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Heroes Community > MapHaven Guild > Thread: Lord of the rings (chinese)
Thread: Lord of the rings (chinese) This thread is 6 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 · «PREV / NEXT»
Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 22, 2012 04:13 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 17:53, 22 Jun 2012.

You will lose all of them later. Right now 6-7 AI roaming in MY land, can't kill none. Guess I will give up again.

Interesting: after reload twice, AI dragons went for tent, and from there was super easy because I could keep griffins shield. So could finish battle with minor loses. I hate orb of inhibition...



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Biobob
Biobob


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the Bobler
posted June 22, 2012 06:26 PM
Edited by Biobob at 18:28, 22 Jun 2012.

Is it possible that Implosion is not reflectable? I just tried on Dace with Magic Mirror, it seems to never work...

Good job, by the way

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 22, 2012 06:45 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:49, 22 Jun 2012.

Dace is easy, finally. Stupid code in AI programs will ignore counterstrike if your side has only one stack. He will not cast it if only dragons alive.

1) Cast quick sand
2) Cast disrupting ray until def to zero
3) Resurrect one pegassi every turn to take retaliate
4) Done



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Biobob
Biobob


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the Bobler
posted June 22, 2012 07:49 PM
Edited by Biobob at 19:50, 22 Jun 2012.

I have already tried Mage + Pegasus + Dragon and Scorps using Quicksand. I cant win the sp race, I've even tried taking familiars too
But I think these tactics are not the right path; in most chinese maps intelligence is only given to the enemy if the mapmaker doesnt want him to be drained out.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 22, 2012 07:53 PM

Doesn't matter. Dace will cast a few cures and that's all.

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Biobob
Biobob


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the Bobler
posted June 22, 2012 08:41 PM

Now I saw your solution, very nice! It's too bad that it doesnt work for me, since I have not enough blacks. On what day did you do that fight?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 22, 2012 08:50 PM

Month 5.  After disrupting ray I can kill 320 minos/hit, so up to you to attack when you have enough spell points too.

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Biobob
Biobob


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the Bobler
posted June 22, 2012 09:29 PM
Edited by Biobob at 22:39, 22 Jun 2012.

I think I rushed too much, I attack Black Dragon man late month 2...

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Salamandre
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posted June 22, 2012 10:59 PM

Long time feared, Moandor passed out



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Salamandre
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posted June 23, 2012 04:11 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 08:02, 23 Jun 2012.

Zydar is gone, after a 2 hours fight. Tried several setups, got beat every time by his armageddon until I took blacks, they killed all but titans. Used archery specialist, as Crag Hack couldn't even scratch him.

Phoenixes blocked titans for the whole game, antimagic on enchanters, got a lot of luck, he had bad morale at RIGHT time, then got him. Lost all phoenixes still. With archery specialist level 40 I could kill 22 titans/turn only.





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Biobob
Biobob


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posted June 23, 2012 12:03 PM

I dont know the exact setup, but it seems to me that he is, aside from the titans, a weak enemy. So, why dont you take one killer stack to take out enemies and catapult (block titans during that time) and then just wait for him to get out of shots?

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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


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posted June 23, 2012 01:20 PM

Huh, Crag couldn't scratch him...that said means a lot.
I suppose he has high defense and maybe armorer, beside titans supreme stats.
Personally I find titans are extremely tough to deal with in many cases.

Good luck
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 23, 2012 04:28 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 16:35, 23 Jun 2012.

Chineses can make now a little wog in sod, they can change specialties, dunno how. My battle mage starts with offense specialty, my necro with sorcery, I figure Zydar is armorer specialist, as shown in the picture: I barely scratch him at close combat (with Crag level 42!):



Brute force is useless against him, must do it smart. If you need 14 AA to take out 2 golds, how many you need to take out 500 titans...

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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


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posted June 23, 2012 04:46 PM

He-he
That reminds me Pirelli tyres commercial slogan:
"The power is NOTHING without control"
Nice control here, thought
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 23, 2012 05:12 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 17:16, 23 Jun 2012.

Did I mentioned the guy has armageddon blade, sorcery, SP 99, orb of fire and immune to blind? The perfect fighter/caster in one.

My first tactic was to hypnotize his efreets (because immune to fire) and block titans with. Does not work, shooters can shoot if hypnotized unit "blocks". Seems it is still their creature, doesn't matter, tactic useless. Besides this, he casts dispel every 2 rounds.


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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted June 23, 2012 05:34 PM

Quote:
If you need 14 AA to take out 2 golds, how many you need to take out 500 titans...


I guess Quite a Lot

Quote:

My first tactic was to hypnotize his efreets (because immune to fire) and block titans with. Does not work, shooters can shoot if hypnotized unit "blocks". Seems it is still their creature, doesn't matter, tactic useless. Besides this, he casts dispel every 2 rounds.




Nope Sir. It never worked like this.
Dispel is damned weapon in AI's hands it will ruins many good tactics.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 23, 2012 05:52 PM

Indeed

Ok, the map may be possible, as every battle had one solution so far, but I really don't enjoy it. Aside from reloading 50 times for every action, mapmaker obsession to give x10 more army than all others, story inexistent, it just drains all your energy along with little reward.

Here is last save, if anyone wants to compare or check out what's about.

Mephala

Last battle can be done, but you have to wait her waste 500 mana, which will take 3 hours with pegassis damper. Not for me.

At least when I play wog, I am aware of changes and have a read me text related. But sod with changed abilities and custom battle terrain is just weird, you have to go to check every battle location, then reload and do different setup.

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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted June 23, 2012 06:14 PM

That's why they are over 1 billion
Still they are wise people(Chinese) in their way.
Still their maps are not for wide use I think.
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Biobob
Biobob


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the Bobler
posted June 24, 2012 07:33 PM
Edited by Biobob at 22:37, 24 Jun 2012.

By now, I have finished Black Dragon man, using the following tactics

Use offense hero, place your troops like this, and reload until BD attacks ballista, then rearrange upper genie one step left, and lower ones in a straight line, covering the Blacks. Shoot upper Cerberi. Next round, the BD attacks your Straight line, you shoot 2nd cerberi, and they attack (correct cerberi numbers by Angels or Dragons)


It should look like this: (I did the fight many times, thats why the angels number is not correct with the next one, just need to be lucky with cerberi numbers)


After some tries, you have only very little loss


Now moving to Dace, but I already found out how to kill him...

PS.: Just defeated Dace, it was indeed easy:

Army: 1 Familiar, 1 Arch Mage, 4 Silver Pegasi split, 1 Black Dragon
+ ~600 Spell Points

1) Arrange 4 Silver Pegasi in a row, leaving 3 spots open to both sides.
2) Fill battlefield with quicksand.
3) Remove Pegasi to some other place.
4) Kill enemy with land mine.

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Salamandre
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posted June 25, 2012 03:21 AM

You follow 100%  the chinese screens, which I didn't. I dared to look at their solutions after I made all those battles. Anyway, it is good there is not only one solution for each battle.

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