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Thread: NASA will be able to send humans to Mars in roughly 15 to 30 years
Herry
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posted December 27, 2015 07:10 PM
Edited by Herry at 19:20, 27 Dec 2015.

NASA will be able to send humans to Mars in roughly 15 to 30 years

Big news! Even bigger for lovers of astronomy! NASA's Journey to Mars will happen in roughly 20 years, which is kind-of near future.

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NASA is developing the capabilities needed to send humans to an asteroid by 2025 and Mars in the 2030s – goals outlined in the bipartisan NASA Authorization Act of 2010 and in the U.S. National Space Policy, also issued in 2010.


There is also this article which is about the spacecraft used for this Journey, called "Orion".

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Orion is the first spacecraft built for astronauts destined for deep space since the storied Apollo missions of the 1960s and 70s. It is designed to go farther than humans have ever traveled, well beyond the moon, pushing the boundaries of spaceflight to new heights.

Orion will open the space between Earth and Mars for exploration by astronauts. This proving ground will be invaluable for testing capabilities future human Mars missions will need. The area around our moon, in particular, called cis-lunar space, is a rich environment for testing human exploration needs, like advanced spacewalking suits, navigating using gravity, and protecting astronauts from radiation and extreme temperatures.

One of Orion's early missions in the 2020s will send astronauts to explore an asteroid, which will be placed in a stable orbit around the moon using a robotic spacecraft. This Asteroid Redirect Mission will test new technologies, like Solar Electric Propulsion, which will help us send heavy cargo to Mars in advance of human missions. Astronauts aboard Orion will return to Earth with samples of the asteroid, having tested a number of collection tools and techniques we'll use in future human missions to Mars or its moons.


And then we have this article which describes a three-step plan to get humans on Mars.

Phase one: Earth Reliant



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Phase one is called Earth Reliant, and we're already well into it - it involves research projects carried out on the International Space Station (ISS), looking at how living in space for extended periods of time can affect the human body. Mars is about 140 times further away from Earth than the Moon is, and it's going to take us at least 150 days to get there (based on the capabilities of existing technology).

Other experiments being carried out on board the ISS at the moment cover 3D printing, advanced communications systems, and extravehicular operations. The aim is to develop technologies that enable us to go deeper into space for longer periods of time.



Phase two: Proving Ground



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"NASA will learn to conduct complex operations in a deep space environment that allows crews to return to Earth in a matter of days," says the official document. Most of this phase will be located in what's known as cislunar space, which is the space around the Moon.

On the agency's list of targets in phase two is another deep-space habitation facility to go alongside the ISS, as well as tests of the new Space Launch System (SLS). The SLS rocket and accompanying Orion spacecraft should enable us to go farther into space than ever before, and a launch has been pencilled in for 2018. Throughout phase two, NASA wants to see astronauts, space stations, and rockets reducing their reliance on Earth, although a quick trip back home will still be possible if necessary.



Phase three: Earth Independent



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Earth Independent - the name gives away what the idea is here. It includes manned missions to the Martian moons and eventually the Martian surface, and once we've set foot on the Red Planet tests and experiments can begin to figure out how best to establish life. By this stage, missions will need to be self-sustaining, with minimal reliance on people back home.

"Future Mars missions will represent a collaborative effort among NASA and its partners - a global achievement that marks a transition in humanity’s expansion as we go to Mars not just to visit, but to stay," says NASA. The first settlers will eventually need to be able to create their own fuel, water, oxygen, and building materials from the resources available on the Red Planet.


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Salamandre
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posted December 27, 2015 08:31 PM

Good. Refugees problem solved.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted December 27, 2015 08:42 PM

Salamandre said:
Good. Refugees problem solved.


+1


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The_Polyglot
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posted December 27, 2015 09:08 PM

Meh. It'll fail, and we'll all die in a couple - 3 at most - decades, in WW3 for the water reserves.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted December 28, 2015 01:15 AM

Lol poly, people can live a good 20-30 years from drinkin their own piss exclusively.

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Svartzorn
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posted December 28, 2015 01:28 AM

Sal's comment killed me
Everytime I see some future enthusiast mentioning the word "science" this comes to my mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXJAjLdaa4o
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blizzardboy
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posted December 28, 2015 03:05 AM
Edited by blizzardboy at 03:23, 28 Dec 2015.

A mission to Mars gains legitimacy in my mind purely for the sentimental coolness factor of it (science? ha!).


Honestly though, what do they intend to do once they have a manned mission to Mars? Is it just to gain early experience in shipping human beings? It's hard to justify the cost when robotics are more versatile than ever in performing tasks. There's nothing economical about having a colony there at this point. You don't even have the necessary plants & animals to create 1337 petroleum reserves (Yes, I just used the word "1337" in my paragraph). Mining asteroids or the moon is a lot more feasible because they have no atmosphere and weak gravity. You literally need a cheap mechanical catapult to make your cargo in flight for Earth.

At some point, raw resources won't actually be used to supply industry on Earth, but you can have the production facilities in space (namely, 3D printer orbitals), and then harness the raw resources around you to build what you want. Scientific/industrial/commercial space operations become semi self-sustaining instead of building things and launching them into space.
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blizzardboy
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posted December 28, 2015 03:26 AM





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fred79
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posted December 28, 2015 07:32 AM

hope they ship all the snows there(they won't, we'll all be dead by then). no matter what, i'm staying on this planet.

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Atronach
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posted January 10, 2016 05:24 AM

Just from the perspective of antifragility, space colonization is vital. Imagine a meteor strikes the Earth, or a global nuclear war starts and knocks us back 200+ years. If we have colonies, they can help us recover and put us back on track, and if that's impossible, we can at least escape. If we don't, then we're screwed. I do not exaggerate when I say that space travel research is one of the most important things the government could be spending money on.
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