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Hotarubi
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posted November 19, 2015 01:30 AM |
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Dungeon Map 1 Help!
Foreword: I know there is a Campaign thread, but it's been marked SPOILERS, and since I still have the Dungeon and Necro campaigns to go through, don't wanna get spoiled by accident.
Anyway, regarding the Dungeon campaign, Map 1 and that stupid b*%$# of a Sylvan hero, Jenova...
Am I missing something here? I've watched a couple of Campaign videos on youtube outlining how the players got through the map, and neither one did anything special. They both just stayed away from the northern part of the map (on the surface, not underground) and somehow managed to avoid Jenova's wrath. Far be it for me to explain how a Sylvan hero is commanding a throng of liches and spiders in the first place...
Anyway, I've already reloaded this map twice. The second time, even copying the exact same build and movements of one of the YouTube players, and no luck. Both times--
JENOVA GOES FOR MY CASTLE EARLY TO MID WEEK 2, THAT SCRIPTING WENCH! WEEK F'in TWO!!!
So... help?
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted November 19, 2015 02:01 AM |
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Well, in my game she didnt go for the castle. But to kill the target Sylvan hero i basically got as close as i could without triggering her with Vayaron, then lured her from the other side with Malwen to get her away, hit with Vayaron and made Malwen run the snow away.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 19, 2015 08:30 AM |
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...Run?
I remember she entered the underground early and I got the hell away fast  Thank goodness she did not pursue.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted November 19, 2015 09:54 AM |
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What difficulty are you playing at?
I do remember Jenova running around with Undead units for some reason, but she never moved anywhere near my Town. I did eventually meet her on the battlefield, but at that moment she was easy enough to defeat.
Did you move up towards Sylvan controlled territory? I avoided that for a while, just exploring the map first as well as I could.
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Hotarubi
Known Hero
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posted November 19, 2015 10:09 PM |
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Hello!
@ Elvin, how far did she get in the underground? Did she actually attack your castle?
@ Maurice, I am playing on Normal. Pls don't judge. I also avoided the northern part in my first playthrough and boom, she just appears on the northwest part of the underground, right near where the ore mine is located.
In any case, I restarted the map completely for une troisieme fois and this time, she hasn't meddled in the underground yet. However, I'm just about to begin Week 3. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted November 19, 2015 10:53 PM |
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I don't see why you'd play above normal. There is no AI strength, the AI is rarely allowed to attack the player and the only things making the game harder are.. artificial. Neutral strength and growth? Whatever, they only delay you and waste your time in longer battles. I only gave AI rich resources which I doubt if it changed anything.
And nope, she didn't pursue deeper in my territory.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted November 19, 2015 11:12 PM |
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Hotarubi said:
@ Maurice, I am playing on Normal. Pls don't judge. I also avoided the northern part in my first playthrough and boom, she just appears on the northwest part of the underground, right near where the ore mine is located.
I played it through on Normal as well  . I don't feel the urge to play harder difficulties, as I am mainly just kicking back after a days of work  .
I do remember one Hero entering the underground near the Ore Pit that you mentioned, but she took the path skirting my Town and its AoC, to head for the exit on the far side of that ledge. Not sure why. When that Hero appeared (not Jenova, by the way), she had an army that was stronger than mine, until I bought all creatures I could. I destroyed that army somewhere week 2 or maybe 3 or so.
Jenova only became a pain once I started to get close to Sylvan territory, but when I did, my army was matching up to hers. After defeating her, the map was basically won.
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Simpelicity
Promising
Famous Hero
Video maker
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posted December 04, 2015 04:59 AM |
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In my let's play she didn't just enter the underground, she reached her destination. She's actually going through your lands to flag the border guard gate thing (with troops and all) that seperates Vayaron's starting position from the south area. Just let her pass. Better yet, use it to sneak in, best time to do so. She flags it and then just goes back to patrolling her area.
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Hotarubi
Known Hero
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posted December 05, 2015 12:46 AM |
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I'm way past this map now, but the thing was, she literally attacked my castle the first time... The second time, she entered my view in the underground, and didn't bother to wait and see what she'd do next. Cuz yknow, first impressions.
But thanks everyone. I managed to get through it.
I did get the skills/magic bug with Vayaron in map 3 so I had to restart at an earlier save.
Now it's triggered again with Zenda Necro map 5. Of all the...!!! Patches are supposed to remove bugs, not create new ones. Sigh.
Does anyone know what might trigger this bug? I just loaded my last save file for Necro map 2, and Zenda's skills and magic are intact. So I didn't clear that map with the bug in the save file. Restarting Map 5 still yields the same buggy result so which leads me to believe, the bug triggered probably in maps 3 or 4 (most likely 4, since my secondary generic hero had the bug happen to her and I didn't bother reloading. It seems the bug had already triggered by my earliest save file and seeing that a) large map + b) desert = time consuming... I left it alone).
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