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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: The Serpent Cult: Reloaded
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Adrius
Adrius


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posted April 14, 2012 11:44 PM
Edited by Adrius at 23:45, 14 Apr 2012.

Yeah... 90% of the time spent on this faction was for searching artwork and editing it.

Really, really hard to find this stuff honestly... was quite frustrating trying to find something that fitted my vision.

You enjoyed the timeline? I found it kinda boring ^^
Then again the theme is much more enjoyable for me this time... yeah I might make a timeline.

Really happy to see an interest in fan-factions still btw... I was kinda worried that the whole H6 depression would cause a bit of a silence.
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Vindicator
Vindicator


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posted April 14, 2012 11:49 PM

I personally am extremely lazy, and so lost interest in making my faction.

Might restart it if I ever get in the mood, but I do enjoy reading other people's factions.
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xerox
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posted April 15, 2012 12:00 AM

Okay, here's an idea about Venoms.

This is what you have now:
Basic Venom: Deals damage over time. Serpentress can detonate for instant damage.

Advanced Venom: Deals more damage over time. Serpentress can detonate for instant damage.

Expert Venom: Deals even more damage over time. Serpentress can detonate for instant damage.

NIGHTMARE VENOM: Deals more damage over time than anything else. Serpentress can detonate for instant damage.

What if instead each of these creatures had a different venom?
One could have a Venom which reduces Defense, detonate to remove all defense for the turn.
One could increase enemy ability cooldowns, detonate to prevent enemies from using special abilities.
One could just deal damage like one.
And one could reduce speed, detonating immobilizes

There are lots of possibilites but I think it would make the faction a lot more fun.
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Adrius
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posted April 15, 2012 12:18 AM
Edited by Adrius at 00:18, 15 Apr 2012.

Hmm yeah... that is a very nice suggestion. Adds more depth without overcomplicating things.

I can think of several ways to further expand on that suggestion too... having unique Venomancy faction buildings that lets you customize your creatures with new venoms for example... yeah I'll do that. Badassery.

Back to the drawing board Man was I wrong when I thought I was done with this faction hahaha... I can't leave this kinda stuff unfinished...

Will probably update this majorly tomorrow.
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fauch
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posted April 15, 2012 12:38 AM
Edited by fauch at 00:39, 15 Apr 2012.

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Instantly I feel like the Cobra Warrior's abilities are pretty boring. Will change that up soon.


war dance combo is the 1st thing that comes to mind. with defiant you would have an all around retaliation attack at 200% damage, it could make the enemy think twice before attacking. btw, does he always retaliate when defiant is triggered? even if he used his retaliation already or was attacked by a no-retaliation unit?


retaliates to retaliation seems a lot like double attack, but it is weird, because it encourages you to take retaliations instead of avoiding them. oh maybe it's the point actually, it is the faction tank. I think the other way around would make more sense, you perform a 2nd attack only if the enemy didn't retaliate (failed to defend himself)

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Adrius
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posted April 15, 2012 12:46 AM

The idea I had about him was that he was supposed to be the guy that soakes up retaliation so that the less beefy serpents may inflict venom on enemies without suffering retaliation. Vengeance would encourage this strategy.

However, I feel like he is too retaliation focused, and I will switch up his abilities a bit.
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blizzardboy
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posted April 15, 2012 05:29 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 06:35, 15 Apr 2012.

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Back to the drawing board Man was I wrong when I thought I was done with this faction hahaha... I can't leave this kinda stuff unfinished...



Tell me about it, you lazy mother****er. You think you're done already?

I really think you could moderately add more info on the faction without making it a chore to read. The creatures and theme is extremely good - makes me want to fight them as a badass rival - but the content is still somewhat sparse. I feel like once you were done with the long process of getting the artwork to your liking, you prematurely ran to the finish line.

What do serpent worshipers like to do in their spare time? What's city life like? What are some odd habits / interesting lore about the creatures that isn't necessarily directly related to combat? What makes their kingdom unique? Who are some famous people in the kingdom besides the Mouth of God? Do they have any special allies or particular people that they really want to suffer? Does the snake fetish of the Mouth of God carry over into her private life? If the answer is yes (please be yes), pics?

That sort of thing. The juicy stuff that makes a faction come to life. You could sneak in a lot of that info through your faction's special buildings *COUGH* Jackass. *COUGH*, as well as in the lore related to your hero.

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MrDragon
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posted April 15, 2012 07:28 AM

Excellent work, in the hypothetical situation that this was a legit HoMM faction it would instantly be a contender for my favorite.
I love the flavour of the faction.
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Jiriki9
Jiriki9


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posted April 15, 2012 10:41 AM

Wow! Nice one!!!! =)

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Adrius
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posted April 15, 2012 02:26 PM

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I feel like once you were done with the long process of getting the artwork to your liking, you prematurely ran to the finish line.

Didn't actually think people would be interested in anything more

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Does the snake fetish of the Mouth of God carry over into her private life? If the answer is yes (please be yes), pics?

I do have a few more shooped pictures of her...

I have some things to do today but... will see what I can do. Looking forward to expanding this.
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moonshade
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posted April 15, 2012 03:44 PM

Serpent Cult and the Naga...

Pretty nice faction... But what's their relations with the other snake-related faction, the Naga?

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Adrius
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posted April 15, 2012 03:54 PM

Will be covering that in an upcoming Faction Relations section.
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blizzardboy
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posted April 15, 2012 09:28 PM

lol, it didn't even occur to me that not only did the Naga claim your spot, but they are also snakefolk.

Heroes 6 trolled you to the max.
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Adrius
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posted April 20, 2012 11:52 AM

This is gonna take a while cuz the changes I wanna make requires me to rewrite and re-shoop a whole lot of things.

I prefer making major updates rather than small updates that no one notices, so I'll get back to this in a few days hopefully.
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Adrius
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posted April 25, 2012 09:38 PM
Edited by Adrius at 21:42, 25 Apr 2012.

Updated!

- New creature abilities.
- New faction ability, Venomancy, and several new kinds of venoms to customize your Serpents with.
- Detonate is now a Racial Ability.
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Jiriki9
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posted April 30, 2012 11:49 AM

Am going to update the Shrine of Creation soon...would you want this faction in the list, the original one, or both?

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Adrius
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posted April 30, 2012 12:48 PM

Put this one in and remove the old one if you wish.
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Vindicator
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posted May 26, 2012 02:24 PM

Scumbag Adrius





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Adrius
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posted May 26, 2012 03:21 PM
Edited by Adrius at 16:02, 26 May 2012.

Motivation kinda suffers when I'm not getting any feedback.

I'm still working, I love this faction.

EDIT:

Added recent history and faction relations.
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Vindicator
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posted May 26, 2012 04:34 PM

Like the description for the necromancers, the Naga one gave me a grin as well; I like the whole hydration idea, never would have thought up that one myself.
I know how you feel about the whole feedback thing, that's probably why I lost interest in my faction, really glad to see that you're still working on it. Respect.
The only question I have is, what happened to the orcs?
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