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FirePaladin
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posted May 11, 2020 12:40 AM
Edited by FirePaladin at 14:23, 11 May 2020.

Ubisoft selling the HoMM rights

Self-explanatory. Googled it, and didn't really find any proof of it. Did they really put the rights on sale or what? And if so, is there any source for that you can link?

Edit: https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthread.php/1520459-Future-plans-heroes-VIII/page2

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You guys know that the HOMM franchise is not MADE by Ubisoft anymore since HOMM VI right? It's developped by Limbic Entertainement wich, let's face it, is a ****ty studio who clearly can'T do a good HOMM game. Or a good game for that mater. If Ubisoft ever decides to continue the series they HAVE TO take the project in-house. No more small studio BS do it big use your best team and go all in! please make it happen we need more Heroes games (good ones this time)


So much wrong in this post...

1) Ubisoft doesn't MAKE games, they PUBLISH them.
2) Limbic was only the developer for H7, H6 was developed by Blackhole. If you decide to deem a company "not be able to do a good HOMM game", then why not deem both?
3) The size of the studio doesn't matter. Nival wasn't even 1/3 the size of 3D0 at the time of H5 release, yet today it is still considered to be the second most enjoyable Heroes installement (that's right, even H1 and 2 and behind H5 in the ratings).

AFAIK, Ubi put the franchise to an auction bid in 2017. They are currently looking to sell everything: the rights, the brand, all. Nival doesn't want to have anything to do with Heroes either, 15 years ago they were a small office, not they're huge and well known outside Russia. Methinks the only way here to get a legit 8th installment (not a reboot, not a fangame, but a real worthy successor to H5 and somewhat H6) would be to deal with a small studio, or maybe even several small studios, but having already had decent experience with strategy games. It doesn't have to be mobile, it doesn't have to be mmo or dlc or modded all over idk. Those guys just need to have at least played the last 3 installments and willing to not "change everything because", and yeah, that should do it.

Also, keep it 6 factions please. Even 5. You'll know"

This was on Ubi forum, not Celestialheavens, my mistake.

In any case, what do you guys think about this? I don't agree with 5 factions. That's the main reason I don't like H6.
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FirePaladin
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posted May 11, 2020 10:32 AM

...Guys?
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posted May 11, 2020 10:43 AM

First I hear of that, they'd recently released a might&magic quick chess spin off or some such. What makes you think they would sell the rights?
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posted May 11, 2020 10:48 AM
Edited by FirePaladin at 10:49, 11 May 2020.

Elvin said:
First I hear of that, they'd recently released a might&magic quick chess spin off or some such. What makes you think they would sell the rights?


The fact that many people on the internet said that? I never said I think that they are selling the rights. Even so, that chess-whatever game shouldn't be worth keeping the franchise rights.
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posted May 11, 2020 11:02 AM

Sure but where did you see that?

And my point was, if they were planning to sell they probably would not keep producing small titles like that. Not that this proves anything of course.
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posted May 11, 2020 11:04 AM
Edited by FirePaladin at 11:07, 11 May 2020.

Elvin said:
Sure but where did you see that?

And my point was, if they were planning to sell they probably would not keep producing small titles like that. Not that this proves anything of course.


On reddit especially, also just on random places (forums, etc.). That's why I'm asking you guys if it's true.

They all sounded like Ubi itself confirmed that a while ago, and they're waiting for 2 years for someone to buy them.

Also on celestialheavens there was such a topic where the guys were like "Ubi put the rights on sale, but nobody wants them!"
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posted May 11, 2020 11:32 AM

Did you check it wasn't april fools! 😉
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posted May 11, 2020 11:34 AM

avatar said:
Did you check it wasn't april fools! 😉


Yeah, but I doubt it was. Those people were debating it as if true.
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posted May 11, 2020 11:38 AM

Link or didnt happen

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posted May 11, 2020 11:42 AM

Revolut1oN said:
Link or didnt happen


That's what I'm searching for (and the scope of the thread).

I'm 100% sure there were some guys debating it on celestialheavens, about Nival not wanting the franchise, and whether THQ Nordic or CD Project Red should buy the franchise.
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posted May 11, 2020 12:41 PM

People have asking for them to sell the rights in various forums since a decade or so, that can't be an indicator of any relevance.
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posted May 11, 2020 01:18 PM

I know what you're taking about. It wasn't about M&M right selling it was about process between Ubisoft and Vivendi
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/3/20/17144094/ubisoft-vivendi-sells-stake-tencent-deal
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posted May 11, 2020 01:35 PM

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I know what you're taking about. It wasn't about M&M right selling it was about process between Ubisoft and Vivendi
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/3/20/17144094/ubisoft-vivendi-sells-stake-tencent-deal


And... what does this have to do with people talking about who should buy MM? If I remember correctly, nobody mentioned Vivendi.
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posted May 11, 2020 02:04 PM

I mean you should provide a link for this discussions about HoMM rights that you've seen. I've never seen anybody spreading this kind of rumors so I assume this issue might not even exist and is completely made up.

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posted May 11, 2020 02:16 PM
Edited by FirePaladin at 14:21, 11 May 2020.

Revolut1oN said:
I mean you should provide a link for this discussions about HoMM rights that you've seen. I've never seen anybody spreading this kind of rumors so I assume this issue might not even exist and is completely made up.


I totally know that. What concerns me is also that I don't seem to find it anywhere right now.

Some links/discussions which are similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/HoMM/comments/7xz9k2/is_series_dead_or_there_are_news_on_homm8/

IT'S HERE! FOUND IT! https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthread.php/1520459-Future-plans-heroes-VIII/page2


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You guys know that the HOMM franchise is not MADE by Ubisoft anymore since HOMM VI right? It's developped by Limbic Entertainement wich, let's face it, is a ****ty studio who clearly can'T do a good HOMM game. Or a good game for that mater. If Ubisoft ever decides to continue the series they HAVE TO take the project in-house. No more small studio BS do it big use your best team and go all in! please make it happen we need more Heroes games (good ones this time)


So much wrong in this post...

1) Ubisoft doesn't MAKE games, they PUBLISH them.
2) Limbic was only the developer for H7, H6 was developed by Blackhole. If you decide to deem a company "not be able to do a good HOMM game", then why not deem both?
3) The size of the studio doesn't matter. Nival wasn't even 1/3 the size of 3D0 at the time of H5 release, yet today it is still considered to be the second most enjoyable Heroes installement (that's right, even H1 and 2 and behind H5 in the ratings).

AFAIK, Ubi put the franchise to an auction bid in 2017. They are currently looking to sell everything: the rights, the brand, all. Nival doesn't want to have anything to do with Heroes either, 15 years ago they were a small office, not they're huge and well known outside Russia. Methinks the only way here to get a legit 8th installment (not a reboot, not a fangame, but a real worthy successor to H5 and somewhat H6) would be to deal with a small studio, or maybe even several small studios, but having already had decent experience with strategy games. It doesn't have to be mobile, it doesn't have to be mmo or dlc or modded all over idk. Those guys just need to have at least played the last 3 installments and willing to not "change everything because", and yeah, that should do it.

Also, keep it 6 factions please. Even 5. You'll know"

This was on Ubi forum, not Celestialheavens, my mistake.

In any case, what do you guys think about this?
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Elvin
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posted May 11, 2020 02:53 PM
Edited by Elvin at 14:58, 11 May 2020.

Just some uninformed idiot who can't tell the difference between publisher and developer, am I missing something?

Even if the series rights were put on a bid - which honestly makes little sense for that time - ubi went ahead and made H6 and H7 since. So there is zero relevance with.. anything really.
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posted May 11, 2020 02:57 PM

@Firepaladin

Hmm, I'm still not very convinced. That forum post is made an year ago by one person with one post on that forum. Even he is not certain if ubi actually is trying to sell the franchise. And according to him, the rights were put on sale three years ago.

I wouldn't be surprsised if that was the case, but I would imagine them really actively trying to sell the franchise, but since they have even currently made games under M&M franchise, I would image either:

a) no one was intrested to buy it back then
b) it never actually happened
c) they're not actively trying to sell it right now

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posted May 11, 2020 03:33 PM

Why you gotta get my hopes up like that?
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FirePaladin
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posted May 11, 2020 04:56 PM

Probably it's like that. But I wonder if Ubi would sell it if they've got a pretty good offer.
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posted May 11, 2020 06:28 PM

I don't believe ubi ever placed a bid, if anything I'm pretty sure they aimed for an H6 soon after H5 was finished. And H6 didn't feel like a product ubi had no confidence in, despite how things turned out. H7 however did and it showed.
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