I agree with pretty much everything in this post. Well said, JJ. 
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posted January 15, 2012 06:49 PM |
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Discussion makes no sense since most people are biassed in terms of sexual education due to their own sexual education.
What exactly is the unbiased view in terms of sex education?
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It's bollocks to claim that sexual eduation would need a certain "maturity".
It is bullocks to claim that sexual education does not need a certain maturity level.
If someone says children of age 10 are ready for sex education its actually that they are fairly ignorant of life and parenting in particular. Children all have different levels of maturity. Unfortunately some people are ignorant of that fact. Parents are in the best position to determine when the child is ready. Not the State.
I realize liberals have good intentions in wanting kindergartners taught sex education but the good intentions of liberals in imposing their views on everyone usually result in destruction and such is the case in this issue.
I think anyone who says most parents are overprotective in this age is living on some other planet. Too many parents don't monitor what their children do on the internet or what they watch on TV or what their friends are like. Yeah, 10 year olds ARE immature. They have not ever reached puberty. Don't try to force them to be grown ups. Sure, some moronic laws have been passed, such as not allowing one to drink until age 21 but treating pre-teens like adults is idiotic.
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posted January 15, 2012 06:55 PM |
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Sex education was taught to children from the age of 13 when I was at school and I think that is about the right age. Secondary school age not primary school age in England. I also think the parents have a duty of care to their children to teach them about sex. My parents didn't go in to much detail about sex or menstration just the basics.
So you think it is ok for children as young as 10 to learn about sex in detail and to know how to put on condoms and learn about other contraception methods!! Why, when England it isn't legal for them to have sex till they are 16 and yes I know some children have sex early but at 10!!!
Well said Elodin, thank you.
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posted January 15, 2012 07:02 PM |
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it's probably better to be overprotective than force children to work in factories. I read that no so long ago, children weren't really considered like human beings? well by the law at least.
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posted January 15, 2012 07:04 PM |
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Knowledge comes from experience, to be taught something and not be able to use it, is nothing short of retarded. I'm a little mesmerised that there are people who consider sex education for children as a good thing.
If children were only taught the changes associated with puberty I'd be content with that, but that is very clearly not the case.
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Just a note incase you guys are incapable of absorbing a few lines of information. I do not believe a child will have sex as soon as he's taught how to do so or his intrest is peaked in the subject, I'm simply saying that it is asinine to teach a child something that he cannot utilize.
"Oh but he will be able to use it once he reaches the legal age" - you see where I'm going with this, right?
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posted January 15, 2012 07:22 PM |
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I would rather overprotect my children than for them to end up tied down with a baby that wasn't planned and ruining the rest of their lives. The boy can just say no thanks and disappear but the girl even if she doesn't keep the baby still has to live with the fact mentally and physically.
Have to pop in here and ask, isn't preventing unwanted kids one of the points of sex ed? 
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posted January 15, 2012 07:28 PM |
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Selcy, you are wrong about the age of consent. This is a regulation only for having sex with (significantly) OLDER people.
So in Emgland, age of consent 16, if a grown-up has sex with a 15-year-old (s)he is in trouble (in theory).
However, if BOTH are below the aoc, things are different.
Most countries do not punish having sex, but only manipulating underaged persons into it. So generally, if two 12-year-olds have sex - no problem, if done responsibly, as strange as this may sound.
(It's interesting to note that in most countries aoc is different for homosexual and heterosexual activities.)
For the rest, if you think Elodin made points that's entirely your right, even though I don't think that's helping your position.
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Aculias
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posted January 15, 2012 07:30 PM |
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How are ya going to teach kids when you keep holding their hands. They need to learn lessons & they need to learn how the world works as well.
We can teach them life & wrong & how we learn from our experience.
Of course we will always be protective, but there is a fine line between being protective 7 not letting your kids learn the real life.
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posted January 15, 2012 07:33 PM |
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Knowledge comes from experience, to be taught something and not be able to use it, is nothing short of retarded.
Question: How many things are wrong with this statement?
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posted January 15, 2012 07:36 PM |
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Explain why Joker? Besides the retarded part. I hate that word.
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posted January 15, 2012 07:42 PM |
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Actually JJ I live in England and even if both are under the age of 16 it is still illegal. The age of sexual consent is 16 and yes if someone is older, even 16 and has sex with someone under 16 even if 15 they have to sign the sex offenders record.
All I am going to say on this is I don't agree with my daughter having sex education at 10. At the end of the day I am a mother first and a mother in any species always protects their young to the best of their ability.
Acu yes maybe I have overprotected my children in the past as I didn't want them to make the same mistakes I did and they have been through a lot in the last 10+ years. I am learning to let them make mistakes as they are learning by the mistakes they make.
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posted January 15, 2012 07:52 PM |
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Hehe yea but all mother's are over protective. I understand. Many mother's are like that 
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posted January 15, 2012 07:57 PM |
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Aculias, I'm the optimistic type, so I'm fairly sure that with a bit of thinking you'll find a couple of things yourself that are quite wrong.
A bit of help:
Do you have knowledge outside of your experience?
Does school teach only things you can "immediately use"?
Is sex education teaching HOW TO HAVE SEX?
What about the teaching, "don't kill?"
Does the Tzar want to say that sex education would be way better when it was only for adolescents and with practical lessons - like driving lessons?
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posted January 15, 2012 08:08 PM |
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Actually JJ I live in England and even if both are under the age of 16 it is still illegal.
You cannot rape each other. So while it's technically illegal due to the fact that sexual actions with persons below the aoc are considered rape, it's also nonsensical in case BOTH are below the aoc - which is the reason why it's only enforced, if someone makes a fuss out of it.
By the way, it has nothing to do with that you live in England - yopu don't breathe the laws in with the air.
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posted January 15, 2012 08:14 PM |
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Minds are still fresh. Kids learn what they are taught. Kids learning sex education at 10 years old. They say they want kids to learn it so they can prevent the diseases etc.
They wont even know what sex is at that age until they are forced to learn it.
THEN THEY GET CURIOUS & want to know more about it.
The dumbest thing i ever heard.
Some kids think the boys & girls still have koodies lol.
That example may lead to other things like driving.
Many accidents comes from teens who think they are invincible & own the road.
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posted January 15, 2012 08:16 PM |
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Actually even if BOTH are under the age of 16 it is considered illegal it is only rape if not consented to.
There was a case where a 13 year old boy raped a 9 year old girl. Rape and sex are 2 different things.
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posted January 15, 2012 08:21 PM |
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Raping someone is when one person is forced to perform any kind of sex without consent.
It dont matter if your single digit aged or a horny viagra Fiend old fart.
Being illegal is the age difference if they both want sex or not.
If 15 is the age limit for a minor, then that is jail bait.
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