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Mentat
Mentat


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posted January 15, 2012 09:34 PM

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Children under the age of 16 must be restricted to have sex. They are not ready for it mentally and emotionally. Just make a lots of troubles what others must solve...
Not to mention the unwanted pregnancies. I don't understand that! When they were 13 they were educated about the sexuality and thought to use f***ed condoms for the sake of the long dead gods! Why don't they use then?
Little b@st@rds they are... They must be forced to raise their children not to left it for the girls to do it alone!

Well said Mentat on all counts.


I'm not a mother yet but have some logic. That's all you need to realise these truths...
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JollyJoker
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posted January 15, 2012 09:35 PM

Umm, people, we are talking about sex EDUCATION here, not about HAVING sex. Two different things.

Example:

You start telling kids about alcohol, the consequences of drinking it, warnings, and so on, but foremost the RESPONSIBLE USE IN CASE YOU DO IT.
That is obviously not the same thing as ALLOWING TO DRINK!

It means just to accept, that ADOLERSCENTS ARE PRONE TO MAKE THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES, and especially in "taboo areas", and to ACT ACCORDINGLY TO PREVENT HARM!!!

Humans are not supposed to OBEY, but to UNDERSTAND. If it was different qwe hadn't lost paradise in the first place, so let's not forget that.

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posted January 15, 2012 09:37 PM

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Humans are not supposed to OBEY, but to UNDERSTAND.


But since they DO NOT UNDERSTAND...
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Aculias
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posted January 15, 2012 09:37 PM

I have a daughter, and she is older than 12, and I can assure I would not have been unhappy if she had had sex with 12 (albeit I would have been very unhappy if she would have become pregnant.)

You said sex not sex ed, so naturally we said what we said.

With sex ed though I guess it is debatable.
Kids do learn the fears of diseases.
I also think they get more curious as well.
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selcy
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posted January 15, 2012 09:39 PM

A 10 year old is not an adolescent. An adolescent is a child in Secondary school age 11-18 not Primary school age 4-10.
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posted January 15, 2012 09:47 PM

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And even though it may be terrifying for you and emotionally shocking but when you thinking about anything you must be logical. Emotions are secondary after pure logic as emotions are instincts and a sane creature try to act logically as instinct often cause a quick end of everything...


just scary

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JollyJoker
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posted January 15, 2012 09:49 PM

Aculias, you are not only offending me, you put two different things together: this thing is about sex EDUCATION!
SELCY, started with having sex and becoming prgenant with 12 as part of her stance against sex ed, and I said, I wouldn't have had a problem IF my daughter have had sex age 12 (the reason is that I would have been fairly sure she would NOT be too immature if she had, because I have tried to "protect" her with a responsible education.)

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Aculias
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posted January 15, 2012 09:54 PM

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If you had a daughter, who you found out was having sex at 12 and was pregnant, I can assure you, you would not be happy.
Thde bold print is what you want to avoid with a responssible sex education. I have a daughter, and she is older than 12, and I can assure I would not have been unhappy if she had had sex with 12 (albeit I would have been very unhappy if she would have become pregnant.). She preferred not to have sex (not to mention getting pregnant), though, even though she could have - and note, that the law in Germany is way better than in Britain here. However, she didn't feel mature enough to have sex at that age, so she didn't have sex.
It may have played a role that she had certain standards with regard to her "first time", but STILL that's part of the deal - if you do not invest anything in sexual (that is actually DEVELOPMENT) education - where is the maturity suposed to come from?

In plain words: the bigger the difference is between the legal "age of consent" and the average age of physical maturity, the more the actual education to become a responsible grown-up lacks. Pregnancy is the consequence of ignorance, not immorality.



Ok then I will quote what ya said so you can read what you said yourself.
Insulting, I am simply replying to your reply.

Did Selcy mention 12 year old's first?
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted January 15, 2012 09:55 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 21:58, 15 Jan 2012.

If that's how your mindset opperates then it explains your angle muuuuuch better. That is ofcourse if your not simply trolling or arguing for arguments sake.
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selcy
selcy


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posted January 15, 2012 09:55 PM

I was actually talking about my 10 year old having sex education at school I never mentioned a 12 year old. I said I think 10 is too young roundabout 12/13 would be fine as she would then be in Secondary school.
If I am correct the state we will be moving to in America the legal age of consent is 18 so even older than in England.
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Elodin
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posted January 15, 2012 10:01 PM

Having sex with anyone under the age of consent is illegal even if you are under the age of consent as well. If one of the people is over the age of consent and one under it is considered rape. If both are under age it is not normally prosecuted, but it can be. If you are under the age of consent you are not considered to be competent to consent to sex.

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If you are physically able to do something you are also mature to do it.



You need to rethink your position.

Young children are able to physically have sex but are certainly not emotionally or mentally ready for sex. It is disheartening that some people think just because an 8 year old girl is capable of having sex that she is mature enough to have sex.

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Smithey
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posted January 15, 2012 10:14 PM

JJ's license has been revoked, Darkie will collect his children within 2 weeks....

You may continue the discussion...

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selcy
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posted January 15, 2012 10:18 PM

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JJ's license has been revoked, Darkie will collect his children within 2 weeks....

You may continue the discussion...


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JollyJoker
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posted January 15, 2012 10:23 PM

I was mentioning 12-years having sex to explain the law.

It was Meroe who started with having sex and BE PREGNANT.

By the way, there seem to be doubts about what "physically able to have sex" means. Some people seem to think that "physically able" is the same thing than  "not do die from it". That's not my definition, I seem to have to add to assure everyone that I don't condone sex with babies - in vain, it seems to be clear, since there can be no doubt I'm... a sicko.

Anyway, you have your opinion, I have mine.

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posted January 15, 2012 10:25 PM

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JJ's license has been revoked, Darkie will collect his children within 2 weeks....

You may continue the discussion...




*facepalms yet again*

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Aculias
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posted January 15, 2012 10:26 PM

Yea i know about the When you can bleed, then you can breed BS.
It does not mean it is right though.

It should never be right.

Sex at that age is always done for the wrong reasons.


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JollyJoker
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posted January 15, 2012 10:39 PM

Yeah, sure.

It's also wrong to support learning to walk, as soon you physically can, because once you can walk, you'll have a much bigger radius of influence, so-to-speak, so it's not okay to teach walking because the ability is there, but instead we must first make sure the babies have the maturity to use the ability.

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selcy
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posted January 15, 2012 10:39 PM

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JJ's license has been revoked, Darkie will collect his children within 2 weeks....

You may continue the discussion...




*facepalms yet again*

I could get use to this .

Yes Acu you are right sex and pregnancy has a big affect on a females body and if your not developed yet it can cause all sorts of issues later in life.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 15, 2012 10:41 PM

I'm in some parallel universe, I must be.

'big facepalm"

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Smithey
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posted January 15, 2012 10:49 PM

Havent read it all (I confess) but from what I understood...

JJ, you are saying that sexual education is a must at the age of 12 and that if your little girl were to have sex at 12 she would at least have smart sex hence you would be cool with her having sex... got it right ???

Now, me... sexual education is a must however I dont think it should be introduced before the age of 15-16, talking to 12 year old kids about sex and how it should be done is like introducing the idea into their minds and its not like a 12 year old actually comprehends the idea anyhow...

Who really thinks (raise your hands) that 12 year old's brain is developed enough to fully understand the consequences of sex ?

12 year olds are simply by default immature (biologically speaking - as in brain development) hence the idea of them actually having "smart sex" is ridiculous at best...

My child (when I get one of those little dudes) will be grounded untill she reaches the age of 16 if she thinks of having sex at that early stage however I do intend to explain everything there is to know about sex including to get her to talk to teenage moms and a bunch of other stuff...

To sum it all up, kids shouldnt be having sex before they're 15-16.. 12 year old having sex is equal to rape in my mind regardless of the age, parents "allowing" this should be revoked of their license

Older dudes trying to have sex with little kids should be revoked of their lives..

Whoever doesnt agree with me should also be revoked of their lives (excluding hot ladies) because I'm awesome
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