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artu
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posted February 27, 2014 05:07 PM |
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OhforfSake
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posted February 27, 2014 05:15 PM |
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I didn't know upload/download speed was a limiting factor in the first place?
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Zenofex
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posted February 27, 2014 05:20 PM |
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Speed in any network depends mostly on the smallest available bandwidth between point A and point B. It doesn't really matter how fast can something be processed on an end point if there is a bottleneck on the transit path. And usually there is. Bandwidth is expensive so something like this will probably not see any use outside of the (very) big company/government data centres in the near future.
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kayna
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posted February 27, 2014 05:35 PM |
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The people that governs us usually doesn't want us to have access to the top technology available. They give it to us drop by drop. Expect this thing to be reserved for military first, commerces years later, the little people even later.
Well, unless absolutely no harm can come from such a thing.
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Storm-Giant
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posted February 27, 2014 06:47 PM |
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Here in Spain they'd put it way overexpensive anyway
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Warmonger
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posted February 27, 2014 06:49 PM |
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Okay, so they have analog-to-digital, how about digital-to-analog on the other side and the network inbetween, what Zenofex said?
That movie-downlaod analogy is dubious as well. Once I was sked to translate an article when they mentioned downloading DVD movie to tiny SSD disk for handheld devices. No one is ever going to do that, of course.
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mvassilev
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posted February 27, 2014 06:55 PM |
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Warmonger said:
Once I was sked to translate an article when they mentioned downloading DVD movie to tiny SSD disk for handheld devices. No one is ever going to do that, of course.
I'm not sure what you mean. People do this all the time - download DVD movies from Itunes and put them on their iPhones, which have solid state disks.
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kayna
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posted February 27, 2014 07:08 PM |
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Having a download limit, clicking a link and having a 30 $ increase on your bill 10 seconds later sounds horrible though.
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artu
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posted February 27, 2014 07:30 PM |
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I can't believe nobody's even remotely happy about this. Here I am, dreaming cyber cities and you guys are complaining about paying 30 bucks!
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fred79
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posted February 27, 2014 07:42 PM |
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artu said:
I can't believe nobody's even remotely happy about this. Here I am, dreaming cyber cities and you guys are complaining about paying 30 bucks!
that's because this kind of technology cannot be practically applied by the common consumer on a daily basis. it will be out of our reach for years, yet, anyway.
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Zenofex
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posted February 27, 2014 07:57 PM |
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artu said:
I can't believe nobody's even remotely happy about this. Here I am, dreaming cyber cities and you guys are complaining about paying 30 bucks!
Happy or not has nothing to do with this. Technological advances are usually a good thing and there is nothing bad about this particular one. However, you shouldn't expect that it will enter anyone's home any time soon. It's just not practical. Even if you assume that an end user will make use of such a speed somehow - which I doubt - you will still need all links (and network devices) between a given source and a given destination to be able to handle that speed - and that still means a lot of money, even for big ISPs.
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fred79
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posted February 27, 2014 08:10 PM |
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artu
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posted February 27, 2014 08:19 PM |
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Edited by artu at 20:20, 27 Feb 2014.
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Dont get me wrong Zeno, I know this kind of stuff is work related to you and I'm sure you know much more about it than me but in 1995, if somebody told me that I will be walking around with 32 GB flashdisks, have 2000 movies in my hard disk and Doom would be downloaded in my phone in 10 minutes, I would have accused him of watching too much Star Trek. So, maybe it will take less than we expect, they will always want to sell more products, that's for sure.
Btw, if bandwith bottlenecks is a huge problem, how can millions of people watch the same Youtube video at once (I'm talking about the ones that goes very famous in a very short time), and in HD nowadays?
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OhforfSake
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posted February 27, 2014 08:26 PM |
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artu said:
Doom would be downloaded in my phone in 10 minutes
10 min!? 
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Salamandre
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posted February 27, 2014 08:27 PM |
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This is terrible. Every year I notice my students becoming even more idiots, the entire day their noses in the ipad. I lost any hope in humanity and pray for a 1 kb/hour speed.
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fred79
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posted February 27, 2014 08:38 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 20:38, 27 Feb 2014.
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i just pray(not the right phrase, i should say, "want to kill") that people get their noses out of their goddamn phones. you can be talking to someone, and they'll be on their ****ing phone at the same time. i hope it causes incurable tumors, i absolutely ****ing do. then, the idiots who have their noses in their phone while driving, or at the movies. immediate rage factor of +1000. ****ing idiots, goddamn it, i hate them.
/end of off-topic rant
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artu
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posted February 27, 2014 08:42 PM |
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OhforfSake said:
artu said:
Doom would be downloaded in my phone in 10 minutes
10 min!?
It was a guess, I wasn't trying to be precise. You get the point.
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posted February 27, 2014 08:44 PM |
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Getting hyped over this is like getting hyped over fusion. Nice thing, it works and we will see it in our lifetime but in no way is it relevant in the next couple of decades.
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Salamandre
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posted February 27, 2014 08:54 PM |
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Don't know, Fred; for me is a breaking thing, someone who answers on the phone when he is talking to me. He/she won't see me again.
Yet people hardly understand, but the opposite would anger them as well. Imagine you answer when people call you at home phone, then every 10 seconds or so "sorry I have to make a cofee", or "give me a few minutes, have to feed the cat", or "moment, have to talk to mum" etc.
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Zenofex
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posted February 27, 2014 09:10 PM |
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artu said:
Dont get me wrong Zeno, I know this kind of stuff is work related to you and I'm sure you know much more about it than me but in 1995, if somebody told me that I will be walking around with 32 GB flashdisks, have 2000 movies in my hard disk and Doom would be downloaded in my phone in 10 minutes, I would have accused him of watching too much Star Trek. So, maybe it will take less than we expect, they will always want to sell more products, that's for sure.
True and that is why I'm only saying that I doubt that an end user will find a way to make use of such a speed, not that it's impossible. That's the smaller problem though, the bigger one is changing the underlying infrastructure. You need to have some 0.5 Tbps (500 Gbps) link directly connected to your own computer to process that speed. While much faster types of fiber optics already exist, they are not deployed anywhere near the end users and not even in what one normally calls "Internet". Most of the "developed countries" still use old-school last-mile (that basically means the type of medium just before the end user) technologies like XDSL just because their national telecoms and big ISPs are veeeery slow when it comes to major upgrades. Existing old infrastructure - like telephone lines - is squeezed to the last drop before any major changes are introduced. Fiber optics to the end user is a fairly recent development and from what I know it's not incredibly well-spread in Western Europe (and it's even worse in the US). In short, large scale speed upgrades are not happening as quickly as it may seem.
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Btw, if bandwith bottlenecks is a huge problem, how can millions of people watch the same Youtube video at once (I'm talking about the ones that goes very famous in a very short time), and in HD nowadays?
Youtube, like all major locations in the Internet like Facebook, Google, etc., doesn't have one central server which the entire world tries to access. It doesn't even have several such servers, although it may look like it does - not in the normal physical sense at least. What you access when you type the address is some cached version, stored much closer to your physical location than the original site. So, in Turkey for example, you're watching a Turkish cache of youtube, physically located probably on some servers in Turkey itself (or close enough). Moreover, the 123526265342 videos in youtube are spread between a large number of different hosting devices, so two videos might be physically located on computers which are 500 km away from each other and use totally different links to get to you, even if they show, for example, right next to each other in your "most popular" list.
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