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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Modders Workshop > Thread: Quantomas AI (older version!) for NCF
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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


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育碧是白痴
posted August 10, 2014 05:19 PM
Edited by frostymuaddib at 12:03, 24 Oct 2014.

Quantomas AI for NCF

Hello. I recently merged two of my most favourite mods together. I'm talking about NCF and Eternal Essence (Quantomas' AI mod).

But, there is a catch: I was able to do that using older version of Quantomas' AI mod. Unfortunately, I am not sure what version was that, because I lost track of them when I changed my computer. It is one of the versions before versions with seperate AI process (H5_AIProcess_31j.exe) - I was unable to make latest version work with NCF.

This is something I made for myself, and decided to share with others. It is not officially part of Eternal Essence mod. I hope that in the future there will be support for NCF in Eternal Essence, as Quantomas' AI mod is the one that allowed me to continue playing H5 As for NCF, you already know it: more creatures

So how to install this mod? Just download NCF mod as usual (and creatures, or Mega Pack...) and use the exe file that I uploaded to start the game. I tested it only in singleplayer.

Anyway, here is the modified exe file: http://speedy.sh/GacHM/H5-Game-AI-NCF.zip

And last, but definitely not the least, I would like to thank everyone who participated (in any way) in creating NCF and Eternal Essence mods. They are really work of art IMO

EDIT

After some tinkering with latest version of Quantomas' AI, I was able to make it compatible with NCF mod. So, here it is:

http://speedy.sh/T564G/H5-AIadv-31j-NCF.zip

Just install NCF and AI mods as usual, and replace H5_AIadv_31j.exe with the one in this archive. Be sure to backup your exe first. I was unable to test it too much, but I did finish one scenario with ncf monsters.

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magnomagus
magnomagus


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posted August 10, 2014 09:14 PM

This must be 3.1.7 or older because it has no widescreen support.

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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


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育碧是白痴
posted August 11, 2014 02:03 PM

Probably... Where there any versions with  one exe file that supported widescreen? I can't seem to recall.

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magnomagus
magnomagus


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posted August 11, 2014 06:56 PM

3.1.8 added widescreen + separate AI process, so no. Nice job anyway!


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frostymuaddib
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育碧是白痴
posted August 14, 2014 12:23 AM

After many nights of tinkering, I was able to make latest AI mod run with NCF. I updated my original post with download link.

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mhorohello
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posted September 09, 2014 12:07 AM

+1 Thank you very much.

Quick question : is there a random map generator that works with this?


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frostymuaddib
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育碧是白痴
posted September 09, 2014 10:08 AM

There is Random Template Map Generator here. It is very nice tool

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rpgyay
rpgyay


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posted October 23, 2014 09:24 PM

frostymuaddib said:

After some tinkering with latest version of Quantomas' AI, I was able to make it compatible with NCF mod. So, here it is:

http://speedy.sh/cZVGT/H5-AIadv-31j-NCF.zip

Just install NCF and AI mods as usual, and replace H5_AIadv_31j.exe with the one in this archive. Be sure to backup your exe first. I was unable to test it too much, but I did finish one scenario with ncf monsters.


Unfortunately, this link seems to be dead now, does anyone have a working download link?

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frostymuaddib
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育碧是白痴
posted October 24, 2014 12:06 PM

I updated link in OP, here it is again:

http://speedy.sh/T564G/H5-AIadv-31j-NCF.zip

One note though, this version is not so stable: it has crashes. I'm trying to fix that, but I don't have enough time now for that . This version for older mod is more stable.

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rpgyay
rpgyay


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posted October 24, 2014 07:20 PM

Thanks for the re-upload, are the crashes indefinite or can you reload a saved gave to fix it?

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frostymuaddib
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育碧是白痴
posted October 25, 2014 01:22 PM

If I recall correctly, it failed to oad some maps when starting the game, but I'm not 100% certain.

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rpgyay
rpgyay


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posted October 30, 2014 08:15 PM

Just a little update:

The latest version seemed to work fine for me on 1 player, but while playing a hotseat game the game would crash after we took our first turn.

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Beaust
Beaust

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posted November 01, 2014 01:54 PM

rpgyay said:
Just a little update:

The latest version seemed to work fine for me on 1 player, but while playing a hotseat game the game would crash after we took our first turn.


Same here. We do hope there will be a fix for hot-seat mode.

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xy0n4x
xy0n4x

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posted August 05, 2016 03:37 PM

Link Broken...
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Psatkha
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posted November 10, 2016 01:38 PM

frostymuaddib said:
I updated link in OP, here it is again:

http://speedy.sh/T564G/H5-AIadv-31j-NCF.zip

One note though, this version is not so stable: it has crashes. I'm trying to fix that, but I don't have enough time now for that . This version for older mod is more stable.


Do you can put a new link?

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rpgyay
rpgyay


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posted November 18, 2016 08:50 PM

i was checking if i had it but it looks like i lost the download as well

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Loran
Loran

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posted January 13, 2022 12:37 PM

Hi there!

I know this is an old thread but I was wondering if you by any chance have the old ai from quantamas, this one H5_AIProcess31j.exe. The new non cheating ai from quantamas (this one-https://www.quantomas.de/downloads/)  is not fun and challenging for me, thats why I am trying to find the old one.

The mod HoMM 5.5(https://www.moddb.com/mods/might-magic-heroes-55)uses H5_AIProcess31j.exe from Quantomas' ToE AI mod. The mod itself changes to many things in the game, thats why its not for me but the ai is amazing on that mod, do you know if I can get only the ai from that mod. That is why I am looking for the H5_AIProcess31j.exe.


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Alyx182008
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posted January 13, 2022 03:10 PM

Loran said:
Hi there!

I know this is an old thread but I was wondering if you by any chance have the old ai from quantamas, this one H5_AIProcess31j.exe. The new non cheating ai from quantamas (this one-https://www.quantomas.de/downloads/)  is not fun and challenging for me, thats why I am trying to find the old one.

The mod HoMM 5.5(https://www.moddb.com/mods/might-magic-heroes-55)uses H5_AIProcess31j.exe from Quantomas' ToE AI mod. The mod itself changes to many things in the game, thats why its not for me but the ai is amazing on that mod, do you know if I can get only the ai from that mod. That is why I am looking for the H5_AIProcess31j.exe.




From what I remember Quantomas doesn't want the older version of his AI to be distributed around anymore. There's been some controversy (to say the least). Also, I think even his older AI versions didn't cheat, it's just that now Quantomas insists on making it crystal clear that his AI is non-cheating, by naming the .exe with "non-cheating".

The reason the AI from H5.5 feels more challenging is because the author adds scripts on top of what the AI normally does, like giving the AI more creatures to make up for creature loss during combat.

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Loran
Loran

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posted January 13, 2022 05:28 PM

Alyx182008 said:
Loran said:
Hi there!

I know this is an old thread but I was wondering if you by any chance have the old ai from quantamas, this one H5_AIProcess31j.exe. The new non cheating ai from quantamas (this one-https://www.quantomas.de/downloads/)  is not fun and challenging for me, thats why I am trying to find the old one.

The mod HoMM 5.5(https://www.moddb.com/mods/might-magic-heroes-55)uses H5_AIProcess31j.exe from Quantomas' ToE AI mod. The mod itself changes to many things in the game, thats why its not for me but the ai is amazing on that mod, do you know if I can get only the ai from that mod. That is why I am looking for the H5_AIProcess31j.exe.




From what I remember Quantomas doesn't want the older version of his AI to be distributed around anymore. There's been some controversy (to say the least). Also, I think even his older AI versions didn't cheat, it's just that now Quantomas insists on making it crystal clear that his AI is non-cheating, by naming the .exe with "non-cheating".

The reason the AI from H5.5 feels more challenging is because the author adds scripts on top of what the AI normally does, like giving the AI more creatures to make up for creature loss during combat.


I see, thank you for the clarification. I actually never knew that the old ai did not cheat either, its just when I play with the non cheating ai from quantamas, I set the starting resources to 0
(0 everything) to make it more challenging (and it was for me) at month 3 or so I had build my town and had good amount of troops (like 7 dragons, 18 shadow misstress, 30 hydra and so on) and all were upgraded exept the dragons. The ai had only 1 devil and a few tier 1-5 creatures. the difference is insane, its way to easy even if the settings were set to highest difficulty!

I actually read that heroes 5.5 uses scripts to make up for ai losses in combat.

Is there anyway to only take the ai from the mod heroes 5.5? as I dislike some of the changes in 5.5 but love the ai.

maybe mod the vanilla ai to also make up for the losses in combat or something along that way.

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Alyx182008
Alyx182008


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posted January 13, 2022 06:04 PM

Loran said:


Is there anyway to only take the ai from the mod heroes 5.5? as I dislike some of the changes in 5.5 but love the ai.

maybe mod the vanilla ai to also make up for the losses in combat or something along that way.


Best thing you could try is ask developer of H5.5 about what changes he made through scripts to everything AI related and then ask for help how to accomplish something similar.

As for why Quantomas AI didn't have many creatures, it's possible that it's not yet as capable in managing resources as the player, so starting up with 0 resources might actually hurt it much more than it hurts you.

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