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mvassilev
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posted August 05, 2013 09:13 PM
Edited by mvassilev at 21:14, 05 Aug 2013.

Lab-grown meat a reality

Though it's not commercially available yet.

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Researchers from the Netherlands unveiled a burger made entirely from lab-grown stem cells Monday, cooking and tasting the test tube meat at a media event in London. Dr. Mark Post, a professor at Maastricht University, heralded today's public tasting as an important step toward wide-scale adoption of synthetic meat a transition that some see as a solution to looming environmental and agricultural crises...

The burger was tasted by two volunteers Hanni Rutzler, an Austrian researcher, and Josh Schonwald, a Chicago-based food writer. Both said that the burger felt authentic in some respects, though they noticed some peculiarities. Upon eating the burger, Hanni said it had a lot of "flavor" that was "close to meat," with a consistency she described as "perfect," though it was not "that juicy" because she knew the meat had no fat. Schonwald described the "texture, the mouthfeel" as "like meat," but also described what was "absent" as the fat of "conventional" burgers...

Post acknowledged that it will likely be "10 to 20 years" before cultured meat arrives on the market, citing high costs, low-volume production, and consumer apprehension as primary obstacles, though he remains confident that lab grown food could mitigate what many experts regard as an impending crisis...

A 2011 study from Oxford University found that synthetic meat would require just one percent of the land and four percent of the water that traditional livestock production currently uses. It would also present significant environmental benefits, the study found, reducing livestock-produced greenhouse gases by up to 96 percent, and using 45 percent less energy than conventional means...

[S]keptics have already labeled it "Frankenburger"...


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So, what do you think? This is good news, it seems. The technology needs more development to get the taste right, and to make it more commercially viable, but I think in 40 years, those of us who are still alive will be munching on burgers made with lab-grown meat.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:17 PM

I'm looking forward to it greatly.

So much suffering can be avoided, it's all great. I'm sure it'll get massive resistance for being "unnatural" but considering how much **** you pump your pigs and cows and chickens and everything with it's not really even a question of "natural" anymore.

Hell they genetically modify chickens so they don't grow feathers because air condition is soooo expeeeensive.

I say go for it, **** yeah science.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:19 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 21:24, 05 Aug 2013.

They grew, a snowing burger... Cows are pretty much husks of what they used to be 50 years ago, a real cow makes about 15litres of milk (I worked on a farm) a "modern" cow makes 40litres of milk (if you can call it that) and has a life expectancy of 4 years all from a monthly injection.  So sure, make yer fake burgers, make your fake milk, and make yer fake humans. Famine and demand my ass.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:21 PM

I can't deny that I feel bad for eating meat. I always try to look at the origins of the meat to minimize supporting the suffering of animals. So I really do hope this will be commercially viable and I think it will be as there is likely a high demand for this.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:26 PM

I don't feel bad for eating meat, for reasons I've written about numerous times. But this is still good - it's more efficient, and it makes current animal suffering unnecessary. It's to be welcomed. Nothing bad about it being artificial.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:27 PM

Fine by me, as Ad said 'traditional' meat is almost as far from natural as this initiative is.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:31 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 21:32, 05 Aug 2013.

The_Polyglot said:
as Ad said 'traditional' meat is almost as far from natural as this initiative is.


There's no need to add insult to injury.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:35 PM

Food wasting is a fact indeed, but you still can't deny the massive suffering in the meat industry.

You have two alternatives, both unnatural, but one includes an animal screaming in pain over and over in its short life. Which one do you choose?

I have nothing against locally produced meat and hunted meat and such, they can keep doing that, it's the completely emotionless, greedy industry that treats animals like less than **** that is the problem.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:38 PM
Edited by Fauch at 21:40, 05 Aug 2013.

eating isn't the only reason for killing animals.

good news for food industry? when it comes to people suffering from hunger, I'm not sure it's gonna help them, they probably won't have the money anyway.

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posted August 05, 2013 09:42 PM

It can't go on the way it has, the suffering of animals has more than a moral impact. An animal that lived all its life in the dark and crowded with all its kin in horrific conditions, (not to mention all the drugs pumped into them) these "animals" evolve so to speak, I was at a farm where they kept pigs in a warehouse all crowded up in the dark, as soon as I opened the door you'd hear a shrill 5 second squeal, then you'd have about 100+ eyes silently staring at you, these characteristics undoubtedly pass on to whomever consumes them, especially all the adrenaline in the blood of animals caused by a lifetime of fear.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:45 PM

I don't eat nor pay for.. They make us eat snow toy Just the nightmare - the gene is building. Isn't new the news - first feed the animals.. But now they trust in money

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posted August 05, 2013 09:51 PM

DISGUSTING.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:53 PM

Tsar-Ivor said:
these characteristics undoubtedly pass on to whomever consumes them, especially all the adrenaline in the blood of animals caused by a lifetime of fear.
Source? Because otherwise this goes beyond speculation and into fear-mongering.
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posted August 05, 2013 09:57 PM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 22:07, 05 Aug 2013.

Common sense. Life experience, but if you want me to dig through the web for a scientific source then I'll leave you disappointed, I saw what they did to the animals, and I refuse to believe that the crap they gave them and the adrenaline from fear will not pass unto whomever eats them. As I said, I discerned it from common sense and what I know of how bodies work.
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posted August 05, 2013 10:14 PM

Lab grown meat? Cool. Sadly, it will not solve starvation as starvation is a sign of a failing society.

I myself don't like meat. I do eat it but I try to avoid it wherever possible. O would be happy to see an everything pill, that could give me going and not waste time eating stuff.

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Dude, humanity will end one day but its not going to happen anytime soon.

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posted August 05, 2013 11:53 PM

I really don't get doomsday prophets. I can't really see anything that is pointing towards our ultimate doom.
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posted August 06, 2013 12:00 AM

lol, you're blind, man. and, i'm not a prophet. just a doom-crier.

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posted August 06, 2013 12:17 AM

Tsar-Ivor said:
Common sense. Life experience, but if you want me to dig through the web for a scientific source then I'll leave you disappointed, I saw what they did to the animals, and I refuse to believe that the crap they gave them and the adrenaline from fear will not pass unto whomever eats them. As I said, I discerned it from common sense and what I know of how bodies work.

It must be such a unique life to "experience" fear passing through adrenalin and getting digested in the stomach. However, I'm confused about something, in the wilderness predators hunt down animals, take them down and usually wait like 10-15 minutes till the prey actually dies. (That's what the whiskers of cats are for, they sense there's no more blood movement in the veins while they lock-bite the neck). So I'm guessing the poor animal is terrified near the end while slowly dying between the fangs of the hunter. Now, why don't tigers and lions get infected by this blood transmitted fear?  

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posted August 06, 2013 12:36 AM
Edited by Tsar-Ivor at 00:45, 06 Aug 2013.

'Predators' have different digestive system that's evolved for that task.
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posted August 06, 2013 12:43 AM

Hmmm, and is it life experience again that enables you to compare digestive systems of mammals, Dr. Lecter?


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