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alcibiades
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posted January 24, 2015 08:18 PM |
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I vote "no" mostly because they seem to incarnate the very essence of what's bad with UbiSoft's incarnation of Necropolis (or Heroes, for that matter). It makes sense only from a lore perspective, and I want less lore and more mythology. On the other hand, I guess it's no more boring than a generic zombie unit could have been, so from that perspective, it's not my biggest objection towards the Necro units (that would be the Vampire's ridiculous sword).
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Kronos1000
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posted January 24, 2015 08:28 PM |
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I personally like the spiders, so I voted 'yes', but the fact that they take up the slot of another, more classic creature is a legitimate criticism in my opinion.
In my opinion the spiders aren't the problem with the current Necropolis. That would be the elites.
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blizzardboy
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posted January 24, 2015 08:51 PM |
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I guess my view is that there's such a large wealth of mythological creatures to pool from that would thematically fit into Necropolis, that having spiders as a core unit is kind of like walking into a 4-star restaurant and ordering chicken nuggets. I mean yeah, chicken nuggets taste good, but seriously Ubi bros, you could have picked something more interesting.
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Wellplay
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posted January 24, 2015 09:01 PM |
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Kimarous said:
I'm on the pro-spider side of the fence.
1) I feel that when a series is heavily built around lore, things should fit in that lore. In Ashan, spiders fit Necropolis.
2) I've grown to loathe zombies with a passion, so to have them removed and replaced is a good thing in my eyes.
3) I've noticed the trend of "two non-Champion four-square units" per faction, and it's one of Necropolis' big units.
4) I think the overreaction of people calling for change when it's JUST the (unfinished) model they're objecting to is more pathetic than the developers reusing assets.
And if you don't like my opinion, get over yourself.
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blizzardboy
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posted January 24, 2015 09:04 PM |
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Necropolis already has a Mesopotamian/Egyptian flavor to it, so you might as well have giant scarabs or scorpions rather than spiders, with Dwayne Johnson leading the horde as the tier 7 champion creature, riding a scorpion and dual wielding shotguns.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted January 24, 2015 09:29 PM |
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Kimarous said:
4) I think the overreaction of people calling for change when it's JUST the (unfinished) model they're objecting to is more pathetic than the developers reusing assets.
Yes, people should keep their reaction for times when everything is finished and it's too late to change anything at all. That makes perfect sense.
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Kimarous
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posted January 24, 2015 09:33 PM |
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artu said:
Kimarous said:
4) I think the overreaction of people calling for change when it's JUST the (unfinished) model they're objecting to is more pathetic than the developers reusing assets.
Yes, people should keep their reaction for times when everything is finished and it's too late to change anything at all. That makes perfect sense.
Is it too much to ask that people at least wait until A) we know some details about the gameplay changes, and/or B) the NON-WIP models are seen? I don't know about anyone else, but the Bone Dragon seems to scream "This is a rough asset that hasn't been finished yet, but we rushed out for the roster reveal."
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Wellplay
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Poland Stronk
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posted January 24, 2015 09:46 PM |
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Kimarous said:
artu said:
Kimarous said:
4) I think the overreaction of people calling for change when it's JUST the (unfinished) model they're objecting to is more pathetic than the developers reusing assets.
Yes, people should keep their reaction for times when everything is finished and it's too late to change anything at all. That makes perfect sense.
Is it too much to ask that people at least wait until A) we know some details about the gameplay changes, and/or B) the NON-WIP models are seen? I don't know about anyone else, but the Bone Dragon seems to scream "This is a rough asset that hasn't been finished yet, but we rushed out for the roster reveal."
Also waiting for upgraded units update.
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Stevie
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posted January 24, 2015 09:48 PM |
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Gryphs
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posted January 24, 2015 09:56 PM |
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I dislike the spider because it caters to nothing but lore in my opinion a lore I dislike.
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luiscarlosapeu
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posted January 25, 2015 01:02 AM |
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RMZ1989 said:
I am not against the Spiders as units, but I don't think that they should belong to Necropolis like this. If they are just giant living Spiders, they belong to the Dungeon far more than to the Necropolis.
So, nay for me. I would like more to see creatures that are actually undead.
If it is an undead spider?? 
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RMZ1989
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posted January 25, 2015 02:33 AM |
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luiscarlosapeu said:
RMZ1989 said:
I am not against the Spiders as units, but I don't think that they should belong to Necropolis like this. If they are just giant living Spiders, they belong to the Dungeon far more than to the Necropolis.
So, nay for me. I would like more to see creatures that are actually undead.
If it is an undead spider??
If it is undead Spider, it shouldn't look like a normal living giant Spider in the first place... As I said, I wouldn't have problems if it was Spider made of bones, but this is just too bland and isn't good core choice in my opinion.
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artu
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My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted January 25, 2015 02:46 AM |
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Well, not that I particularly like the spider but insects and arachnids have external skeletons (shells), so even the undead versions wouldnt have bones, they would have the exoskeleton that would look quite the same.
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fred79
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posted January 25, 2015 04:02 AM |
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blizzardboy said:
Necropolis already has a Mesopotamian/Egyptian flavor to it, so you might as well have giant scarabs or scorpions rather than spiders, with Dwayne Johnson leading the horde as the tier 7 champion creature, riding a scorpion and dual wielding shotguns.
lol. 
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Alex_Yakub
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posted January 25, 2015 09:31 AM |
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Voted yes. Really guys? We have the whole elite tier copied from H6, and you don't like the only unique core unit this faction has? 
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kiryu133
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posted January 25, 2015 11:22 AM |
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blizzardboy said:
Necropolis already has a Mesopotamian/Egyptian flavor to it, so you might as well have giant scarabs or scorpions rather than spiders, with Dwayne Johnson leading the horde as the tier 7 champion creature, riding a scorpion and dual wielding shotguns.
This is now my headcannon for ashan necro. every other version of necro is clearly inferior and fake.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 25, 2015 11:37 AM |
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Alex_Yakub said:
Voted yes. Really guys? We have the whole elite tier copied from H6, and you don't like the only unique core unit this faction has?
Would you have wanted Ravens or Crows in HoMM 2 or HoMM 3 Necro faction?
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Kimarous
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posted January 25, 2015 11:40 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
Would you have wanted Ravens or Crows in HoMM 2 or HoMM 3 Necro faction?
Where they omnipresent iconic symbols?
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RMZ1989
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posted January 25, 2015 11:43 AM |
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artu said:
Well, not that I particularly like the spider but insects and arachnids have external skeletons (shells), so even the undead versions wouldnt have bones, they would have the exoskeleton that would look quite the same.
No, I mean the Spider created out of Bones, as some sort of construct made by Necromancers. Not the actual dead Spider brought back to life.
They already had that Bone Spider as catapult in Heroes 6.
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JollyJoker
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posted January 25, 2015 12:14 PM |
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Kimarous said:
JollyJoker said:
Would you have wanted Ravens or Crows in HoMM 2 or HoMM 3 Necro faction?
Where they omnipresent iconic symbols?
Would you want to have an "omnipresent iconic symbol" as a trivial animal in an army of undead horrors? EVEN LESS than a "not omnipresent but universally regarded symbol of death" right?
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