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posted May 14, 2019 11:23 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 18:07, 15 May 2019.

I'm not watching the show (only seen a few episodes from the first season) but in the books the Red Wedding was more than expected. Rob is/was an idiot and Martin built the background for his demise quite obviously. At least he was a believable character with his his brain-evaporating teenage romantic afflictions, unlike Daenerys' nigh annoying  portrayal from a shy, confused girl to some genius mistress who leads armies, rules cities, commands dragons and f*cks with every second man or woman around her... all before the age of 14 or some such. There are a lot of nonsense, plot devices and twists for the sake of twists in the books despite the great storytelling qualities of the author so I suppose the TV series have inherited some or all of them.

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posted May 14, 2019 11:37 PM

Zenofex said:
I'm not watching the show (only see a few episodes from the first season) but in the books the Red Wedding was more than expected.


Yeah, easy to say after you've already seen it

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posted May 15, 2019 03:30 AM

I kinda saw the Red Wedding coming. I didn't expect it at the scope that it was, but I knew something was gonna happen.
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posted May 15, 2019 06:17 AM

One has to wonder if it is really wise to visit the house of the man whose daughter you denied. With your new wife.
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posted May 15, 2019 09:26 AM
Edited by blob2 at 11:25, 15 May 2019.

Elvin said:
One has to wonder if it is really wise to visit the house of the man whose daughter you denied. With your new wife.


Before this there was something called "the rule of hospitality" (can be read as: do not kill your guests in your own home). Plus they wanted to "make up" to Freys somehow for Robs blunder (Caitlinns brother was supposed to be wed to a Frey). Some characters even mention later on that since what Freys have done people all over Westeros are more reluctant to accept such invitations, and the event itself was highly criticized

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posted May 15, 2019 10:55 AM

I say err on the side of caution but what do I know ^^
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posted May 15, 2019 03:39 PM

Oddball13579 said:
I kinda saw the Red Wedding coming. I didn't expect it at the scope that it was, but I knew something was gonna happen.


I also knew something was coming but I didn't expect it to be like that. For me, it was kinda overkill. I think I hated the Lannisters more after that.

Did anyone saw the trailer of the the final episode? I'm just wondering what you guys think is going to happen. I think it will be Daenerys vs Jon now. It's kinda obvious but it didn't came to me until I watched the trailer.

I read something from facebook that Jon will stab Daenerys and Bran will be the king. I don't know if thats a joke.
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posted May 15, 2019 04:46 PM

I'm only interested with how they will deal with Drogon. He's the biggest obstacle currently.

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posted May 15, 2019 04:53 PM

Aria will kill Dani and Jon will fly Dragon into the sunset.
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posted May 15, 2019 04:56 PM

Geny said:
Aria will kill Dani and Jon will fly Dragon into the sunset.


And how will they explain killing his mother to him?

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posted May 15, 2019 05:14 PM

She went into the great sky in the sky... Above the sky?
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posted May 15, 2019 06:30 PM

blob2 said:
Yeah, easy to say after you've already seen it
I said I'm not watching the show. The first season didn't manage to catch my interest so decided to skip the next ones. From what I hear from fanboys, moderates and critics, that was the right decision. I only hope Martin actually finishes at least the 6th book before his age catches up with him (looks like it already has at least to a degree), the 7th will most likely be written or co-written by somebody else anyway. I'm expecting the political landscape to be quite different from the series where, from what I've been told, Aegon Targaryen is not even mentioned past his supposed death by The Mountain's hands - while in the fifth novel he appears as an actual pretender - and quite a few other characters either behave differently or survive/get killed unlike their prototypes in the books. So the show shouldn't have spoiled too much.

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posted May 15, 2019 06:31 PM

I keep hearing that the episode was leaked already, and that this is what happens. Jon stabs Daenerys in the throne room—of Dragonstone I am assuming—thus killing her. Drogon takes her body and flies away. Jon becomes King.

Of course I don't really trust this cause it's just rumors/speculation. But we will see I guess.
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posted May 15, 2019 09:14 PM
Edited by blob2 at 21:15, 15 May 2019.

Zenofex said:
blob2 said:
Yeah, easy to say after you've already seen it
I said I'm not watching the show.


Well you've seen it either way, be it a book, a wiki summary or sth else. Or maybe one of your friends told you Nah I'm just teasing you, there were signs this could've happened, but it was one of those "they wouldn't dare, or would they?" situations. Either way I remember being very angry with Rob while reading for his little escapade with the no-name girl...

Speaking of which, let's not forget Lady Stoneheart, her character might add a unique dynamic to the story in the books. She is, a what, half-zombie?

Unfortunately the TV adaptation came too early. Not only is Martin too lazy to finish the books now, he might also be influenced by it unwillingly...

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posted May 15, 2019 11:26 PM

blob2 said:

Unfortunately the TV adaptation came too early. Not only is Martin too lazy to finish the books now, he might also be influenced by it unwillingly...


There's an interesting theory floating around that GRRM and D&D had a falling out a few years back because D&D leaked some plot info that was ahead of the books.  GRRM also started getting annoyed with important scenes that D&D were cutting out.  So even though GRRM had finished the last two books he basically said "no plot for you!" and decided to hold onto the books until after the HBO series concluded.  

If this is true then fairly soon he'll be announcing the publication of the next one in the series.

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posted May 17, 2019 06:57 AM

Oddball13579 said:
I keep hearing that the episode was leaked already, and that this is what happens. Jon stabs Daenerys in the throne room—of Dragonstone I am assuming—thus killing her. Drogon takes her body and flies away. Jon becomes King.

Of course I don't really trust this cause it's just rumors/speculation. But we will see I guess.


**** Jon!

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posted May 17, 2019 09:17 AM

friendofgunnar said:
If this is true then fairly soon he'll be announcing the publication of the next one in the series.


He denounced having completed the books, but you know, he can always say it was "a figure of speech"...

The theory of having a falling out might be true though, no creator likes his work to be tampered and he scarcely ever comments on the TV series, he rather talks about his books. And for me he looks like a person that can hold a grudge.

The question is, will his eventual conclusion be so much better then what we got in TV. People are clinging to this thought, but might be disappointed.

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posted May 17, 2019 02:57 PM

friendofgunnar said:
There's an interesting theory floating around that GRRM and D&D had a falling out a few years back because D&D leaked some plot info that was ahead of the books.  GRRM also started getting annoyed with important scenes that D&D were cutting out.  So even though GRRM had finished the last two books he basically said "no plot for you!" and decided to hold onto the books until after the HBO series concluded.

Heh, that would be amusing. It might even explain some things but it's equally plausible that D&D tried to cram too much content within a couple of short seasons at the cost of gradual character development. Last I checked, the petition to rewrite the 8th season(yes really) with different writers had reached 500k signatures. That's hilarious.
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posted May 17, 2019 03:11 PM
Edited by Geny at 15:11, 17 May 2019.

I think the people who voted for it should do the rewrite. All together. I'd watch it.
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posted May 17, 2019 03:23 PM

We've already gotten the official fanfiction so I'm all for the unofficial one
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