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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Lvl 7 creatures ranking
Thread: Lvl 7 creatures ranking
RMS
RMS


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posted March 13, 2002 04:34 AM

Lvl 7 creatures ranking

Ok, at his request, I have just copied over a post from my own forums over to here, originally posted by our...um, strategy expert, and we were wondering if anyone knew how to do any calculations to figure out this eternal mystery, or just express opinions or whatever...

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ok this may be huge, here are my results, i well tell you what i did how i did it, and if you think any part is incorrect, PLEASE respond.

okay, i imagined it was a nice day, as month 2 started. the level 7 was hired, and all 8 heroes met on a common island. there they advanced to level 23.. this being all the non-magic heroes

i let the following heroes represent each town:
Sorsha - castle - knight
Ryland - rampart - ranger
Josephine - Tower - alchemist
Bron - fortress - beastmaster
Shiva - stronghold - barbarian
Dace - dunguon - overlord
Tamika - necro - deathknight
Octavia - inferno - demonic

5-week3, 7-week2, 9-week1 = key
*only skills relating to battle are mentioned

sorsha had 10/10/3/5 = attack/defense/spell power/knowledge, leadership, offense, armor, tactics == 5 AAs

ryland - 7/11/5/5 - offense, leadership, armor, luck ==7 Gold dragons

Josephine - 7/7/7/7 - archery, offense, luck == 7 Titans

Bron - 7/12/3/4 - armor == 7 chaos hydras

Shiva - 14/7/3/4 - offense, armor ==9 ancient behamoths

Dace - 8/10/4/6 - offense, tactics == 5 black dragons

tamika - 7/7/7/7 - offense == 7 ghost dragons

octavia - 8/10/4/5 - 5 Arch devils

now to the battles!

AA's lost to ancient behamoths, titans
alternate posible outcomes: gold dragons, black dragons, where AAs got 1 morale bonus in middle of combat

Gold dragons lost to AA, titans, ancients
alternate posible outcomes: black dragons - gold got 1 luck shot closer to the end

Titans lost to no one
alternate posible outcomes: chaos hydras(1st shot had luck, later had another luck shot towards the end), ancients (1 luck shot middle melee), black dragons (1 luck shot in middle)

Chaos hydras lost to everything except black dragons
alternate posible outcomes: titans had 2 luck shots mentioned above, ghost dragons aged the hydras 3 times, arch devils had an additional attack (1 morale bonus)

ancient behamoths only lost to titans
alternate posible outcomes: titans had 1 luck shot somewhere

Black dragons lost to everything except ghost dragons
alternate posible outcomes: angels had a morale bonus mid fight, but so did black dragons AFTER the angels, gold dragons got lucky 1 time, titans had extra shot(morale), arch devils got bonus swing after the 1st strike.

ghost dragons lost to everything except the hydras, which they aged 3 times (first then once worn off, aged again, worn off, then aged again)
alternate posible outcomes: nothing unfair

arch devils lost to arch angels, gold dragons and titans
alternate posible outcomes: got extra attack on hydras

attacking:
AAs went first as always, and always led the first hit
Arch Ds went first when posible, but waited on ancients and hydras
black dragons always attacked the first chance they got
gold dragons always attacked the first chance they got
ghost dragons always attacked the first chance they got
titans always attacked and waited on ancients and hydras
ancients always attacked, or moved on titans/arch devils
hydras always attacked or moved on titans/arch devils/ancients
fair or unfair?

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Shadowstormed
Shadowstormed


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posted March 13, 2002 08:00 AM

i would say fair, thats a long post
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Lord_Echo
Lord_Echo


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posted March 13, 2002 02:30 PM

yeah its preatty fair!
since the anicent behemoths did good
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ShadowLord
ShadowLord


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posted March 13, 2002 06:40 PM

The titans didn't seem to be weak there just because of their number!
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Hexa
Hexa


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posted March 24, 2002 05:01 PM

toP!@

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Slash
Slash

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posted March 24, 2002 05:28 PM

Maybe I missed something?

Yeah i bet Titans would beat black dragons lol. Black Dragons Have higher damgage attack defense and speed not to mention the "hate" bonus on both sides which would be on the black dragons first strike. Saying they only beat Ghost Dragons? Now maybe I missed something cause all the replies said it was fair and i admittedly did skim that novel of a post?! I bet ur all tower players. I still dont get how people like Titans so much. They are great for killin lower levels,but analyze the numbers, cost of each and real gameplay setting and i assure you the dragons will come out on top. YOu set up this lil fantasy with might heroes but really i doubt any self respecting dungeon player would not use the armegeddon B. Dragon combo. I kinda rambled on so ill summerize: BLACK DRAGONS OWN TITANS!
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armor shining in the sun
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted March 24, 2002 05:40 PM

Heh? is there different # of creatures in some battles?

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Camelnor
Camelnor


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Also known as Blue Camel
posted March 25, 2002 06:06 AM

Yeah, I think the guy who did it didnt do it very officially/proffesionally/right ... (who did it again RMS?)
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ShadowLord
ShadowLord


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posted March 25, 2002 07:40 PM

Quote:
BLACK DRAGONS OWN TITANS!


Yeah... But ARCHDEVILS OWNS THE BLACK DRAGONS (They are my Dragon Slayers)!
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sos
sos


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posted March 25, 2002 09:03 PM

to RMS

you must be kidding right?
7 goldies and 5 AD? I would rank devils second easiest to get after behemoths. They require only 23 mercury, compared to 34 crystalls for greens. I have played very few random maps on 160% where I didnt get devils week 2 or 3. And Octavia without offense or armorer? What did she get, eagle eye lol?

Everyone knows how level 7 do against each other.
AA beats everyone except AB with high level heroes.
AD beats everyone except AA and AB with high level heroes (AD does better against AB than AA tho)
AB will beat everyone except maybe Titan

and so on

All this matter very little in a real battle tho since you almost never have 1 on 1 battles

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