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kipshasz
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posted October 17, 2014 12:48 PM |
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@Cor: well, ebola isn't "fairly new" illness, it's been around for more or less forty something years.
And indeed since it's hard to get in our sort of "civilised enviroment" I'll still say that all the fear mongering is nothing more than a fear mongering. same thing happened with all these recent flus.
Some people over here also started concerning about the threat of it, but most more or less try to incite panic, like it's the end of the bleeping world as we know it.
also here's a fitting meme I found which I think fits the topic.
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posted October 17, 2014 02:27 PM |
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@Kip
40 years is fairly new in the scope of human disease, and it's also extremely new to the Western World, which has so far turned a blind eye because the virus has been confined primarily to "that other continent that nobody cares out".
Regarding DoomForge's point about resistant bacteria, yes I agree that's something we should all be concerned about. However, it is more of a chronic vs. acute issue. Moreover it is easily managed if we learn not to abuse our antibiotics. Currently there are few bacteria that are immune to our most powerful therapeutics, although the emerging VRE and VRSA strains are certainly concerning. Still, we know generally how to deal with these, and they seem to primarily be limited to hospitals and other health care facilities at the moment.
While we're poking fun, though, this comic was sort of amusing.
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kipshasz
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posted October 17, 2014 02:47 PM |
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correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't aids popped up in ye olde Africa as well?
the fact is here that this threat was ignored a tad to long. and eventually it came to the "civilised" part of the world.
but I guess it's cheaper and humane to wait for the africa to die out and then our dear and loving goverments and military alliances could slit each other's throats over the many nice resources present there.
even if there will be a cure I'll doubt it'll be distributed to the Black Continent(no racism intended), because profits. screw humanitarian aid.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted October 17, 2014 02:53 PM |
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but I guess it's cheaper and humane to wait for the africa to die out and then our dear and loving goverments and military alliances could slit each other's throats over the many nice resources present there.
Would be pretty dumb to let all the cheap labourers die out.
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kipshasz
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posted October 17, 2014 02:58 PM |
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that's what eastern european immigrants are for. 
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artu
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posted October 17, 2014 04:33 PM |
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Of course, the issue should not be dismissed or taken lightly and I'm not suggesting that. But to say we may be facing extinction is taking it too far.
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Hanzan
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posted October 18, 2014 03:26 AM |
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They called the swine flu a pandemic aswell. And it did spread at a rapid rate. But it didnt kill near as many as a ordinary flu did.
The same goes for ebola. It will kill alot of people, but mostly the ones with damaged or non-excisting immune systems. Which is primarily located in the poor parts of the world.
Next disease will also most likely pop up in africa due to poor hygene.
Its all a hype, and it will get somewhat worse before it settles.
Unless the virus pathogene evolves into something that kills the patients at a much rapid rate. Then it will spread alot faster aswell..
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Fauch
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posted October 18, 2014 04:21 AM |
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Edited by Fauch at 04:22, 18 Oct 2014.
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I heard they changed the definition of pandemic right before the swine flu was called a pandemic. I think they lowered the contagion and death threshold or something like that. we can wonder if it was done to spread panic or only by precaution.
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artu
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posted October 18, 2014 04:26 AM |
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Why would the officials want to spread panic in such a situation, the vaccine was free so there was no profit involved either.
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blizzardboy
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posted October 18, 2014 08:56 AM |
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When we say that ebola is transmissible by fluid, does that include sneezing? Even so, it doesn't have the capacity to spread in the way influenza does.
I don't see how a global pandemic is possible unless it's truly airborne. Sierra Leone has 5,000 bodybags and is estimating 85,000 more before things are under control, which is terrible, but if you put it into perspective, you would have to take that 85,000 figure and multiply it by itself, and there would still be a remnant of humanity around. You could have groups of 85,000 people die 85,000 times in a row and there would still be humans on Earth. The world is a big place.
You go to a clinic, you get tested, and you know whether it is or isn't ebola. One of the dark benefits of lethal diseases is that people don't generally sit around when they literally feel like they're dying. They go to a doctor. When you know, you quarantine and you treat. The person could live or they could die, but they're not spreading the disease. Yeah, you have pockets of people slipping through the cracks via bad luck or disobedience to protocol, which is how you get new cases, but when you've got the immense majority being handled how they're suppose to be handled, then it isn't really possible for the disease to flourish.
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posted October 18, 2014 03:17 PM |
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Without supporting or contesting anything you said, blizz, I'd like to point out that in the cost of an epidemic is not only measured in direct loss of human lives. Even if the potential for actual transmission is low, mass hysteria and panic can be an equally large problem that takes a toll on our welfare and economy. Managing an epidemic is as much about isolating the disease as it is about smart handling of public fears and attitudes. Ebola is an especially frightening disease to the average person because of the way it's been portrayed in popular culture. The ingredients are there for an especially costly epidemic, even if the actual number of deaths is low. The perceived risk can be just as devastating as the actual risk.
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Zenofex
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posted October 19, 2014 06:49 AM |
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Corribus
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posted October 19, 2014 07:22 AM |
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Amusingly enough, I have a few of those, mostly because I associate professionally with a bunch of microbiologists.
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markkur
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posted October 19, 2014 03:35 PM |
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I suppose this explains my uneasiness. It seems the U.N. is always an example of what "should not happen."
A lit late
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