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RMZ1989
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posted December 05, 2014 11:36 PM |
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Skeletal or combination, like Mummified/Zombified. Models from H6 look ok as some Undead Acolytes or Dark Mages, but they should never be Liches.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted December 06, 2014 12:00 AM |
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It should be skeletal, to stress its undead nature. The liches of Heroes5 were a lot more creepy and eerie than the ones from Heroes6.
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leiah2
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posted December 06, 2014 12:16 AM |
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Lokheit
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posted December 06, 2014 03:44 AM |
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Edited by Lokheit at 03:49, 06 Dec 2014.
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Skeletal.
I hope for this one they go void way or something, whatever they can do to get away from H6 version, the namtaru venom making every lich a vampire in the making was a horrible idea IMO. I liked the namtarus as creatures to be fair, but all the vampire centric stuff and them not being true undeads felt (and looked) weird.
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VokialBG
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First in line
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posted December 06, 2014 08:22 AM |
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Skeletons are humanoids...
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TDL
Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
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posted December 06, 2014 09:16 AM |
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Kronos1000 said:
The whole transition from Heroes 5 Ashan to Heroes 6 Ashan did leave a lot of people confused (including me it seems). But still, if they wanted to, they could reintroduce the Heroes 5 Liches and provide some origin story for them. Another solution would be a void themed Necropolis as others have suggested in the other thread. That way, they could have lost their flesh in a similar way Sandro did. This is way I think it's not entirely out of the question, but maybe I'm just too hopeful.
There is substantial reason to do so, if they want to keep up with the continuity (even though we all know by now they love to retcon everything)... I will not bear to see such ugly units on the battlefield... I already consider inferno's former unit design abominable; if necropolis goes to the drain again, I am literally not picking up the faction. Much like venom spawns rarely got chosen over vamps in h4 and not because they were ineffective...
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MattII
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posted December 06, 2014 09:39 AM |
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Hm, no option for 'other'? I kind of think somewhere in between (not purely skeletal, but not entirely fleshed either) would be the best, a bit like leiah2's picture there, though with a bit more flesh over the chest.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted December 06, 2014 10:22 AM |
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leiah2 said:
Too much glow for me - why do they always have to glow? And it's not just this picture, it's like majority of pictures of liches or undead in general have some form of glow. Either it's green, or blue or sometimes red ... Did they swallow lightbulbs? Is that the reason they died? Are those LED lights?
I can understand if he's casting some electric bolt spell or something, that would radiate lightning - or fireball. But if you look at H6 they glow all the time. Liches glow, vampires glow.
Have you seen Dracula? wouldn't it be nice if he would be dressed in neon green LED cristmas lights?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 06, 2014 11:02 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 11:48, 06 Dec 2014.
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
Either it's green, or blue or sometimes red ...
PURPLE.
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Skeletons are humanoids...
Yes but I didn't know how to propose otherwise, I believe people see what I meant 
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Darkem
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posted December 06, 2014 11:33 AM |
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Edited by Darkem at 11:44, 06 Dec 2014.
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Design of Lich should be as simple as it's possible.
In H2,H3 and H4 (if we count heroes) Liches were never overdone. Unluckily, Ubi tends to put tones of tacky ornaments. I'd like to see levitating dried-up body in simple robes with a staff. Less is more and that would be enough...
On the other hand, I'm not the biggest fan of this unit. Change in Necro's lineup is needed and I'd be extremely happy if they merge Lich with Specter/Ghost. Incorporeal spellcaster? It sound like fun for me.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 06, 2014 11:53 AM |
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Darkem said:
In H2,H3 and H4 (if we count heroes) Liches were never overdone. Unluckily, Ubi tends to put tones of tacky ornaments. I'd like to see levitating dried-up body in simple robes with a staff. Less is more and that would be enough...
True, I never got why they made Liches levitating lol
A 3D version of the H2 model with the scepter from H3 and we have something serious 
 
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alcibiades
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Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted December 06, 2014 11:58 AM |
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Galaad said:
War-overlord said:
Given the current lore, Skeletal Liches is out of the question.
The lore shall be caught in a death cloud.
This, please.
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War-overlord
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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted December 06, 2014 12:02 PM |
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alcibiades said:
Galaad said:
War-overlord said:
Given the current lore, Skeletal Liches is out of the question.
The lore shall be caught in a death cloud.
This, please.
War-overlord said:
We can say screw the lore all we want. Chances are, they ain't gonna change it and we'll just have to live with it.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 06, 2014 12:09 PM |
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War-overlord said:
We can say screw the lore all we want. Chances are, they ain't gonna change it and we'll just have to live with it.
You also said that you like to put your efforts to change things that are changeable, according to H5 Liches and considering the timeline, I believe there is some possibility of getting Skeletal Lich in MMH7 -given the fact we even see them, though I cannot find any reason why not.
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War-overlord
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posted December 06, 2014 12:14 PM |
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Galaad said:
You also said that you like to put your efforts to change things that are changeable, according to H5 Liches and considering the timeline, I believe there is some possibility of getting Skeletal Lich in MMH7 -given the fact we even see them, though I cannot find any reason why not.
Yes, well, as I've tried to explain to Zombi-wizard, I consider the H5 Liches appearance non-canon.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 06, 2014 12:22 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 12:29, 06 Dec 2014.
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Far from the intention of summoning an already elsewhere discussed topic again, I believe lore should serve units and their design and not enslave them.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted December 06, 2014 12:26 PM |
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Galaad said:
Far from the intention of summoning an already elsewhere discussed topic again, I believe lore should serve units and their design and not enslave them.
Viva la Revolucion! 
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Darkem
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posted December 06, 2014 12:32 PM |
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Edited by Darkem at 12:43, 06 Dec 2014.
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Caspar is a Lich? Isn't he?
He doesn't look good - as we now he lost part of his cheek - so I don't see a reason why Lich as a unit couldn't be portrayed as with rotten face/without jaw/without muscles on his (or her  )face.
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted December 06, 2014 12:37 PM |
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Darkem said:
Kaspar is a Lich? Isn't he?
He doesn't look good - as we now he lost part of his cheek - so I don't see a reason why Lich as a unit couldn't be portrayed as with rotten face/without jaw/without muscles on his (or her )face.
Caspar lost half his face in the same way Sandro lost all of his. By messing around with Void-magic and having it go wrong.
To have such Liches, they en-masse have to start dabling in forbidden Nethermancy.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted December 06, 2014 12:40 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 12:58, 06 Dec 2014.
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War-overlord said:
To have such Liches, they en-masse have to start dabling in forbidden Nethermancy.
Now this is sounding good, maybe some interesting story could be written about it.
And so, Liches would be faceless. *drumsjoke*
(why am I thinking of Dungeon twice in a row about this thread.. ).
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