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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 06, 2015 10:28 PM

Poll Question:
Week of the Storm

A small but not so small thing Iím curious about is what people think of the Week of the Storm week?
Creatures cannot perform range attacks.
Movement cost on Water are increased by 25%.


A week when your shooters cannot shoot.




Iím ok with weeks in general (btw why does week of creatures only gives growth and not stats boost as well?) and I donít mind the sea penalty at all but I donít really understand the purpose of forbidding shooters to shoot. If anything I find it irritating.
I could maybe get the flavor if it lasts only for a day, but a full week is seriously too much.
In fact, I think it delays the fun. Ie if it happens week 2 and youíre playing Sylvan, pretty annoying.
Werenít you thrilled of this fresh Master Hunter stack you were about to use?
Well you canít, and for the next seven days.

The battles I had this week just made them last longer while being less exciting at the same time, only frustrated to have shooters I cannot use.

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I suggest:

a) Remove the ďcreatures cannot perform attackĒ script from the week
And eventually replace it with adding a penalty on land movement too, so it matches with the sea penalty.

b) Have the script only effective one day.
One day when shooters canít shoot should be enough, have it trigger at random during the week.

c) Remove the whole week or at least make it optional.


Opinions?
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Responses:
Remove the shooters can't shoot for a week script
Have the script only effective one day
Remove the week or make it optional
Keep the week as it is
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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted September 06, 2015 10:48 PM

Week Of High Atmospere Pressure - flying units cannot fly
Week Of Magnetic Storm - mages cannot cast
Week Of Beer Shortage - armies cannot fight

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EnergyZ
EnergyZ


Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
posted September 06, 2015 10:52 PM

That's a bit insanely powerful to have it as a week. Usually it is always about subtlety, like growth to a certain unit, reducing cost of upgrades or changing the spell cost.

But that a certain unit cannot fly, use ability or shoot is a bit too much. If anything, it can be left to higher difficulty.

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Neovius
Neovius


Adventuring Hero
posted September 06, 2015 11:05 PM

What about instead of removing the effect completely, make it so that ranged units have a % damage reduction or something more interesting like not being able to achieve full range damage, even if enemy units are close to you.
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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
posted September 06, 2015 11:12 PM

Neovius said:
What about instead of removing the effect completely, make it so that ranged units have a % damage reduction or something more interesting like not being able to achieve full range damage, even if enemy units are close to you.

I would go with that option.

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted September 06, 2015 11:18 PM

EnergyZ said:
That's a bit insanely powerful to have it as a week. Usually it is always about subtlety, like growth to a certain unit, reducing cost of upgrades or changing the spell cost.

Hear, hear!

Galaad said:
Iím ok with weeks in general (btw why does week of creatures only gives growth and not stats boost as well?)

Because that could lead to unfair imbalances?
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TD
TD


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 06, 2015 11:19 PM

It should be damage reduction or for example full range units turn into half-range. In general I wouldn't mind week as it is, but if I think about pvp coming down to for example academy might player who relies on 3 shooters and suddenly they can't shoot because this week happens...

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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 06, 2015 11:23 PM

Week of AI - Double AI turns;
Week of the Devs - Not a good week to be a Fan.
Week of Heroes of Might & Magic - A week when epitome in trolling the fanbase is achieved.
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted September 06, 2015 11:26 PM

Stevie said:
Week of AI - Double AI turns;

I thought that one is always active!
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verriker
verriker


Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
posted September 06, 2015 11:28 PM

Stevie said:
Week of Might & Magic Heroes - A week when epitome in trolling the fanbase is achieved.


fixed that for you lol
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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted September 06, 2015 11:52 PM

I agree with TD on this one; I miss an option in the poll for "reduced damage" and/or "reduced range" with a percentage that doens't come anywhere near the 100% it is at now.

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kiryu133
kiryu133


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted September 06, 2015 11:57 PM

Neovius said:
What about instead of removing the effect completely, make it so that ranged units have a % damage reduction or something more interesting like not being able to achieve full range damage, even if enemy units are close to you.


I'd like this. Maybe even go as far as stopping all ranged attacks past the full damage line and have those attacks do half.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted September 06, 2015 11:57 PM

Maurice said:
I miss an option in the poll for "reduced damage" and/or "reduced range" with a percentage that doens't come anywhere near the 100% it is at now.

That could be option a), as it removes the "shooters can't shoot" thing. The suggestion I made for replacement is ofc not set in stone, in fact I find this solution you guys are suggesting to be much better!
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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 07, 2015 12:02 AM
Edited by Stevie at 00:03, 07 Sep 2015.

That solution has been suggested ages ago, just as a spell. Or was it as an underlying mechanic? Can't recall.
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TD
TD


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 07, 2015 02:11 AM

Stevie said:
That solution has been suggested ages ago, just as a spell. Or was it as an underlying mechanic? Can't recall.


Your point being...? A lot of suggestion have been made over the years and devs have done(and will keep doing) their best to ignore them...

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted September 07, 2015 04:31 AM

I'm fine with forces you to play different, and I know people hate to be pulled out of their comfort zone but hoow else are you going tto learn something new :-)

Make it one day is a nonesence option, as well as making it optional. Dmg reduction would be better but neh, just let the game be evill on you :-P.
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blizzardboy
blizzardboy


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
posted September 07, 2015 04:38 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 04:39, 07 Sep 2015.

Quote:
Creatures cannot perform range attacks.


Oh, now that sounds like too much fun.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 07, 2015 04:44 AM

Such features should come as fans mods, prohibiting shooting is lame for multiplayer. Here we see difference between "I wake up with one super idea out of my ass" and the plague from Heroes 3, fair, affects both players.

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The_Green_drag
The_Green_drag


Supreme Hero
posted September 07, 2015 05:58 AM

May I suggest a "week of no strong melee walking elite unit with some sort of no retaliation ability" it's a week where you can't use your factions strong elite walking unit who all have some kind of (totally unique) no retaliation ability.

some of them happen all the time, others only happen on a critical strike! Whoa!

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted September 07, 2015 06:49 AM

Dave_Jame said:
I'm fine with forces you to play different, and I know people hate to be pulled out of their comfort zone but hoow else are you going tto learn something new :-)

Make it one day is a nonesence option, as well as making it optional. Dmg reduction would be better but neh, just let the game be evill on you :-P.

This is not about forcing you out of your comfort zone, this is about making several units totally useless. It's just the stupidest thing ever.

At this point, they could also make a week of shy dragons, when dragons refuse to fight. Oh yeah, that's so much fun !

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