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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 10:57 PM |
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missing head.. missig limb.. those are not the answer for a proper design.
how do you make it feel undead? a being overcome death and spreading it under its control? what is death loooking like? those are good questions to answer.
blackness, the unknown, mystery and fear, beyond the capacities of living.. those are what undead army should have in common.
a spider formed up from dead body pile, legs coming out from this pile to reach ground, from center of pile, a rising organic meat covered in spider skeleton-shell, and a head coming out of it, wih lots of eyes and a deadly mount at the end of it... thats what i dream now.
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cliff_nest
Hired Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 10:59 PM |
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The concept is too common if they say spider I see spider in my head from every day life. Used so many time in game in it's common form king's bounty is the perfect example. Something like [url=http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2011/119/9/3/undead_insect_by_artsbymars-d3f6lr4.jpg]that[/url] would be more refreshing.
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Sleeping_Sun
Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
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posted January 25, 2015 11:08 PM |
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cliff_nest said:
The concept is too common if they say spider I see spider in my head from every day life. Used so many time in game in it's common form king's bounty is the perfect example. Something like that would be more refreshing.
It looks like a mutated turtle...
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cliff_nest
Hired Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 11:16 PM |
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witch one would you like better rework on the plain spider or different concept ?
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted January 25, 2015 11:21 PM |
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted January 25, 2015 11:25 PM |
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted January 25, 2015 11:28 PM |
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a purple skull? cause that'd be kinda... not what i'm looking for.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted January 25, 2015 11:42 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 23:43, 25 Jan 2015.
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Personally, I'd go for a more Black Widow like design: thin, long legs, and a large, round mainbody. Kinda like this:
Then let its bite have a (small) chance to "zombify" an attacked stack, which turns the stack to control by the owner of the spider (or maybe just stuns it), until either an X-amount of units of that stack have perished, time has passed, unit is cured, etc ...
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 25, 2015 11:58 PM |
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I think a cooler unit would be like a Human Centipede-style Spider, sewn together from various corpses. But maybe that would be to morbid?
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted January 26, 2015 01:05 AM |
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xerox said:
I think a cooler unit would be like a Human Centipede-style Spider, sewn together from various corpses. But maybe that would be to morbid?
It is. Heroes' art. style should be rather pleasant for the eye and such spider isn't something nice. At all. 
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 02:41 AM |
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Its Necropolis we are talking about, the dead. Not Kinderpolis. Morbid, true horror inspired units would fit perfectly. Too bad we'll never get those.
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 12:23 PM |
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Definitely "yey". Spiders perfectly fit Ashan's Necropolis. I'm surprised that It took them so long to implement such an iconic creature to bestiary of Heroes game series  .
I understand that we complain about reused models, but spider is one of the completely fresh ones. To those who write that they would like see something less cliched and then mention zombies or ghouls: Seriously  ?
I'd like to see Mummy in the lineup, but if there's a unit to be replaced is for sure ghost, lich or lamasu.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 12:30 PM |
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[extremefanboymodeon]
YES! Why not! I'm blind to anything that they come up with because ashan is so freaking cool man! So awesome!!!
I like it that those spiders look like they come from World of Warcraft, the best game in history of mankind! Really awesome to see them in ashan too! Ashan rules! Ashan is cool!
I want the elemental-recycles in homm7 too! Give us a Lammasu made from fire to create a fire elemental, a lich from water for the water elemental, the earth elemental could be a minotaur made from earth and the air elemental could be reskinned from the mage and his flying carpet! (That was so not taken from Aladdin!)
COol awesome! I love it! Ilove that smile! I love HELLO HEROES! I love everything they come up with! I LOVE MY LIFE!
[/extremefanboymodeoff]
No, I hate the design, ugly, WOW-ish and boring.
NEXT! (Hint: Sell the game to a compagnie who does have money and does have fantasy skills) so the old fans can enjoy HOMM again.)
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted January 26, 2015 12:47 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
Its Necropolis we are talking about, the dead. Not Kinderpolis. Morbid, true horror inspired units would fit perfectly. Too bad we'll never get those.
I may be blind but I don't see so much horror in Heroes III neither V nor II. For some players it would be just too much of body horror.
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 12:50 PM |
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@Pawek_13
I completely agree with you. Moreover, spiders are one of the symbols and iconic features of horror genre.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 12:53 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
Stormcaller said:
Its Necropolis we are talking about, the dead. Not Kinderpolis. Morbid, true horror inspired units would fit perfectly. Too bad we'll never get those.
I may be blind but I don't see so much horror in Heroes III neither V nor II. For some players it would be just too much of body horror.
NEVER EVER compare the greatness of HOMM3 necropolis with this piece of recycle-bunch that is HOMM7 ever again.
its a crime on which should be put life in prison.
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 12:58 PM |
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Please guys, don't overreact. Aren't we too mature for it?
It's perfectly fine to compare new games to the old one. Why not? If the series want to develop we need to look forward, but remember the past.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 01:01 PM |
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Darkem said:
Please guys, don't overreact. Aren't we too mature for it?
It's perfectly fine to compare new games to the old one. Why not? If the series want to develop we need to look forward, but remember the past.
That is the problem darlin.
HOMM7 recycles the HOMM6 units most people hated the most *cough lich, cough vampire*, Cough lammasu*
That is not develop, that is being poor or being cheap.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 01:04 PM |
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Homm 2 and 3 is simply "classic horror genre motive".
Skeletons are just that - VIRTUALLY grinning bags of bones swinging a primitive weapon.
Zombies and Walking Dead are basically those from the classic zombie movies.
Wight/Wraiths are classic hooded ghosts.
HoMM 2 vampires are Christopher Lee Draculas, Homm 3s are the Nosferatus (from those movies).
Mummies are exactly that, with bandages.
Liches are somewhat skeletal kings with evil magic powers.
Dread Knights are a mix of apocalyptic riders and grim reapers.
Bone Dragons are an invention of them.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 26, 2015 01:06 PM |
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Comparing Ashan to Enroth and Axeoth is the sort of thing only a newfag fresh blood would do so lightly. The difference between them is like the difference between sky and earth.
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