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Kayna
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posted February 28, 2015 03:50 PM |
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Russian club raided because a lesbian couple kissed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5V6fR6WXms
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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2015 05:32 PM |
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Edited by Orzie at 17:36, 28 Feb 2015.
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Pffffft. Thousands of lesbians kiss everyday in Russia and God doesn't strike down. Such a lame hype. You'd better feed us more cool stories about the North Korean leader changing his haircut.
Besides, that photo with kissing girls in aeroplane is a sarcastic selfie covering the Russian government member on the back (ginger dude) who is famous for his anti-lgbt sentences (aside from other no less stupid statements). That photo was highly popular in Russian social networks because that dude is not liked by anyone.
We have gay clubs where people not only find a sex partner for a night but even can be prostitutes, and no one raided them ever.
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mvassilev
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posted February 28, 2015 06:41 PM |
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Orzie said:
Thousands of lesbians kiss everyday in Russia and God doesn't strike down.
It's a problem that it happens at all. "It usually doesn't happen" is a weak counterargument - "usually" isn't good enough.
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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2015 07:07 PM |
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Edited by Orzie at 19:13, 28 Feb 2015.
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Taking one single case and posing it as an ordinary one is also nothing but a mere propaganda. And you take it as this is typical for Russia, i.e. you are successfully brainwashed and already have prejudices about this country, because you are expected to.
Clubs get raided for various reasons, the one e.g. being the drugs which are present in every club.
Also, don't you notice it's too much threads created about Russia lately? And no one finds it strange. Western media at its best.
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"usually" isn't good enough.
You know, we don't care. There is no ultimate way of living, dude.
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Neraus
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posted February 28, 2015 07:19 PM |
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It's the young Turks, what did you expect?
I'll admit I don't follow them too often, but I saw their titles and they tend to go in this direction (at least in my perception).
I also noticed that apparently it happened in a lesbian club, pretty strange to allow such a thing in a homophobic country...
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fred79
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posted February 28, 2015 07:26 PM |
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i couldn't go to a lesbian club; i'd stand out like a sore thumb. maybe if i threw on a wig and shaved off my goatee... maybe THEN i could get some hot scissor action... 
oh yeahhhhh. just me, lezzin' out. 
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Minion
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posted February 28, 2015 08:40 PM |
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Orzie you might be living in denial if you think Russia is not homophobic compared to the rest of Europe. The young people are not, granted, but the laws and attitudes of your regime certainly are.
That being said, there are too many threads on this topic...
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artu
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posted February 28, 2015 08:49 PM |
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Minion said:
That being said, there are too many threads on this topic...
+1
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Kayna
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posted February 28, 2015 08:50 PM |
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Actually, the young turks have no problem talking about homosexuals being abused in America. It's just that one day, it's Russia, the next, it's the US.
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Zenofex
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posted February 28, 2015 08:53 PM |
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I think his point is that this "Russia's homophobic" topic is getting blown out of proportion. The general conservatism preached by the government aside, the Western countries host enough -phobes to make this focus on Russia look a bit (and sometimes not just a bit) hypocritical.
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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2015 09:16 PM |
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Edited by Orzie at 21:29, 28 Feb 2015.
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I would only wish America to deal with the N word first before sticking its snowing nose to the Eastern tolerance problems. The case of Ferguson shows there is still lotta work.
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Orzie you might be living in denial if you think Russia is not homophobic compared to the rest of Europe.
Russia is not Europe. Geographically it is, at some degree, but culturally we differ.
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I think his point is that this "Russia's homophobic" topic is getting blown out of proportion.
It just doesn't differ from the thesis "Europe's perverted" which is no less forced via Russian propaganda. Boring.
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xerox
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posted February 28, 2015 10:52 PM |
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This is not a question of "culture. Being gay or perverted or whatever totalirarian russians call it is a HUMAN RIGHT. Period.
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fred79
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posted February 28, 2015 10:54 PM |
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lol, humans have rights to anything. good one, xerox. 
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mvassilev
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posted March 01, 2015 04:47 AM |
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This sort of thing doesn't happen in a vacuum, it happens because of a general homophobic culture.Quote:
You know, we don't care. There is no ultimate way of living, dude.
So if some government decides to commit mass murder, can they deflect criticism with "there is no ultimate way of living"? I doubt you'd accept that, and since you wouldn't, the only thing left is to determine what's better and what's worse.
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orzie
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posted March 01, 2015 05:46 AM |
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You exaggerate as always. And yeah, there are too many topics about that.
I say it again - you'd better fix your own problems before meddling into ours.
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Darkshadow
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posted March 01, 2015 09:06 AM |
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Just because a discussion participant's country has problems doesn't necessarily mean they can't discuss about the problems of other countries.
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artu
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posted March 01, 2015 09:44 AM |
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Edited by artu at 09:56, 01 Mar 2015.
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"Mind your own business" is not the most sophisticated counter-argument for sure, but a thread once a week about Russia and homosexuality is becoming too much. It's not the most important issue in the world, they are not executing gays or sending them to Siberia for hard labor. Their status in Russia is probably not much different from their status 30 years ago in the West. That is not exactly Auschwitz, is it.
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orzie
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posted March 01, 2015 09:56 AM |
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Born and raised in Siberia 
Besides, discussion is not restricted. The thing is the current political tensions serve as a nice background for forming a negative opinion a priori.
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OhforfSake
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posted March 02, 2015 01:15 PM |
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mvassilev said:
Orzie said:
Thousands of lesbians kiss everyday in Russia and God doesn't strike down.
It's a problem that it happens at all. "It usually doesn't happen" is a weak counterargument - "usually" isn't good enough.
In my opinion that's too general. I'll say it depends on circumstances.
If it's because of some criminals, then it may be a more isolated problem.. but when it's the law, then it's a huge issue.
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