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NimoStar
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posted October 07, 2016 09:18 AM

Imagine the inevitable day the Conflux goes down and they don't even release a patch to allow the game to work fully without it since Black Hole is dead...
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Antalyan
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posted October 07, 2016 04:27 PM

NimoStar said:
Imagine the inevitable day the Conflux goes down and they don't even release a patch to allow the game to work fully without it since Black Hole is dead...

That will be scary and I'm not also sure if it is not agaist the valid laws. After all, we paid for the game which informed us about Conflux being the part of the game, the part of the prize, without any time limitation (=should be available forever).

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posted October 07, 2016 05:04 PM
Edited by olorin at 17:05, 07 Oct 2016.

Antalyan said:
NimoStar said:
Imagine the inevitable day the Conflux goes down and they don't even release a patch to allow the game to work fully without it since Black Hole is dead...

That will be scary and I'm not also sure if it is not agaist the valid laws. After all, we paid for the game which informed us about Conflux being the part of the game, the part of the prize, without any time limitation (=should be available forever).



Yep, that's why I propose not to give up on improving it: http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1472207-Please-retake-Heroes-VI-development?s=de92d0c4dac46aaaebba9f5a1f7fcb2e

H6 2.1.1 still is a more polished product than this nonsense called Heroes VII. I just can't conceive delivering unfinished products for 40-50 bucks. I must get back to the old shabby argument: we're facing fraud, plain and simple: is there any lawyer around? Sue them (Ubisoft, Limbic) asap (I'm in!)
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posted October 07, 2016 05:35 PM

NimoStar said:
Imagine the inevitable day the Conflux goes down and they don't even release a patch to allow the game to work fully without it since Black Hole is dead...


Maybe someday when they turn off the online service they will make some code cleaning and improving on the game, remove the unnecessary stuffs from the game as widgets, conflux and so on and add a simple LAN or Connect to IP. Make all the dinasty stuffs to be accessed offline and stored in the same folder the offline save games are. No more conflux no more pain in the ass but what im thinking this is Ubisoft so this wont happen.

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Dies_Irae
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posted October 07, 2016 05:52 PM
Edited by Dies_Irae at 17:53, 07 Oct 2016.

If the Conflux ends and there is no alternative mode to play online with all the features that come with it, I might as well get myself a nice length of rope and find a sturdy looking tree...because then I have no more reason to exist .
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posted October 08, 2016 03:48 AM

olorin said:
we're facing fraud, plain and simple: is there any lawyer around? Sue them (Ubisoft, Limbic) asap (I'm in!)


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NimoStar
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posted October 18, 2016 12:23 AM
Edited by NimoStar at 00:35, 18 Oct 2016.

Quote:
Maybe someday when they turn off the online service they will make some code cleaning and improving on the game, remove the unnecessary stuffs from the game as widgets, conflux and so on and add a simple LAN or Connect to IP. Make all the dinasty stuffs to be accessed offline and stored in the same folder the offline save games are. No more conflux no more pain in the ass but what im thinking this is Ubisoft so this wont happen.


But the developing company is no more, so Ubi can just say "we don't know how to code it" (or "we can't code it"; companies say this all the time even when easily proven wrong) and screw us all.

There has also been other games which are down forever as they required an internet connection too and can't be played any more...

PS see here for examples, companies almost never rectify their always-online requirement
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posted October 19, 2016 06:30 AM

Dies_Irae said:
I might as well get myself a nice length of rope and find a sturdy looking tree...

You'll need a lot of rope to hang the whole ubi team.
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TD
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posted October 19, 2016 02:50 PM

Antalyan said:
NimoStar said:
Imagine the inevitable day the Conflux goes down and they don't even release a patch to allow the game to work fully without it since Black Hole is dead...

That will be scary and I'm not also sure if it is not agaist the valid laws. After all, we paid for the game which informed us about Conflux being the part of the game, the part of the prize, without any time limitation (=should be available forever).



Would be surprising if it was illegal. Companies are usually careful about wording in the EULA and often you just buy license to use the product(so you don't actually "buy/own" the game). There is no way they would make last patch to the game as it would require them to put whole new studio work on it thus costing money with no gain to them. Besides you can play h6 without conflux, can't you? I thought it only removes online play and dynasty features(which were essentially new version of cheats) but core play works unless I remember wrong...?

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NimoStar
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posted October 21, 2016 09:48 PM

Yes, offline play is possible, but there are many people with online saves.

Futhermore, there's no LAN for Heroes 6, meaning that after the Conflux is gone, not only Dynasty but the entire potential for multiplayer play is gone too. (except hotseat)

Maybe some programmer player could find a workaround for this or make a mod, but interest doesn't seem to be high.

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In an unrelated note, bite me, but I think H6 townscreens are much better than H7...
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Antalyan
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posted October 22, 2016 04:47 PM
Edited by Antalyan at 16:47, 22 Oct 2016.

TD said:
Antalyan said:
NimoStar said:
Imagine the inevitable day the Conflux goes down and they don't even release a patch to allow the game to work fully without it since Black Hole is dead...

That will be scary and I'm not also sure if it is not agaist the valid laws. After all, we paid for the game which informed us about Conflux being the part of the game, the part of the prize, without any time limitation (=should be available forever).



Would be surprising if it was illegal. Companies are usually careful about wording in the EULA and often you just buy license to use the product(so you don't actually "buy/own" the game). There is no way they would make last patch to the game as it would require them to put whole new studio work on it thus costing money with no gain to them. Besides you can play h6 without conflux, can't you? I thought it only removes online play and dynasty features(which were essentially new version of cheats) but core play works unless I remember wrong...?

It's exactly as Nimostar says, turning the Conflux off means you lose many game advantages which are parts of advertised game features.
Imagine you buy a car, you don't expect it to lose some of its parts, for example the roof. You can still drive a car without the roof .
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posted October 23, 2016 11:44 AM

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Today H6 is widely considered an equivalent of child molestation simulator created by Satan himself.

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Dies_Irae
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posted November 21, 2016 09:55 PM

Elvin said:
Dies_Irae said:
I might as well get myself a nice length of rope and find a sturdy looking tree...

You'll need a lot of rope to hang the whole ubi team.


I'm not that kind of guy that takes a whole bunch of others with him in his own suicide attempt , but even I don't know the limits of my rage when the Conflux ends. Their Dies Irae will be upon them, that fateful day.
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Elvin
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posted November 21, 2016 10:10 PM

That reminded me that wonderful H5 version. Man that was beautiful.
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