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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: Prices of Lv8-WoG/Homm3-Creatures: your opinion :)
Thread: Prices of Lv8-WoG/Homm3-Creatures: your opinion :)
Sguazz
Sguazz


Known Hero
posted September 13, 2014 11:46 PM

Prices of Lv8-WoG/Homm3-Creatures: your opinion :)

For me, there is a big difference of price between Lv8-WoG and Lv8-HoMM3 creatures. An example could be a Darkness Dragon and a Rust Dragon: first costs 8000 Gold and 3 Sulfur; second costs 15.000 Gold and 14 Sulfur...
I'd like rebalance this situation, but I don't know if Lv8-WoG prices are too low or if Lv8-HoMM3 prices are too high...

What was better modify? Increase first, or decrease second???

Just an opinion

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frostymuaddib
frostymuaddib


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posted September 14, 2014 12:22 AM

If I recall, Rust, Azure and Crystal Dragons are considered level 10 creatures.

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Sguazz
Sguazz


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posted September 14, 2014 12:35 AM

frostymuaddib said:
If I recall, Rust, Azure and Crystal Dragons are considered level 10 creatures.



Probably, I don't remember this.
But if you are playing and you can choose to buy a Darkness or a Rust, which dragon you purchase?
Statistics are similar. Price no.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted September 14, 2014 07:37 AM

Quote:
An example could be a Darkness Dragon and a Rust Dragon: first costs 8000 Gold and 3 Sulfur; second costs 15.000 Gold and 14 Sulfur...
I'd like rebalance this situation, but I don't know if Lv8-WoG prices are too low or if Lv8-HoMM3 prices are too high

An example would be to compare their other stats than just level, which is not equal BTW.
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Sal
Sal


Famous Hero
posted September 14, 2014 01:39 PM

I consider 8th level monsters as a database for modding. In regular game they break every balance and options as "your lvl 7 becomes lvl 8" are totally fuc*ed.

While awesome dragons as rust or azures really rule, as they should. And I fear more rusts than azures, their acid ability is more destructive than better azures stats.

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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


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posted September 14, 2014 01:46 PM

WoG? Balance? Are you serious?

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted September 17, 2014 03:04 PM
Edited by phe at 16:42, 17 Sep 2014.

For 8th and 10th level creatures price doesn't matter so much especially since we can boost gold income in towns. It is more important to have these creatures in army regardless of price. Moreover players got used to these prices. Usually there are not too many creatures of these levels to purchase.

BTW: Would it be hard to add customizable array of creature purchase and boost creatures growth prices in next WOG or Era edition?  
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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted September 17, 2014 04:44 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 16:44, 17 Sep 2014.

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Would it be hard to add array of creature purchase and boost creatures growth prices in next WOG

Certainly, since WoG project has been officially cancelled over two years ago.

Besides, what makes you think that anybody else would like to see modified creature tables that has been around for more than 10 years?
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phe
phe


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posted September 17, 2014 05:38 PM
Edited by phe at 17:41, 17 Sep 2014.

Some people certainly would like to change prices of creatures and their growth boost permanently or in some games to their likes(no mods would be necessary)

As far as I remember some of these prices were changed during these 10 years.
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Sal
Sal


Famous Hero
posted September 17, 2014 05:47 PM

phe said:
BTW: Would it be hard to add customizable array of creature purchase and boost creatures growth prices in next WOG or Era edition?  


None of next Era (if any) is handling such issues. Those things are only dependent (from now) on custom mods. Sit down, write the codes then you play your own mod.

And btw, to change prices and creature stats, is baby scripting, a few lines.

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted September 17, 2014 06:13 PM
Edited by phe at 18:22, 17 Sep 2014.

Quote:
Certainly, since WoG project has been officially cancelled over two years ago.

GrayFace works on it:

https://github.com/GrayFace/wog


Quote:

None of next Era (if any) is handling such issues. Those things are only dependent (from now) on custom mods. Sit down, write the codes then you play your own mod.

And btw, to change prices and creature stats, is baby scripting, a few lines.


Table would be more convenient. ERM syntax looks a bit like hieroglyphs. To find out all necessary things there... For sure not hard. But it takes some time anyway.

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Sal
Sal


Famous Hero
posted September 17, 2014 06:24 PM

I am not expecting any soon 3.59. This is titanic work, not for one man.

Erm may look strange, but this is what you get. It is very versatile and allows almost anything. It takes some time, indeed.

But any modding language takes some time.

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Sguazz
Sguazz


Known Hero
posted September 17, 2014 10:53 PM

Ty for answers... But nobody says me if thinks that Lv8 are too cheap or Lv10 are too expensive
Okok, doesn't matter

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marisa
marisa


Hired Hero
I'm here. As always.
posted September 18, 2014 02:01 AM

With no rank Rust dragon > Darkness dragon
with rank ace Darkness dragon > Rust dragon

that berserk thing is very good, strike and return too

but, i think rust dragon is a level 8 creature

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted September 18, 2014 03:38 PM

marisa said:
but, i think rust dragon is a level 8 creature

The first time I played WoG it was possible to swap rust, crystal and phaerie dragons in Hill Forts and if u choose External in the Altar of Transformation u would get phaerie dragons; so I have to agree: at some point developers tought Rusts and Crystals were at the same level as SAs, LTs and DDs. But now this isn't possible anymore, at least with Era default options, so the PoV must have changed.

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