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watcher83
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posted March 31, 2014 04:02 PM |
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You're example is a good one, and I can give u 2 more - the 5-4-3 Morgan and currently I play with very good results a 6-4-3 Dhamiria; but I was refering to the air magic decks (Kelthor, Sandalphon, Zouleika,Akane both)who never go that high on destiny, and for good reason or the decks power would suffer. Yukiko might work since she already starts with 2 destiny but I see it as a stretch not a top deck.
EDIT: new Damran unique posted on the official forums, seems decent.
Never expected not to like the first dark elf unit (art wise).
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Dave_Jame
Promising
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posted March 31, 2014 07:21 PM |
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Well but think about Cass and Yukiko which will be flexible and competitve even in BS2 games.
BTW. the final BS2 cardlist has been submited.
Changes from original list:
Decay Spitter --> Fate Spinner
Gate to Sheogh --> Void Rift
Curse of the Netherworld --> Curse of the Penitent
Full set here
Huge nerf to Necropolis. And a some what devastating decision for Inferno.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted March 31, 2014 08:43 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Well but think about Cass and Yukiko which will be flexible and competitve even in BS2 games.
BTW. the final BS2 cardlist has been submited.
Changes from original list:
Decay Spitter --> Fate Spinner
Gate to Sheogh --> Void Rift
Curse of the Netherworld --> Curse of the Penitent
Full set here
Huge nerf to Necropolis. And a some what devastating decision for Inferno.
Definitely huge nerfs to Necro, but I don't mind to be honest, I think that they are OP when other factions lost Lilims/Tainted Orcs/Wolf Captains.
The Gate to Sheogh removal worries me, because it is a death to certain deck type and it is really bad. That deck was already pretty nerfed without Lilims and Abyssal Lords, and they just managed to remove it completely....
New Damran
As someone mentioned, I don't really like that he is Earth Aligned, but oh well, still quite good card... It can be used in Ariana decks only, Dhamiria will probably use him too.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted March 31, 2014 08:52 PM |
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I will try for open a 5/4/1 Nergal with him along an infect based deck and might of nature.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
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posted March 31, 2014 11:21 PM |
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The two new uniques:
I will update first page with the new BS2....
Glad they took out Decay Spitter!
EDIT: List updated
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted April 01, 2014 01:45 PM |
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New op card presented, will be given as gift X4 to all players.
Drabskull Archer stronghold 2 might 2 cost 2/0/5 immune to retaliation, bloodthirst x1, enrage x1.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted April 01, 2014 03:25 PM |
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watcher83 said:
New op card presented, will be given as gift X4 to all players.
Drabskull Archer stronghold 2 might 2 cost 2/0/5 immune to retaliation, bloodthirst x1, enrage x1.
April fools much? 
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted April 01, 2014 03:27 PM |
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Dammit, I forgot what day it is
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted April 01, 2014 06:28 PM |
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watcher83 said:
Dammit, I forgot what day it is
LOL, i thought nobody will get deceived since it was so obviously OP
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted April 01, 2014 07:10 PM |
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Yeah, I was, just got back to the office totally forgetting what day it was and then I was like what?
By the way nameless/zergrusher why did you rank Sandal that high and Dhamiria that low?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 01, 2014 08:31 PM |
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I loled
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DoubleDeck
Promising
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posted April 02, 2014 07:45 AM |
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watcher83 said:
Yeah, I was, just got back to the office totally forgetting what day it was and then I was like what?
By the way nameless/zergrusher why did you rank Sandal that high and Dhamiria that low?
I think because Dham lost some power after the Uniques got nerfed (recursion)...especially JKK's version...she is still powerful, but mainly against Cassandra decks. Sandal (rush) is still very good.
My favorite decks on his list are Garant gate and Ignatius, played them alot, and with Xorm being my hero that tipped me over 1001 elo way back when, these are the reasons why Inferno is my favorite faction.
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted April 02, 2014 11:10 AM |
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I played recently some Dhamiria 6/4/3 and all I can say is:
1) she is very powerful, haven't found one truly bad matchup
2) she rapes the likes of Sandal aggro, who is also pretty weak in general; I played comparativily a 4/4/1 Alia and Sandal and I can say that my Alia is tier 1 material in jp while Sandal struggles from 150 telo forward.
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted April 02, 2014 11:25 AM |
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yo Nameless - you are knocking on the 1700 door, countdown has begun - GET IT DONE!! 
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted April 02, 2014 12:58 PM |
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watcher83 said:
Yeah, I was, just got back to the office totally forgetting what day it was and then I was like what?
By the way nameless/zergrusher why did you rank Sandal that high and Dhamiria that low?
well Sandal is great vs Hakeem mill and gazal and decent vs Ignatius and Cassandra and they are all popular in JP. Dhamiria is still strong but she's just lost her dominant variation (jkk's late game - it's much weaker now).
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yo Nameless - you are knocking on the 1700 door, countdown has begun - GET IT DONE!!
yeah, it's just i've been doing other things. I've been asked to be a tester so i played some games rather on BAL server than the normal one. I think i'll try but it might not work.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
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posted April 02, 2014 03:25 PM |
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So of your top 10 we have heroes with factions:
3 x Inferno
2 x Stronghold
2 x Haven
2 x Academy
1 x Sanctuary
0 x Necro
LONG LIVE INFERNO!!
Sorry Necro! We'll just have to see how Nec goes in BS2 (without Spitters  )
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watcher83
Supreme Hero
Child of Malassa
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posted April 02, 2014 03:43 PM |
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For open with the exception of some new over the top 3 and 4 drops necro will be just like it is now - weak.
Concerning the list shown above I believ 8 are beyond doubt top ten material; the exceptions being Zardoc and Sandalphon. At their level (decently strong) are a bunch of heroes without being in particular stronger or weaker but just around their level. Imo those are: Alia, Myranda,Takana, Akane sanctuary, Zouleika, Crag Hack and I'm inclined to believe Adar isn't that far behind. Kat and Shalan are lower but honorable mentions. Most of the rest are medium, with the exception of trash tier which are: Siegfried, Jezziel, Gazal LoS, Belias, Siham, Kaiko and Noboru.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted April 02, 2014 04:28 PM |
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Majority of Necro heroes won't be playable in the open, but I think that 4-6-1 Ariana will become quite popular on top level. Unlike other Necro heroes she has tools to prevent early game rushes, combined with Dark Assassins and Pao Deathseekers nerfs and with new Atropos, Banshees and even new Damran, she might be stronger than ever.
EDIT: Guys, Aza presented the new Matchmaking system they were working on.
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/866191
Almost same system is used in Starcraft 2 and League of Legends, it is not perfect but it's far far better than the current system.
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Dave_Jame
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posted April 02, 2014 05:49 PM |
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Watcher I just don't understand the heroes you have mentioned
Takana? OK He is not bad, but not better then Yukiko, and I'm ready to prove that. Zouleika? What? Who? I think saw this hero once ever!. Akane? You mean Akane from Academy, not Sanc, right? Myranda? OK again not a bad hero bad not far as played as for example Akane Sanc, or Kat, Hell I've seen more Ammars then her.
As to Namlesses list. I'm only surprised by Ignatius and Zordoc, everything else is OK.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 02, 2014 06:18 PM |
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Interesting. Guess this is bye bye to my 1500 status
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