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Thread: Lord of the rings (chinese) [ This thread is 6 pages long: 1 (2) 3 4 5 6 ]
Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted June 16, 2012 08:14 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:22, 16 Jun 2012.

Ah ok, I had the feeling you did all this with the starting 2 angels. Shortly you will receive visit of a wizard (700 archimages, 100 nagas and 40 titans), good luck with that one, and when  the necro joined the fun, I just gave up.

I wonder how to kill the guy with 175 hydras and 6000 magogs, without forgetfulness. Seems to me it must be a trick of placement, where magogs can't shoot, but still those hydras deal a deadly damage. No solution so far.

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Corribus
Corribus

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posted June 16, 2012 08:40 PM

I thought you were done with this map, Sal.
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Salamandre
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posted June 16, 2012 09:48 PM

Of course, gave up several weeks ago and posted angry message

Still I am curious how one can win it, it is too hard for me.

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heroes_player
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posted June 17, 2012 02:54 AM

I think that Aquamarine can walkthrough this map..

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Biobob
Biobob


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posted June 17, 2012 03:52 AM
Edited by Biobob at 05:53, 17 Jun 2012.

What I think about hydra-man: After you beat Boragus, you get blind from Synca, then you can engage him. Then all you need to do is blinding hydras, then positioning your harpies in front of two magog stacks, and they wont dare to attack you (of course the lower ones, otherwise they will run and then shoot). Problem is, 400 is not that a big number. Possibly the magogs will shoot right from the start, isgnoring the losses. But I think its the right path, otherwise you couldnt beat the guy, casting counterstrike every round...

Im curious about Theodorus too. Brut for now I think you have to rush for Blind, and with that, TP.

How did you defeat Aenein by the way? 88 Magics + Implosion seems impossible, since you've got no Anti-Magic or Protection. And Black Dragons alone seems to little for me...

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Salamandre
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posted June 17, 2012 08:16 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 08:18, 17 Jun 2012.

The blacks on the way will join, put all others in the mine nearby. As usual the battle terrain is special, again.

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Biobob
Biobob


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posted June 17, 2012 03:30 PM

Just did the fight against Hydra. Worked like I thought, Harpies to blinded Hydras, the attacking. Theodorus didn't show up yet, now I need to get 4th hero.

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Salamandre
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posted June 17, 2012 03:41 PM

Good work! the solution was obvious still I did not see it. Maybe I will give it another try now that I know what to do with Hydra man.

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Biobob
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posted June 17, 2012 05:35 PM
Edited by Biobob at 17:36, 17 Jun 2012.

How did you exactly kill Aenain (dont want to reload later on)? I still dont really get it, since I lost all but one of my blackies during the fight (and even had to take harpies with me, also big loss), which seems to be a too big loss... and terrain wasnt all too usefull...

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Salamandre
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posted June 17, 2012 06:42 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 18:46, 17 Jun 2012.

The blacks before him are set to join, I had about 20 in all, I used 6x1 royal griffins for retaliate and lure, and of course, offense guy, not the sorcery one. Lost one black.

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Biobob
Biobob


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posted June 18, 2012 02:55 AM

That may be the problem, I have only 14 Blacks.

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Salamandre
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posted June 19, 2012 03:46 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 06:12, 19 Jun 2012.

2.2.5, I have 22 blacks and 6 royal griffins, got him with no black loss:



Now I am struggling with Theodorus, this guy is tough. I can kill him, but I will lose half army. It depends on manticores ability to disable archimages, he is immune to blind, and I am tired of reloading until ability works. All I can is town portal between cities, run away and gather more army until it is sufficient, but this is far from how I see a good map, run in circles. And no mana vortex around, damnt.


 

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Biobob
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posted June 19, 2012 02:32 PM

If you manage to lure him to the hillfort, it should be possible, but 3 shooter stacks is too hard...

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Salamandre
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posted June 19, 2012 08:03 PM

Got him two weeks later, had to bring 18 behemots in, then wait he waste his mana, then resurrect all.



Now there is a necro with 300 dragons, 600 knights and 800 liches running around. That one I have to avoid.

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Salamandre
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posted June 21, 2012 12:29 AM

About 1 hour to complete this battle. Reload is chinese specialty. Oh well, I passed now.



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Warmonger
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posted June 21, 2012 01:06 AM

ROFL, this strategy feels quite risky
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Salamandre
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posted June 21, 2012 01:15 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 01:48, 21 Jun 2012.

No other way, 1500 red would obliterate my tiny army in 2 turns. The key is to entangle all dragons first turn with a max of 2 mantis dead, then cast bless and slayer. From there it is a matter of luck, resurrect mantis every turn and hope the ratio entangle/resurrect remains equal. It gets easier later, with harpies killing 125 reds/turn.

Each battle in this map is a puzzle. Some of them I can't figure out yet, looks impossible. Dace is next, he has 2100 minos with 11 speed in one stack, all stats 99, implosion, all mass spells and blind immune. Seer giving antimagic asks for...Dace death. No idea how to defeat him, tried different combinations, nothing works.

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Salamandre
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posted June 21, 2012 04:28 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 04:57, 21 Jun 2012.

Next puzzle: he has low stats (6-6) but orb of inhibition and no morale/luck arties. 50 archangels on my side. Somehow must find the right placement. Harpies and archangels can kill 28x2 dragons/turn.
In theory, I mean, because right now not working



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Maciek
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posted June 21, 2012 06:27 PM

28 Blacks per hit? That means you can kill more than half a Cerberi stack per hit. So you can quickly reduce 2 stacks of Cerberi and then use them to shield you from Blacks. In theory, at least

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Biobob
Biobob


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posted June 22, 2012 10:08 AM
Edited by Biobob at 10:08, 22 Jun 2012.

I've managed (finally) to beat Aenain (without + loss): Had to do a lot of optimizing, it's possible to conquer castle w1 and dungeons 1 and 2 w2. So I had 18 Black Dragon after all, and lost only one during the fight. Which city did you take first, Stronghold or Rampart? I went for Strong first.

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