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posted July 22, 2020 04:49 PM |
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Seventh-day Adventist Church is also interesting. Catholic is a very different. Such! And Russia hates American Christianity. I think so. When Mormon, Scientology, and today Jehovah's witnesses. What today I read and what Russian guy said to me. In the future Russia hasn't American Church. Sure.
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posted July 22, 2020 05:25 PM |
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Here is an article from a Catholic perspective (which reiterates what I previously was saying) for your viewing pleasure:
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12792a.htm
"Resurrectio carnis" - of the body - is considered distinct from the soul, which does not experience any bodily death. This already has a background in Judaism prior to Christ.
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posted July 22, 2020 05:40 PM |
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That's all good, but I'm still not entirely sure how do you reconcile your views with the many Bible verses that liken death to sleep and say that in the grave there is no remembrance, the dead know nothing, the soul that sins shall die, and so forth.
And then there's the verse from Genesis that I quoted numerous times in this thread that says "man became a living soul", and not "man has a soul", and absolutely nothing is said about the immortality of such a "soul".
The Bible nowhere says, as your article states, that "the soul cannot die". In fact it doesn't say that the soul is separate from the body, rather a "soul" signifies the human being. You don't have a soul. You are a soul.
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posted November 12, 2020 02:45 AM |
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Question for people that don't live in the United States:
Do you have in your country any Christian leaders who emulate the bible thumping, evangelical stylings of protestant American preachers? Is that just an American thing or does it exist elsewhere too?
Do you see in your country any oratorical styles that resemble that? For example are there any muslims that emulate that style? Or car salesmen, or whatever?
Also, have you heard of or read any secular writers like Dr. Robert Price or Bart Ehrman?
Just curious what things are like outside the terrordome.
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posted November 12, 2020 08:34 AM |
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posted November 12, 2020 09:06 AM |
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Edited by artu at 09:07, 12 Nov 2020.
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Not exactly in the style of televangelicalism but religion is a big part of politics in here (Turkey), especially since AKP is in power. You can even say, the core polarization of the country is between the seculars and Islamists. Quran is a political book which only makes sense when believers rule over non-believers and Muhammed’s very own story is a story of rise to political power, so the relation between politics and religion is harsher here. Things like turning Hagia Sophia back into a mosque are still a big deal.
Havent heard the first one but I’ve read a book by Bart Ehrman, yes, Jesus Interrupted. But I wouldnt say he’s a popular writer where I live. It was my own curiousity.
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posted November 12, 2020 09:24 AM |
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Here we have only three acceptable Christian denominations, which in order are: Roman Catholic, Russian Orthodox and Russian Old Believer. we do have some Lutherans, Methodists and baptists, but they're practically non existant at this point.
Stuff like televangelists would by literally lynched by a mob of angry babushkas. We do have cathecism classes in school, but those usually focus on what is the Catholic Church, how it operates and what wisdom Jesus taught. and one may choose either cathecism or ethics class in non Christian public schools , at least in my days.
teaching creationism, or advocating aggressively for it as they do in US would be met pretty much with the same consequences as my televangelist example.
Devout babushkas are really rabid regarding those questions. Some take it to more extremes than others though and with their ferocity can ruin the churchgoing experience for others. either during mass or when visiting one of the old churches as a tour.
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posted November 12, 2020 12:05 PM |
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Emotional protestant style is characteristics. In Poland only semiprotestant groups make it.
We have infiltration of toronto blessing style madness inside Church:
toronto beasting madness
Beware its demonic.
True Church based od wisdom mind and free will.
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posted November 12, 2020 01:00 PM |
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lol at the vid.
The oratorical style of the preacher in that video though is mostly what I'm interested in, not necessarily the message that's being preached.
Thanks for the answers.
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posted November 12, 2020 02:10 PM |
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Thought that was rather common, actually. Although, around here in Brazil, just a very few selected branches of Evangelic church do that sort of thing – and fewer represented in that video. Named Universal Church. It has a very nasty reputation. My sister's church in Peru has some manner of preachery you mentioned, but much less ... 'invasive' or cataclysmic.
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