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Thread: Saturation level poll (colors everywhere!!!) This thread is 5 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 · «PREV / NEXT»
Stevie
Stevie


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Undefeatable Hero
posted October 16, 2015 05:59 PM

This poll is here to send the message across.
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Kless
Kless


Hired Hero
posted October 16, 2015 06:17 PM

And why not to explain how to do ? A tutorial. Everyone will be able to choose his favorite configuration.
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dark-whisperer
dark-whisperer


Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
posted October 16, 2015 06:39 PM
Edited by dark-whisperer at 18:55, 16 Oct 2015.

I already wrote few pages back on discussion thread how to use Reshade and MasterEffect but ill write it here too again:

Put these files into folder with MMH7Game-Win64-Shipping.exe (...Might and Magic Heroes VII/Binaries/Win64) and modify file MasterEffect.h in text editor to see immediate effect on screen. For saturation enable USE_VIBRANCE (change 0 to 1) or for fine tuning enable USE_TONEMAP and then under //TONEMAP adjust #define Saturation to the desired percent (0.500 is 50% more saturation). In provided file I already set saturation to 35%.

Somebody with greater knowledge in graphic design can modify many different effect and make perfect Heroes preset. I've touched only saturation. Best thing is as soon as you save changes in MasterEffect.h file,  effect is applied immediately so you can see right away what you did.

Original Reshade and MasterEffect files if you want to install everything manually are here:

Reshade: http://reshade.me/

MasterEffect: http://reshade.me/forum/shader-presentation/161-mastereffect-reborn-official-thread

YouTube tutorial by Woodenpotatoes: Clicky

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Quique30
Quique30


Adventuring Hero
posted October 16, 2015 06:40 PM

30%-40%. I fear much more, though pretty, will be tiring for the eyes in long games.

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sobaka770
sobaka770


Hired Hero
posted October 16, 2015 06:59 PM
Edited by sobaka770 at 19:05, 16 Oct 2015.

to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced the increasing saturation solves the problem. I lean more towards changing the sun hue to something warmer (and softer?) as currently the lighting in game, in my opinion, is too harsh and cold. Increasign saturation doesn't solve that problem. I took the existing screenshots and added warmth (through Picasa) instead of increasing saturation here are the results:

[url=http://i.imgur.com/5pvLZ0A.jpg]Adventure Map Original[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/SGZwuj9.jpg]Adventure Map (Warm)[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/5cCpEWm.jpg]Adventure Map 50% Saturaion[/url]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/AzpO4qh.jpg]Battefield 1 no saturation[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/wZbkEdr.jpg]Battlefield 1 (Warm)[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/bWK2o3H.jpg]Battlefield 1 +50% saturation[/url]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/oM0ECoG.jpg]Battefield 2 no saturation[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/nuvKwHs.jpg]Battlefield 2 (Warm)[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/dBoF3Rs.jpg]Battlefield 2 +50% saturation[/url]

[url=http://i.imgur.com/bogrsSA.jpg]Battefield 3 no saturation[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/8rjraXU.jpg]Battlefield 3 (Warm)[/url]
[url=http://i.imgur.com/ww4Hv3x.jpg]Battlefield 3 +50% saturation[/url]

If there is an option to tweak the sun settings, it may also be easier to implement. Any opinions?

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Kless
Kless


Hired Hero
posted October 16, 2015 07:00 PM

dark-whisperer said:
I already wrote few pages back on discussion thread how to use Reshade and MasterEffect but ill write it here too again:

Put [url=http://www.megafileupload.com/9viH/Heroes_Reshade.zip
]these[/url] files into folder with MMH7Game-Win64-Shipping.exe (...Might and Magic Heroes VII/Binaries/Win64) and modify file MasterEffect.h in text editor to see immediate effect on screen. For saturation enable USE_VIBRANCE (change 0 to 1) or for fine tuning enable USE_TONEMAP and then under //TONEMAP adjust #define Saturation to the desired percent (0.500 is 50% more saturation). In provided file I already set saturation to 35%.

Somebody with greater knowledge in graphic design can modify many different effect and make perfect Heroes preset. I've touched only saturation. Best thing is as soon as you make changes in MasterEffect.h file change on screen is immediate so you can see right away what you did.

Original Reshade and MasterEffect files if you want to install everything manually are here:

Reshade: [url=http://reshade.me/]http://reshade.me/[/url]

MasterEffect: [url=http://reshade.me/forum/shader-presentation/161-mastereffect-reborn-official-thread]http://reshade.me/forum/shader-presentation/161-mastereffect-reborn-official-thread[/url]

YouTube tutorial by Woodenpotatoes: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5i5-2X4wMA]Clicky[/url]


Of course, I have already read this and Downloaded Reshade and mastereffect. But this file [url=http://www.megafileupload.com/9viH/Heroes_Reshade.zip
] unavailable.
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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted October 16, 2015 07:30 PM

sobaka770 said:
to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced the increasing saturation solves the problem. I lean more towards changing the sun hue to something warmer (and softer?) as currently the lighting in game, in my opinion, is too harsh and cold. Increasign saturation doesn't solve that problem. I took the existing screenshots and added warmth (through Picasa) instead of increasing saturation here are the results:

Adventure Map Original
Adventure Map (Warm)
Adventure Map 50% Saturaion
Battlefield 3 (Warm)
Battlefield 3 +50% saturation



what about 50% warm saturation?
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dark-whisperer
dark-whisperer


Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
posted October 16, 2015 08:21 PM

Kless said:
Of course, I have already read this and Downloaded Reshade and mastereffect. But this file [url=http://www.megafileupload.com/9viH/Heroes_Reshade.zip] unavailable.


Uploaded again

If you have any other site you would like me to upload these files just tell me.

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Gryphs
Gryphs


Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
posted October 16, 2015 09:27 PM
Edited by Gryphs at 21:27, 16 Oct 2015.

sobaka770 said:
to be honest, I'm not entirely convinced the increasing saturation solves the problem. I lean more towards changing the sun hue to something warmer (and softer?) as currently the lighting in game, in my opinion, is too harsh and cold. Increasign saturation doesn't solve that problem. I took the existing screenshots and added warmth (through Picasa) instead of increasing saturation here are the results:

Adventure Map Original
Adventure Map (Warm)
Adventure Map 50% Saturaion

Battefield 1 no saturation
Battlefield 1 (Warm)
Battlefield 1 +50% saturation

Battefield 2 no saturation
Battlefield 2 (Warm)
Battlefield 2 +50% saturation

Battefield 3 no saturation
Battlefield 3 (Warm)
Battlefield 3 +50% saturation

If there is an option to tweak the sun settings, it may also be easier to implement. Any opinions?
I like the 50% shading when it comes to the adventure map, but the battle maps especially the last two I prefer the "warm" look.
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Kless
Kless


Hired Hero
posted October 16, 2015 10:46 PM
Edited by Kless at 22:50, 16 Oct 2015.

dark-whisperer said:
Kless said:
Of course, I have already read this and Downloaded Reshade and mastereffect. But this file [url=http://www.megafileupload.com/9viH/Heroes_Reshade.zip] unavailable.


[url=http://www.filedropper.com/heroesreshade]Uploaded again[/url]

If you have any other site you would like me to upload these files just tell me.


Thanks ! These tweaks are simply amazing. The game look more warm. I tried many configurations but the choice is difficult...

I like the 100%... But I like with only #define USE_VIBRANCE activated too.

[url=http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/42/1445027818-vibrant-version.png]Vibrant version[/url]


[url=http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/42/1445027816-100.png]100% Tonemap version[/url]

Finally, the Tonemap version is better, a little more natural... What do you think?
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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted October 16, 2015 10:47 PM

I am amazed. So cool!
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Gryphs
Gryphs


Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
posted October 16, 2015 10:53 PM
Edited by Gryphs at 22:55, 16 Oct 2015.

The wheat almost looks like it is glowing and lighting up the mountains with its light; it also looks like a perpetual sunset. Other than that though it is nicer than the original, and the resources are much easier to see which is quite nice.
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
posted October 16, 2015 11:02 PM

I believe it is important to emphasize Stevie's point about applying the changes at texture level and not as a whole, since the UI is better without so much saturation, mountains seem to get odd too.
Stevie said:
But I see the mountains getting green also. Maybe this should be improved at a texture level? In any case, something MUST be done because currently the game is washed out and grey, and these immediate results are so good that I think it's very much worth.

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3lion
3lion


Known Hero
posted October 16, 2015 11:14 PM

Storm-Giant said:
I believe it is important to emphasize Stevie's point about applying the changes at texture level and not as a whole, since the UI is better without so much saturation

Absolutely . Devs definitely must find a way to increase saturation of all textures, except interface. It is possible to mod all textures. Though it's gonna be backbreaking labor.

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dark-whisperer
dark-whisperer


Famous Hero
Darkness feels no mercy
posted October 17, 2015 12:12 AM
Edited by dark-whisperer at 00:13, 17 Oct 2015.

I think if they can desaturate UI elements and portraits and then increase overall saturation that would be easier.

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Gryphs
Gryphs


Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
posted October 17, 2015 12:15 AM

You would still get things like green or gold mountains though.
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Kless
Kless


Hired Hero
posted October 17, 2015 03:05 AM
Edited by Kless at 03:07, 17 Oct 2015.

After two hours in the game, I can say : HEROES OF MIGHT AND MAGIC VII IS INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL in 100% saturation. Try it!

A great patch, and now a beautiful fairy-like Heroes.
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yasmiel
yasmiel


Supreme Hero
Former Chessmaster
posted October 17, 2015 04:29 PM

100% wins for me as well.
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Antalyan
Antalyan


Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
posted October 17, 2015 07:27 PM

60% for me.

Amazing job, Dark whisperer.

It seems like the game has finally woken up!

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sirloccothan
sirloccothan


Hired Hero
ProGamer
posted October 19, 2015 01:34 AM
Edited by sirloccothan at 01:52, 19 Oct 2015.

Just Use RadeonPRO (ATI Radeon GPU's) or simply add more Saturation in CAT manager Display Colour or Use Reshade + SweetFX !
As for Nvidia GPU's use Color Vibrance ;-) or Reshade

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