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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Which (non-combination) artifact is the best? (Improved poll options)
Thread: Which (non-combination) artifact is the best? (Improved poll options) This thread is 2 pages long: 1 2 · «PREV
phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted August 25, 2018 09:14 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 21:17, 25 Aug 2018.

Yeah this poll was kinda stupid, I don't know why I included Armageddons Blade, it is a campaign artifact that should be banned at all times!
I did however enable Armageddon's Blade in my game, but I removed the Armageddon resistance and it only gives Armageddon at "unskilled" level, makes it pretty reasonable.

My personal choice would be Shackles Of War however, I always ban Shackles Of War. (But I have'nt voted in the poll.)

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monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted August 25, 2018 09:26 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Yeah this poll was kinda stupid, I don't know why I included Armageddons Blade, it is a campaign artifact that should be banned at all times!
I did however enable Armageddon's Blade in my game, but I removed the Armageddon resistance and it only gives Armageddon at "unskilled" level, makes it pretty reasonable.

My personal choice would be Shackles Of War however, I always ban Shackles Of War. (But I have'nt voted in the poll.)


Stupid?? Nah, polls are never stupid. The more, the better xD

I don't think, however, that Equestrian's Gloves, Golden Bow, and Spirit of Oppression should have been included in the poll. Neither of these items is a game breaker / winner. Golden bow might be a game winner if the game lasts 2-3-4 weeks and you play dungeron / tower and find this artifact fast, but that's rare and if you're gonna put it on this list you might as well put orb of inhibition / vulnerability, too, which are much more impactful than golden bow

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted August 25, 2018 09:33 PM

The truth is there are many good artifacts, but it depends on situation, but I think the map speed items (Boots Of Speed and Equestrian's Gloves) and Angel Wings are game changers, but also Tome Of Air, Tome Of Earth and Spellbinder's Hat can be great for granting you those important adventure spells. And then Of course Shackles Of War.
Golden Bow can be great if you have a huge Tower army and maybe ballista/cannon and Artillery.
Spirit Of Oppression is for ensuring enemy don't get morale. (Of course in HotA there are items that gives enemy negative morale and they might be even better.)

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monere
monere


Famous Hero
posted August 25, 2018 09:49 PM

phoenix4ever said:
The truth is there are many good artifacts, but it depends on situation, but I think the map speed items (Boots Of Speed and Equestrian's Gloves) and Angel Wings are game changers, but also Tome Of Air, Tome Of Earth and Spellbinder's Hat can be great for granting you those important adventure spells. And then Of course Shackles Of War.
Golden Bow can be great if you have a huge Tower army and maybe ballista/cannon and Artillery.
Spirit Of Oppression is for ensuring enemy don't get morale. (Of course in HotA there are items that gives enemy negative morale and they might be even better.)


I still think that EG are not game changer. What is 25% more movement speed? 3-4 more tiles? Negligible. It's true that there's not many items for that slot that are better than EG, but I still don't see them as game changer. Boots of speed are good indeed, because an extra 8-9 tiles can be felt on the adventure map, but EG...

And yeah, many items are situational indeed, except for Tome of Air and Earth, those tomes are ALWAYS good, no matter the situation you're in xD

Oh, spirit of oppression... never lost games to high morale, so I don't understand why you've put it on this list. Have you ever lost games specifically because of high morale?? High morale is annoying and that's about it. If you have a better stats / better army / better spells hero (any 2 combinations of these 3) you will win most of the time anyway, regardless of how much morale your opponent gets. And if you have worse stats / army / spells hero you will lose most of the time anyway, so again high morale doesn't make a difference. So, not sure that SoO should be included in this poll.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted August 25, 2018 10:09 PM

Well actually this poll was made because of feedback I got from the first poll and there people mentioned Spirit Of Oppression and Golden Bow and even Sphere Of Permanence and other stuff.
Personally I would never consider any of them THE best artifact, but as you probably know there can be a max of 10 poll options, so I could'nt include them all, I tried my best to include all the best though.
Maybe Spirit Of Oppression should'nt have been on the list, but I still believe Spirit Of Oppression is a good artifact, especially for early game, but I would never consider it the best.
The items granting speed in battle are also great, especially Cape Of Velocity.
But seems like people think Shackles Of War and Angel Wings are the strongest artifacts and I can agree with that.

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monere
monere


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posted August 25, 2018 10:22 PM
Edited by monere at 22:23, 25 Aug 2018.

phoenix4ever said:
Well actually this poll was made because of feedback I got from the first poll and there people mentioned Spirit Of Oppression and Golden Bow and even Sphere Of Permanence and other stuff.
Personally I would never consider any of them THE best artifact, but as you probably know there can be a max of 10 poll options, so I could'nt include them all, I tried my best to include all the best though.
Maybe Spirit Of Oppression should'nt have been on the list, but I still believe Spirit Of Oppression is a good artifact, especially for early game, but I would never consider it the best.
The items granting speed in battle are also great, especially Cape Of Velocity.
But seems like people think Shackles Of War and Angel Wings are the strongest artifacts and I can agree with that.


I, too, don't think that a best artifact exists. Many of them are game breakers indeed, with Angel Wings and Shackles of War being 2 of those, probably along with Tome of Air and Spellbinder's Hat. If you have expert air magic (which is pretty easy to get by most heroes) and 12-15 knowledge, and at least advanced intelligence... well, you won't be caught by any hero unless they have at least the same things as you so they can chase you. So, yeah, all these items can be considered game breakers, but not golden bow or spirit of oppression, even though I do like all these artifacts and I use them, too.

And as I've said earlier, orb of inhibition seems much more impactful to me than spirit of oppression, so if anything that should have been included in the poll. But... what's done is good done, so there isn't much to be done about changing the options at the moment. Besides, a better way to assess the gayness of the items is to poll at least 50-60% of the people who play Heroes, but I doubt that that's possible, so it's always gonna be bias with regards to one thing, or another. There's a popular saying here in Romania that goes like this: as many heads, as many opinions...

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