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DoubleDeck
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posted March 28, 2014 11:06 PM

watcher83 said:
Everybody says Kelthor is boring, well I think not just as I didn't think Ishuma was boring 4 months ago when she dominated. Well by all means take them out for who doesn't want them; but I enjoy playing with forbidden flame, or Cassandra with prison, or with ambush outmanoeuvre creatures in sanctuary or with wolf captains etc.

This is not the point Watcher. The point is these are the strongest decks and nothing can beat them. So everyone is playing only these decks. We need variety of strong decks and more skill involved. When you see Kelthor you KNOW what the oppoent is going to do. When you see Cassandra, you KNOW what is going to happen. There is a decrease in gameplay and enjoyment. I used to love Heroes 5 duel maps of Elvin's....there was always countless possibilities for winning duels depending on the strategy you chose...which gave gamers the ultimate enjoyment: replayability.

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JollyJoker
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posted March 28, 2014 11:27 PM

watcher83 said:
All I care about is if I can play open on ladder, I've read the news; they say all kind of meaningless stuff (like we raised prices not because we want money, no, no sir we did it for your benefit to feel the importance of premium currency - say what?) but nothing to the point.
I answwered that.The way I understand it, EACH ranked duel is ffor the ladder, no matter the format.

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watcher83
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posted March 29, 2014 03:34 AM
Edited by watcher83 at 03:39, 29 Mar 2014.

@JJ: Ok, I hope you're right.
@DD: So make cards that could be very potent in other decks so they can compete, do not take out heroes, spells, creatures etc.
You can't ban Messi from playing football just because the other teams' defense has no answer for him. Anyway if JJ is right everybody will be happy, the majority of 1500+ players will head for standard while some with me along will head for open. If that's the case no harm no foul everybody is happy. Considering seals I do not mind paying but I dislike the way they wanna make seem like it's in our favor. I would have much prefered if they just said "Times are difficult and in order to provide new content and expansions we need to take this measure". I would have personally congratulated them for their honesty and instantly bought a 30 euro pack.
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Dave_Jame
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posted March 29, 2014 07:54 AM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 08:10, 29 Mar 2014.

You give examples from sports, Ok lets make examples from sports.
Spots use such restrictions aswell. One example - F1. Each year, the organization behind F1 choses wich motors can be used, what technologies may be applied, how much can the monopost weight. Belive me that most of the teams have better technoligie then that, but the rules  limit them. The same things can even be told about Football. Sure they can't say Messi you can't play. But they can tell him, "You must use this and this and play according to these rules". This does not make him a worse player, but forces him to play in a different way. Thats the same as in this game, This season we have these cards to work with, even though we have better.

And DoC is not even the first card game to do this. For almost 2 decades MtG works exactly the same way and it is "THE" card game of the world.

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watcher83
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posted March 29, 2014 08:43 AM

They tell Messi what strategy to play not to play only with his left foot; but your formula 1 example is a good one I give you that
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posted March 29, 2014 12:52 PM

Just to brag a little, playing my version of Xorm troll gate for the sole purpose of levelling up quicker to get to level 200 (1200 seals achievement - before it becomes wild cards!) and I have been doing so well, my highest elo yet (not that it will matter on April 11th):


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posted March 29, 2014 12:57 PM



I mean damn, didn't think Xorm could climb so well. Congrats
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posted March 29, 2014 03:16 PM

Lol - nice pic of Ferrell!

Yeah, 4 x gates and 4 x reinforcements working well with high cost creatures. Also have low cost creatures in deck for cost curve.

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posted March 30, 2014 01:03 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 13:16, 30 Mar 2014.

Heh.. just had the best game against an Asalah OTK.

The guy played really well deployed his creatures in different rows, slowly gathering cards. When in turn 6+ his managed to kill my creatures and deploy 2 Tutores I might have been done. If I Did not have two Ice armors on my hand. First time I used them to perm-block the enemy creatures from beeing targeted.

This allowed me to let these two been unguarded and focuse on his other creatures, and when I deployed a Mizu-kami and later used my COsmic realighment on his almost 20 cards he wisely gave up.

BTW. Is it me, or did the meta change drastically, Im facing decks like Kal-Azaar Dark, control, Asalah OTK/MILL, Hakeem or  even Shaar decks.
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watcher83
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posted March 30, 2014 01:33 PM

It's you, most of what I encounter is Garant gate, Kelthor, Gazal Hotv and random Arianas. Just now had 21 wins in a row got to 1530 than lost 2 games in a row vs fate twisters Gazal 1050 elo ( I was Ignatius) and went back to 1502 I believe.
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RMZ1989
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posted March 30, 2014 04:40 PM

Matchmaking is terrible here, and I am glad that they are getting rid of ELO(or at least they will modify it), it is an awful system.
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posted March 31, 2014 08:13 AM

There is a rumour about Kelthor (card) receiving a nerf. I believe that the most obvious one would be to make his ability only work with enrage counters not blood thirst just like Acamas ability works and is absolutely worthless.
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JollyJoker
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posted March 31, 2014 09:32 AM

Right. Also, the ability costs 1 Res now.

There are lots of changes.

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posted March 31, 2014 09:36 AM

RMZ1989 said:
Matchmaking is terrible here, and I am glad that they are getting rid of ELO(or at least they will modify it), it is an awful system.


There will be a new option to restrict matchmaking to your tier only (tiers are replacing ELO).

Yeah, Kelthor's ability should cost 1 resource. As for Ishuma as well.
Their abilities are good, therefore should cost.

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posted March 31, 2014 10:56 AM

DoubleDeck said:
RMZ1989 said:
Matchmaking is terrible here, and I am glad that they are getting rid of ELO(or at least they will modify it), it is an awful system.


There will be a new option to restrict matchmaking to your tier only (tiers are replacing ELO).

Yeah, Kelthor's ability should cost 1 resource. As for Ishuma as well.
Their abilities are good, therefore should cost.

Yeah, I know. That is what I am talking about.

About abilities, I've been saying that for a long time now. No reason that Nergal's ability should cost 1 while Ishuma's and Kelthor's doesn't. No wonder Nergal was among the most popular decks back in the days and after the nerf he is nowhere in the sight except for some rare slowpoke versions.
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posted March 31, 2014 01:47 PM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 13:47, 31 Mar 2014.

Standard format includes the new Base Set 2, the Heart of Nightmares expansion, and all future series that will be released this season. In order to promote the current season as the official competition format and to stay true to our Free2Play label, all packs from ‘Standard’ will eventually become available in Gold a few weeks after their release. That’s a first in Duel of Champions’ history (currently, you can only get a new series in Seals, until a newer one comes out), and something we’re really excited about. So just to be clear, the Base Set 2 will always be in Gold. The new cards from Heart of Nightmares will be available in Seals for a few weeks following their release, then in Gold before a new series comes out.

So which one is it? A few weeks or before a new series comes out? Remember a new series comes out approx. every 3 months.

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posted March 31, 2014 02:24 PM

So I was reviewing the so far shown cards of hon and it came to my attention that the new Zefiria is only good as a finisher, she doesn't do much else since she entered. As an exception will be prime magic school using heroes who can town portal her and use her again next turn, since she costs a bit two much to happen in the same turn; so as a bottom line all air heroes benefit greatly by adding her with an added plus for Akane sanctuary and Myranda. ( you can count Jezziel also if u like but that's a bit unrealistic).
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posted March 31, 2014 03:09 PM

@DD. Hold to the few week after. The befor next expansion has no time value so it could be any time between the releases.

@Watcher: Did you consider other cards then TP. Like Whirpool, Broaken Bridge or even ToR? Or a copy card like Ink warrior.

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watcher83
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posted March 31, 2014 03:31 PM

who plays 4 might 4 magic can't really play fortunes imo
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RMZ1989
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posted March 31, 2014 03:41 PM

watcher83 said:
who plays 4 might 4 magic can't really play fortunes imo

That really depends on the hero and the deck, the most popular Seria was 5-4-3 one, and people were destroying with that deck, it was among top 5 decks in the Herald of the Void era.

With new Banshee buff, I am looking forward to 4-4-4 Seria, it will be much easier to play her now then when you had to go up to 6 Might and 3 Magic just because of Banshees.
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