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Heroes Community > MapHaven Guild > Thread: Lord of the rings (chinese)
Thread: Lord of the rings (chinese) [ This thread is 6 pages long: 1 2 3 4 (5) 6 ]
BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted June 28, 2012 11:11 PM

About the map, I couldn't even remember last map which took me more than 12 months to finish it. And I don't play anything but custom XL on impossible, but this one?
13 months - where are you roam sooo looong...Just kidding as I know your game skills are excellent.
I will try this map one day but not now, sorry for that dude.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Undefeatable Hero
posted June 28, 2012 11:15 PM

It is longer than other maps because mapmaker wants to completely eliminate possibility of hit&run, so several towns are placed at 7 days walk each from other. The problem when playing first time is that you don't know what setup you will need for that town to win, so my main went to, then had to wait 1 week several times for secondary heroes to bring other army setup. Without this, would be 10 months or so.

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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted June 28, 2012 11:24 PM

Sure, usually when I replay such a maps my aim is to win as fast as I can and as result final battle comes 2-3 months better...most of the times
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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted June 28, 2012 11:39 PM

In any cases congrats to the mapmaker, I saw many interesting fights from your pics and he must be top-notch model how to make wonderful maps.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 28, 2012 11:48 PM

You know him:

Season

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Aquamarine
Aquamarine


Adventuring Hero
posted July 04, 2012 12:31 PM

"本图属于娱乐性质,难度不大"  ---  Season the mapmaker

本        this

图        map

属于      is

娱乐      fun

性质      nature

难度      difficulty

不大      little

the sentence means that this map is for fun and not even hard....

well I've to say Chinese highly-skilled H3 players enjoy extreme challenges.....simply because we are clever and patient, perhaps

Some even much tougher map, will you love it?  But exclude me, I am not very highly-skilled

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Undefeatable Hero
posted July 04, 2012 02:47 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 22:40, 04 Jul 2012.

By tougher you mean more army, more immunities, even more distance between towns, more aggressive AI popping in our land. If so, I wouldn't play a tougher map because the issue is mainly a time problem. I don't enjoy 100 reloads to each battle, as chinese do -see Bird advices on Way Home and Wayfarer-. It is not a matter of patience, but free time well used.

Take for example The Legend of Heroes. AI bosses are given 20 level 7 every day + other minor stuff. We know that the only way to beat that is to teleport a stack behind a blinded creature then start casting titan bolt at no cost. It will take about 2-3 hours to get rid of them. Or get berserk, which is a cheat in my eyes. I can't spend 3 hours for a battle, then 6 more like that.

Besides this, my interest for SoD lowered a lot over time, I am looking more for role playing rich maps or campaigns, which can be achieved with WoG only, see Atlantis/300 spartans like. From time to time I play some regular map, but just out of curiosity.

That's why there is no best map, but players various tastes.

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Galileo
Galileo


Known Hero
posted July 10, 2012 01:15 PM

I downloaded the map yesterday (and I think I'm never going to finish it because I'm not an expert in h3). Actually, I saw the map much before, but I didn't belive it was really Lord of the Rings. Just look at the minimap!
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Galileo
Galileo


Known Hero
posted July 19, 2012 01:14 PM

OK, I can say two things about this map. First: it is the hardest H3 map I ever played. Second: it is one of two best maps for vanilla h3 I ever played.

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Morokei
Morokei

Tavern Dweller
posted November 06, 2012 07:18 PM

Hi all!

I'm playing this map for some time now and I still haven't found a way to survive for more than two weeks...

Have you got some hints on how to beat Neela on week 2 day 1?

What I tried:

Day 5: get angels, attack arch mages, take monastery and gold, conquer town, build mage guild and rest for spell points.


Quote:
I choosed to kill the Scorps right when I took the 2 angels, which allowed me to kill the faerie one day later (now I know it was intended to kill Scorps), after that I went for the right path, when Neela turned up. Luckily she went up to my castle, where I was able to catch her up in time.


I use 4 pikemen to save the angels vs faerie dragon. finally there is usually no time to refill the spell points and you can't afford a citadel.

If you attack hydras and ogres, you can build a citadel, but must fight Day 8 with the weaker magic arrow

With the archangel: Attack faerie dragon day 6 and hydras. You have 18 zealots, 38 marksmen and some single griffins as cannon fodder.

Result of day 8 to 9 is always the same: Neela attacks castle and her titans win the battle -.-


I also tried to play for the hillfort and get two archangels. Then Neela gets the extra hero and rest in the town until the time is over.


I'd really appreciate some more details on this part!

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Undefeatable Hero
posted November 06, 2012 08:06 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:08, 06 Nov 2012.

I recall I used magic hero vs Neela and killed titans with a few magic arrows, combined with cure on archangels. This battle should be won with very few casualties, use angels to resurrect the archers before is done. Castle should be done day 7. Neela is cake walk, compared with what will come week 4.

Map is requiring too many reloads, as every chinese map.
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evinin
evinin


Supreme Hero
Servant of Asha
posted November 07, 2012 12:56 PM

I've read the thread about the map. I'm not a very good Heroes III player so I can't play it but it was a joy to read it and look at the pictures of the battles. It looks genius.
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Morokei
Morokei

Tavern Dweller
posted November 07, 2012 08:59 PM

Thank you Salamandre, worked like you said.
Give archangel to 2nd hero to kill hydras and you have enough time to collect the ore and return to town.

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The_new_guy
The_new_guy


Hired Hero
posted February 23, 2013 07:56 AM

One of the best maps around. Recommended to any strong player as a test of a skill. almoust every battle is a puzzle, you have to solve, somtimes in a very unusual  way. Definetly very hard and consumes a lot of time but its worth it. Done it in 97 days and it sure can be finished earlier.


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quocdung
quocdung

Tavern Dweller
posted March 04, 2013 10:42 AM

Quote:
One of the best maps around. Recommended to any strong player as a test of a skill. almoust every battle is a puzzle, you have to solve, somtimes in a very unusual  way. Definetly very hard and consumes a lot of time but its worth it. Done it in 97 days and it sure can be finished earlier.



I think you told a lie
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quocdung
quocdung

Tavern Dweller
posted March 04, 2013 11:22 AM

Quote:
I recall I used magic hero vs Neela and killed titans with a few magic arrows, combined with cure on archangels. This battle should be won with very few casualties, use angels to resurrect the archers before is done. Castle should be done day 7. Neela is cake walk, compared with what will come week 4.

Map is requiring too many reloads, as every chinese map.


Hi,
I think there is bug in the Map. I can't cast blind and forgetfulness to gunnar ( orange heroes).
How do you kill Gunnar?
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Undefeatable Hero
posted March 04, 2013 11:40 AM

Forget about forgetfulness and blind in such maps: almost all AI heroes wear either pendants or badge of courage.

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quocdung
quocdung

Tavern Dweller
posted March 04, 2013 12:25 PM

Quote:
Forget about forgetfulness and blind in such maps: almost all AI heroes wear either pendants or badge of courage.

Ho do you kill gunnar? He has a lot of Naga Queen and he has teleport so the happy hag will be die.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Undefeatable Hero
posted March 04, 2013 12:53 PM

I don't remember man, played this map months ago. Show a screen and maybe someone recalls that fight.

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The_new_guy
The_new_guy


Hired Hero
posted March 08, 2013 09:00 AM

Quote:
I think you told a lie






About Gunnar - after i defeated Malekith i restored my manas and entered his town, then Gunnar attacked me. He doesnt have teleport basically so you only have do destroy his catapult and survive untill his shooters run out of shoots. Use phoenixes and summon elementals to do so.

Here is a screen from map editor just in case you say i'm a liar again. Gunnar DOESNT HAVE teleport.


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