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DarkLord
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posted September 13, 2014 07:19 PM

Neutral creatures - Vote

Now as people are able to vote for faction line ups
Guess it will be nice to have opportunity to vote for neutral creatures that people would prefer to see.

What u think which neutral creatures MUST be in Heroes 7

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Valen-Teen
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posted September 13, 2014 07:20 PM

I wanna see Sea Elf, Thief and Giant Turtle
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War-overlord
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posted September 13, 2014 07:43 PM
Edited by War-overlord at 19:43, 13 Sep 2014.

Switzerland.
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War-overlord
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posted September 13, 2014 07:44 PM

Seriously though, we should wait untill we know the lineups. We cannot have double creatures.
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Protolisk
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posted September 13, 2014 07:54 PM

War-overlord said:
We cannot have double creatures.


The most important thing if I've ever seen one. It was a problem throughout H6.

Blazing Glory, though had a few different abilities (one has cleansing, the other star burst retaliation, was very much like Light Elemental. Spring Spirit, though with some different abilities(pain mirror versus ice bolt), was super similar to the Water Elemental (and had the same portrait even!) Although Darkness Elemental and Faceless looked pretty different, they were still VERY similar. (is there a difference? I think Dark had a purge kinda ability? Faceless had nothing but Strike and Return and Teleport)

And among neutrals themselves, Wolves and Dire Wolves. Never mind they could have been essentially upgradable neutrals (A first in the series if implemented, although H3 had Archers/elves -> Sharpshooters, and Magi/monks(?) -> Enchanter with the right dudes, they never had a neutral upgrade into a neutral) But... nope. Two super similar units with a size difference and one ability added, in different tiers, just palette swapped.

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DarkLord
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posted September 14, 2014 04:07 AM
Edited by DarkLord at 04:10, 14 Sep 2014.



hope those guys will take their deserved place as neutrals

also would be nice to see some creatures from factions that won't make it to heroes-7

for instance Dwarfs and Valkyries from Fortress faction that lost the poll

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blizzardboy
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posted September 14, 2014 07:21 AM

Dwarves would be very good as a high-end neutral unit, where you can conquer a high difficulty mine/fortress, similar to a Dragon Utopia.

4-5 elementals.

Mermaids/Sea Monsters/Pirates


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Serpens
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posted September 14, 2014 08:59 AM

Mermaid, Elementals, Phoenix or Unicorn, Manticore
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Naze
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posted September 14, 2014 09:37 AM
Edited by Naze at 09:38, 14 Sep 2014.

So far, I would like to see Griffins (since they will make appearance in campaign, but are not part of the Haven lineup) and all the creatures from Sylvan proposed lineups that won't make it.

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RMZ1989
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posted September 14, 2014 10:31 AM

DarkLord said:


hope those guys will take their deserved place as neutrals

also would be nice to see some creatures from factions that won't make it to heroes-7

for instance Dwarfs and Valkyries from Fortress faction that lost the poll

Those should be in the Necropolis lineup to be honest.

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fuChris
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posted September 14, 2014 11:40 AM

I miss the good old rouges. They really need a comeback.


And pirates as well.

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blob2
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posted September 14, 2014 12:00 PM

Man, those look like beaten up hobos...

But seriously, I just hope Elementals won't be the only neutrals like in H6. I don't wanna see yet more maps "littered" with them. Heroes 6 was enough for me...

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Galaad
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posted September 14, 2014 12:20 PM
Edited by Galaad at 01:51, 15 Sep 2014.

I really liked the Mermaid's design and its abilities though, ranged unit with special wave attack pushing you away, and charming aura preventing you from attacking them if you stay too close too long, +1 for Homeric touch of that one


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fuChris
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posted September 14, 2014 12:24 PM

blob2 said:
Man, those look like beaten up hobos...




Would you rather see peasants? We need to have not faction affiliated humans as neutrals. What is more normal, that hordes of peasants stand by the road and attack like armies or that rouges, bandits, brigands and thieves make use of the war thats going on and takeing advantage of it?
They simply make the adventure map seem more alive.

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Dave_Jame
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posted September 14, 2014 12:32 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 12:35, 14 Sep 2014.

What I don't want to see are 6 elementals
Also, I don't want neutrals to be made out of rejects from other factions /For example griffins/

I would like to see neutrals as interesting new creatures, even somehow conected to factions. Like mercinaries that could benefit from haven racial abilities. An neutral orc riding a vulture or demon/heretic

Like Galaad pinted out the Mermaid was a great neutral creature, nice and new abilities, and a stuning designe. I would love to see them again.

Edit:
I also agree that some kind of bandit would be nice.
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fuChris
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posted September 14, 2014 12:39 PM

Dave_Jame said:
What I don't want to see are 6 elementals
Also, I don't want neutrals to be made out of rejects from other factions /For example griffins/

I would like to see neutrals as interesting new creatures, even somehow conected to factions. Like mercinaries that could benefit from haven racial abilities. An neutral orc riding a vulture or demon/heretic




You do realize that those examples are exactly THAT. Rejects from other castles. Mercenarys, Orc/Goblin riders, Beastmen(Academy rejects).

I could wery well see each of them in a normal caslte lineup.

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MattII
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posted September 14, 2014 12:43 PM

Having the thunderbird return would be nice.

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Dave_Jame
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posted September 14, 2014 12:51 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 16:15, 14 Sep 2014.

fuChris said:

You do realize that those examples are exactly THAT. Rejects from other castles. Mercenarys, Orc/Goblin riders, Beastmen(Academy rejects).

I could wery well see each of them in a normal caslte lineup.


Not exactly. The difference in my eyes is that a reject just did not make it into the line-up it usually is in. Griffins for Haven, Gremlins for Academy, Unicorns for Sylvan. It is in the game just to be there. As part of a tradition or some sort of fan service.
While a true neutral has nothing connecting it to a faction, but can be very easily associated with it.

For example the Mermaid. It was not part of sanctuary, or connected to it, no more then to Academy or Stronghold. But you could easily associate them with Sanctuary and they easily could have fit into its lineup. And many people would actually be happy if they would replace one of the maidens of the elite tier.
Rogues or bandits are similar. They can be associated with Haven, but they would never truly fit in.

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fuChris
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posted September 14, 2014 01:27 PM

If we are talking not faction affiliated neutrals, I would LOVE to see Templars of Sylath. Or infact any humans that formerly prayed to the Air dragon. That way we could get a first glimps of what its devotees look like.

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Storm-Giant
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posted September 14, 2014 03:50 PM

Pirates/Bandits plz.
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