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Heroes Community > Heroes 5 - Temple of Ashan > Thread: Ultimate Ability?
Thread: Ultimate Ability?
vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Famous Hero
posted September 25, 2014 02:01 PM

Ultimate Ability?

i've been playing this game for a long time and i realized i haven't gained ultimate abilities before. I've read all of the prequsities of all races but ultimate abilities (unstoppable charge, ugrash's call etc etc) never appears on the skill list.

am i missing something?

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Steyn
Steyn


Supreme Hero
posted September 25, 2014 02:06 PM

Well, they have a lot of prerequisites, so they are very difficult to get. I only managed to get the Howl of Terror (necro ult) once.

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Famous Hero
posted September 25, 2014 02:18 PM

i already tested on the blank map. i'm absolutely sure i've selecting skills correctly. I've corrected skills on the skillwheel and http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/ skill sections but i've NEVER get the ultimate ability

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Elvin
Elvin


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posted September 25, 2014 03:14 PM

Original H5 and tribes of the east have different requirements, which skillwheel are you using?
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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posted September 25, 2014 03:16 PM

If I recall correctly, Ultimate Abilities got their prerequisites changed in TotE (in other words, they had different in Vanilla/HoF).

- HoF skills (check every class)
- TotE Skillwheel

What version do you have?
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Steyn
Steyn


Supreme Hero
posted September 25, 2014 03:18 PM
Edited by Steyn at 15:19, 25 Sep 2014.

I'm not sure if that skill tree is correct. iirc it was changed in TotE. For me there was a fanmade skillwheel included with TotE.
You should also check if you don't need the pendent of mastery to be able to learn the ut.

Which ultimate were you trying to get? I can look up the prerequisites for you if you like.

EDIT: The skillwheel I mentioned is the one SG linked. Try that one and you'll be fine

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Famous Hero
posted September 25, 2014 04:12 PM

Steyn said:

You should also check if you don't need the pendent of mastery to be able to learn the ut.


lol you mean i can't get without pendant of mastery? i don't remember any information about the ultimate ability on it?

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Buji
Buji


Known Hero
posted September 25, 2014 05:38 PM

vulcancolak said:
Steyn said:

You should also check if you don't need the pendent of mastery to be able to learn the ut.


lol you mean i can't get without pendant of mastery? i don't remember any information about the ultimate ability on it?

Ofc you can get the ultimate without the pendant of mastery. The skillwheels Stormy posted are the right ones. The thing is, if you are offered 2 skills (where none of them is the ultimate although you have the prequisite) and you choose one and remove it with that guy sitting on a flying carpet (can't remember the name) you'll be offered the same two skills again. So you'll have to remove some more skills (or at least not that one chosen with last lvl up) to get the ultimate offered (or any other skill in that case).

But don't bother with ultimates anyway, while they are pretty good in most cases, you'll miss out several more important skills. The only acceptable path in my opinion is the rangers ultimate but as you most likely will have luck of 5+ anyway with a ranger, its only a damage boost of 50% and choosing the ultimate over enlightment, leadership, aura of swiftness, retribution etc is a bad deal in my eyes

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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posted September 25, 2014 06:41 PM

Buji said:
The thing is, if you are offered 2 skills (where none of them is the ultimate although you have the prequisite) and you choose one and remove it with that guy sitting on a flying carpet (can't remember the name) you'll be offered the same two skills again. So you'll have to remove some more skills (or at least not that one chosen with last lvl up) to get the ultimate offered (or any other skill in that case).

Memory Mentor

Getting the ultimates can be a pain in the ass. A wrong level up skill choices and you're screwed
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Buji
Buji


Known Hero
posted September 25, 2014 07:42 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Buji said:
The thing is, if you are offered 2 skills (where none of them is the ultimate although you have the prequisite) and you choose one and remove it with that guy sitting on a flying carpet (can't remember the name) you'll be offered the same two skills again. So you'll have to remove some more skills (or at least not that one chosen with last lvl up) to get the ultimate offered (or any other skill in that case).

Memory Mentor

Getting the ultimates can be a pain in the ass. A wrong level up skill choices and you're screwed

Ah yes, thx

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Famous Hero
posted September 25, 2014 08:59 PM

ummm i'm just tested nature's luck and i can get the nature's luck with pendant of mastery but i can't get the nature's luck without pendant of mastery -_-

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Buji
Buji


Known Hero
posted September 25, 2014 10:23 PM

vulcancolak said:
ummm i'm just tested nature's luck and i can get the nature's luck with pendant of mastery but i can't get the nature's luck without pendant of mastery -_-

You can definitly get the ultimate without the pendant, at least with version 3.1, no idea about other versions

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vulcancolak
vulcancolak


Famous Hero
posted September 26, 2014 02:37 PM

Maybe because i was tested on original heroes 5

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