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Demonge
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posted July 20, 2012 01:45 AM

Knowing Ubisoft from H5, H6 and HK, what I see coming is one DLC for each faction (so 5) and then, after that, the release of an 'Expansion' pack that would very possibly gather the 5 previous DLC (so ~10 maps in 5 campaigns) plus a new faction as exclusive content (and an associated campaign, maybe 4 maps).

That would be very Ubisoft.
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posted July 20, 2012 02:58 AM

That is not the case here.
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posted July 20, 2012 05:01 AM

I highly doubt that they can find that many legacy chars. Crag and Sandro are loved to bits by the fans, but I cannot think of either a demon or a naga that has the same status.
And every Elf, Wizard or Warlock will have to wait for those factions to be released.
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Demonge
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posted July 20, 2012 07:08 AM

I can:
- Haven: Roland or Catherine
- Inferno: Agrael or Biara
- Sanctuary: not necessarily a naga; could be a H3 Fortress wink hero, like Tazar (but still, can't stand the comparison with Crag/Sandro, I know that)

Elvin: I'm glad to read that, and happy to be proven wrong!
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posted July 20, 2012 07:15 AM

I'll give you Roland and Catherine, but then again I never claimed there being problems of finding legacy chars for Haven.
I highly doubt Agreal and Biara can be justified as being legacy chars, with only their appearance in Heroes V. Also, Agreal is already in Heroes VI as his former and later self as Realag.
And with Tazar already in, only Bron remains as a Fortress Hero to return. Which presents the problem of it being justified to count him as a legacy Char and I don't particularly find him fitting into Sanctuary. Not without introducing Basilisks, and with the existence of Lizardmen heavily implied, I'd hate to see them wasted on Sanctuary.
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posted July 20, 2012 07:21 AM

I don't think they'd touch Roland or Catherine, that probably wouldn't work very well. Crag and Sandro are more like symbols whereas the former have a complex history behind them that's best left in the old world. Biara might have worked if most people did not hate her with a burning passion () and Agraelag probably has a long way to go before he becomes a demon cultist. Ironically he would be a warlock so no change in his transition to inferno It occurs to me that as inferno he was might because H5 lacked a magic class for the faction. Truth be told I would welcome a campaign during which he switches class..
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posted July 20, 2012 07:27 AM

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I highly doubt Agreal and Biara can be justified as being legacy chars, with only their appearance in Heroes V. Also, Agreal is already in Heroes VI as his former and later self as Realag.



Hence the smiley (maybe not the proper one, I agree)

However, you're right. Unless Ubi thinks of some trick (like Atlas in Sanctuary).
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posted July 20, 2012 07:32 AM

Xeron I quite liked but frankly I want a sovereign campaign. He deserves one, his role seemed too minor in the original H6..
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posted July 20, 2012 07:38 AM

A rise of the Demon Sovereign campain might well do.
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posted July 20, 2012 07:48 AM

A classy demon overlord can't go wrong.
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posted July 20, 2012 09:56 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 09:58, 20 Jul 2012.

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I hope it the second DLC isn't as big of a ripoff as the first one.


Don't forget who owns the series now. Unfortunately I think that will give you your answer.



I knoe companies, many companies, which have similar or better position on the market and treat their Games and Customers in a far wors way. Ubi has a lot to lern but it is not the pure evil as many people describe it here.

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This Meme has been made after this years E3 convention. It cam show you what the generel Idea and opinion about Ubis is in the US.


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posted July 20, 2012 11:56 AM

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I hope it the second DLC isn't as big of a ripoff as the first one.


Don't forget who owns the series now. Unfortunately I think that will give you your answer.



I knoe companies, many companies, which have similar or better position on the market and treat their Games and Customers in a far wors way. Ubi has a lot to lern but it is not the pure evil as many people describe it here.

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This Meme has been made after this years E3 convention. It cam show you what the generel Idea and opinion about Ubis is in the US.




Yes, I know there are far worse offenders, but that doesn't make what Ubi does right either.

As for the general perception of Ubisoft, that's because most people think of them as the company that put out games like Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, and the Tom Clancy series. No one, besides us, associate Ubi with Heroes. Hell, most gamers probably don't even know Heroes.

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posted July 20, 2012 12:19 PM

@ KingImp: I dont know which part of world you are from, but in my homeland more people do know what heroes is rather then Hallo, or Tom Clancy series as you wrote. So it is only a matter of location and used machines. For example if Sega had the worst DRM system and policy in the world most of my frainds would not notic this due to the fact that consoles are not that common here.

Might and Magic is still a very strong brand. It is not the headliner for ubi and therefor it is treated the way it is, but it is IMHO wrong to say that when they talk ubi they do not mean heroes. For example AC is now under the same roof as Heroes VI if you take it from the Uplay poit of view.
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posted July 20, 2012 01:28 PM

The naga are three races: deep, coral and other one. Is the other one known? Could it be bipedal and link the Sanctuary with the Fortress?

Well, even if i missed something they could put anyone with a sea related story with the naga. Tawni from H4 comes to my mind right now

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posted July 20, 2012 02:06 PM

They already did the pirate themed DLC.

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posted July 20, 2012 03:50 PM

The third Naga species is not yet known, nothing in-game or cannon has been released other than the knowledge that there is a third Naga species.
The to be released Ashan Compendium may change that.
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posted July 20, 2012 03:55 PM

I think Yume is of the third kind. Reptilian yet the human features are more prevalent compared to the coral ones.
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posted July 20, 2012 06:40 PM

these should be of the third kind too



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posted July 20, 2012 10:26 PM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 22:27, 20 Jul 2012.

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They already did the pirate themed DLC.


Yeah but it could have her and not be "ARGHHH pirates". She could be a former queen piratess that got saved by the naga and ended up becoming a "Lord" or something like that and acts as a corsair for the Empress (mind you that given the naga culture, naga corsairs would probably in name and job only)

Note that I only mentioned her because she was the first to come in my mind. Maybe they could pull someone from H3 Conflux. Probably he/she wont be very recognized but its something I guess

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The third Naga species is not yet known, nothing in-game or cannon has been released other than the knowledge that there is a third Naga species.
The to be released Ashan Compendium may change that.


The coral priestess decription says that thry're 3 naga species. Does the compendium have a release date? Or a ETA at least?

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I think Yume is of the third kind. Reptilian yet the human features are more prevalent compared to the coral ones.


I imagine that, but if necessary they could just say that some coral naga have normal hair and that the 3rd race are the lizardman. All this in a hypothetical case of course (one that I wouldn't prefer)

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posted July 21, 2012 05:45 AM

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The coral priestess decription says that thry're 3 naga species. Does the compendium have a release date? Or a ETA at least?

The compendium was released yesterday according to Amazon UK, they should send me my copy today or monday, so with any luck I'll be able to tell if it provides an answer within the week.
As far as the Coral Naga being the third species goes, that may be the case, but that still leaves us with one of the three unknown to us. I tend to count the Deep and the Coral Naga as the first 2, leaving the unknown as the third.
As for Yume being of the third species, that is possible. Her Bio neither confirms nor denies it. However, she and Akasha(who is without a doubt a Deep Naga) have produced a child. And if the Naga species are able to interbreed that says nothing, but if they are not, that makes her a Deep Naga as well. Again, this is as much speculation as friend Elvin's assumption.
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