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thGryphn
thGryphn


Promising
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posted December 03, 2016 09:35 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 23:55, 03 Dec 2016.

magnomagus said:
Alright to keep it simple I'm willing to accept the button goes into creature hire, creature info & the caravan screens, since it will look as if it is one button in the same screen.

This creates a weird situation when the creature info is approached differently, but I will have to look the other way and satisfy the availability in combat.

But I definately don't want it in the town build and also not in the hero army stats tab (since it is already available there through creature info). As you said not kingdom overview for same reason.



Agreed on all points, except for the Town Build, but I'll let it go


magnomagus said:

For creature upgrade I'm thinking another approach and really implement it as 8 buttons there so there is at least one place it works really fast (but you can shelf this for later and leave it empty, i don't like another drawer there in any case).



I agree on this one too, even though visually it will look different. Implementing the buttons here will not be an issue. I'm thinking at the bottom of the window, at the same row as the "OK" button, what do you think?

As a side note, in the drawer I intend to keep all the 9 buttons including the neutrals, but drop the neutrals here at creature upgrade window.


magnomagus said:

Another thing if there are only 7 meaningful columns in one screen i actually think it looks better like this (with maybe exit button on one side and screen switches on the other?):

-[][][]
[][][][]

(interpret the '-' as empty space and assume object is symmetrical)



I'll show you what I have here shortly, and it's not this layout. It's basically like this:

--------
|1|3|5|--
|-|-|- |7|
|2|4|6|--
--------

Dashes are not empty spaces but are boundaries of the slots

Above the 7th slot, there are two buttons: exit and switch (between stats and abilities).

Below the 7th slot, there are the buttons for other factions, meaning 8 buttons including the neutrals.

I think this layout is the best, as I had explained it way earlier: It shows an logical and ordered progression of tiers left to right, culminating at the champion creature.

Edit: Here's what I have now... The stats screen (which is default) and the abilities screen, from the game. Only the faction buttons are not yet implemented but are copy-pasted.

What you see is the default, comparing the two upgrades. The small buttons shuffle the within-tier comparisons: you can compare the upgrades to the base creature, come back, and so on.

There are tooltips for each and every button or icon. Ability names show ability description in the tooltip. "Caster" also lists the spellbook: name and mastery of creature's spells.







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magnomagus
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posted December 04, 2016 02:02 PM

ok, it's fine, but I think there should also be a button for the creatures already shown (the way it works for the skillwheel) so that the buttons are always in same position. That way it works faster because players will memorize unconsciously the positions of buttons.
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thGryphn
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posted December 04, 2016 02:59 PM

magnomagus said:
ok, it's fine, but I think there should also be a button for the creatures already shown (the way it works for the skillwheel) so that the buttons are always in same position. That way it works faster because players will memorize unconsciously the positions of buttons.


OK, sure, I can arrange them in a 3x3 matrix.

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posted December 08, 2016 10:22 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 20:57, 12 Dec 2016.

Alright, here's an almost complete version:

retracted

You can access the Creaturepedia from the Creature Hire screen and Creature Info screen (the double-click-on-creature screen). In case anyone doesn't know, double-right-click also works, which is very helpful in combat

What's missing is access from the Creature Upgrade screen.

I tested it thoroughly but let me know if you observe any bugs/glitches. In any case, any feedback is appreciated


Updated: It's fully complete now!

MMH5.5 Creaturepedia v6

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posted December 09, 2016 01:02 PM

Thank you very much.

My first impression is this is excellent!!
no complaints so far.
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Mario
Mario


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posted December 09, 2016 04:54 PM
Edited by Mario at 16:57, 09 Dec 2016.

You have done a great job.

My observation
The Polish version noticed a few problems:
1. A three names of units is too long and does not over run in one line (Inferno Tier 4 upgrade and upgrade2 - the Polish name is "Wladczyni Sukkubusow" and "Uwodzicielski Sukkubus";  Fortress Tier 3 upgrade 2 - Polish name of the unit: "Niedzwiedzi Wojownik"
2 The names of some units abilities are too long which makes part of the name is not visible. For example, the Academy Tier 2 upgrade: "Odpornosc na magie oparta na zywiole ziemi"

Is it possible to make a links to the alternative, shorter names of some abilities?
Is it possible to provide a little more space for the names of creatures?

Some screens:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m60ljn08lq8ferj/creaturepedia.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3bq90zq1u5jpz8/creaturepedia1.png?dl=0

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thGryphn
thGryphn


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Famous Hero
posted December 09, 2016 07:46 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 22:18, 09 Dec 2016.

Mario said:
You have done a great job.

My observation
The Polish version noticed a few problems:
1. A three names of units is too long and does not over run in one line (Inferno Tier 4 upgrade and upgrade2 - the Polish name is "Wladczyni Sukkubusow" and "Uwodzicielski Sukkubus";  Fortress Tier 3 upgrade 2 - Polish name of the unit: "Niedzwiedzi Wojownik"
2 The names of some units abilities are too long which makes part of the name is not visible. For example, the Academy Tier 2 upgrade: "Odpornosc na magie oparta na zywiole ziemi"

Is it possible to make a links to the alternative, shorter names of some abilities?
Is it possible to provide a little more space for the names of creatures?

Some screens:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m60ljn08lq8ferj/creaturepedia.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j3bq90zq1u5jpz8/creaturepedia1.png?dl=0


I'm sorry but it's basically impossible to make the text in multiple languages fit in a fixed space.

For the creature names and ability names, I'm already using all the space available. Try the following (but along with the original mod pak) for text sizes of 14:

Size 14

If the creature names do not fit with this, instead of doing 13, I would recommend changing the text style by removing the outline. 13 would be too small.

The problem with the those ability names is that they are really very long. I'm sure they won't fit with 14 text size, and again 13 will be way too small. Why don't you shorten them? "Odpornosc na ziemi" instead of "Odpornosc na magie oparta na zywiole ziemi"?

If you don't want to shorten them, here try the size 13 text:
Size 13

Send me a screenshot with size 13 and let's see how it looks and maybe there's another way

Edit: By the way, are you sure the translation is correct? That creature has immunity to air, fire and water, but not earth (ziemi)...

Edit2: I can confirm that those Polish creature names fit fine and look good at size 14. However, if you do not intend to shorten those ability names, you would have to use size 12, which to me is too small. I can however make only those very long ability names smaller, leaving the rest at the original text size. Let me know how you want it

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Mario
Mario


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posted December 10, 2016 01:32 AM
Edited by Mario at 21:43, 10 Dec 2016.

Thank you very much.
I'll try it tomorrow afternoon because I'm at work until 6.00
I will probably decide to shorten names of some abilities, if it doesn't require the change in a lot of files

thGryphn said:

Edit: By the way, are you sure the translation is correct? That creature has immunity to air, fire and water, but not earth (ziemi)...


I think that the translation is good, probably I made a mistake. I will check it.

Edit:
The names of the creatures with size 14 look fine.
As for the ability of creatures I shortened name a few of them, which required the intervention in 10 files in the Polish translation.
Now everything looks great.
Now I will translate Your mod on Polish.
Thanks for help

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thGryphn
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posted December 11, 2016 12:13 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 12:58, 11 Dec 2016.

Mario said:
Thank you very much.
I'll try it tomorrow afternoon because I'm at work until 6.00
I will probably decide to shorten names of some abilities, if it doesn't require the change in a lot of files

thGryphn said:

Edit: By the way, are you sure the translation is correct? That creature has immunity to air, fire and water, but not earth (ziemi)...


I think that the translation is good, probably I made a mistake. I will check it.

Edit:
The names of the creatures with size 14 look fine.
As for the ability of creatures I shortened name a few of them, which required the intervention in 10 files in the Polish translation.
Now everything looks great.
Now I will translate Your mod on Polish.
Thanks for help


What are the shortened ability names now? I'll see if they fit with larger font size.

Edit: Better yet, can you send me the whole thing? All the ability names in Polish...

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Mario
Mario


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posted December 11, 2016 12:57 PM
Edited by Mario at 13:09, 11 Dec 2016.

thGryphn said:

What are the shortened ability names now? I'll see if they fit with larger font size.



Few screens:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bs3o97xgs8h6jq/AbilitiesFit1.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tlfffk8dxi8y0ne/AbilitiesName%20Fit3.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6gxlzu0u8aehqak/AbilitiesName%20FIt2.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xlqd8jck5hi1mep/AbilitiesNameFit4.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/odq6ofdwmum2fyo/AbilitiesNameFit5.png?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7961nko0mp55qnm/SukkubusNmae%20Fit.png?dl=0

Shortened Abilities (English):
Range Penalty
Immunity to Fire
Immunity to Earth
Immunity to Water
Immunity to Air

Edit1:
Look at this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/tlfffk8dxi8y0ne/AbilitiesName%20Fit3.png?dl=0
Dragon on the right - his two abilities there are to close oneself:
"Odpornosc na magie Ognia" and "Oddech Plynnego Ognia"

Edit2:
Changed names (Shortened abilities in Polish):
Odpornosc na magie Ognia
Odpornosc na magie Wody
Odpornosc na magie Powietrza
Odpornosc na magie Ziemi
Nieskuteczny na dystans

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Famous Hero
posted December 11, 2016 01:28 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 13:30, 11 Dec 2016.

It seems I'm going to have to make a different version for Polish, so can you send me the new Polish translations after your recent changes? I need the Polish translation of everything...


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Mario
Mario


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posted December 11, 2016 02:13 PM

thGryphn said:
It seems I'm going to have to make a different version for Polish, so can you send me the new Polish translations after your recent changes? I need the Polish translation of everything...




Ok,I will send you everything when I done Polish translation.

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Mario
Mario


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posted December 11, 2016 07:19 PM

Mario said:
thGryphn said:
It seems I'm going to have to make a different version for Polish, so can you send me the new Polish translations after your recent changes? I need the Polish translation of everything...




Ok,I will send you everything when I done Polish translation.



I finally done.
Links:
1. Original Polish translation
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6dadw4ba24pv8zq/a2p1-texts.pak?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i9k55l62s880s4i/texts.pak?dl=0
2. Heroes 5.5 Polish translation
https://www.dropbox.com/s/quq9szlxaj64ut3/MMH55-Texts-PL.pak?dl=0
3.Shortened Abilities
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rccmkoxlv7m4vqf/texts_correctPL.pak?dl=0
4. Polish Tranlation Creaturepedia mod
https://www.dropbox.com/s/csjsbakaubh4pfu/creaturepediaPL.pak?dl=0
5. Text size 14 (the newest date)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxhceqg82fjcc0o/namesize14.pak?dl=0

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thGryphn


Promising
Famous Hero
posted December 12, 2016 08:57 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 21:58, 13 Dec 2016.

UPDATED TO V8

Alright, here is the final version after some improvements in speed and visuals:

MMH5.5 Creaturepedia v8

And below is the link to the finalized version for Polish. It includes all the updated texts in Polish, so you need only this file. Everything should look as intended but let me know if there are any glitches

MMH5.5 Creaturepedia v8 (Polish)


Edit: First post is updated with screenshots.

Edit: Now available for the Vanilla TotE experience! I *strongly* recommend upgrading to MMH5.5 but I respect your choices, and hence I'm providing this mod for Heroes 5 TotE (3.1) as well:

Heroes 5 TotE (3.1) Creaturepedia v8

Note: Unlike the version for MMH5.5, the version for Heroes 5 TotE (3.1) includes access to the Creaturepedia from the Town Build screen as well

UPDATED TO V8

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Mario
Mario


Known Hero
posted December 12, 2016 10:30 PM
Edited by Mario at 23:03, 12 Dec 2016.

thGryphn said:

And below is the link to the finalized version for Polish. It includes all the updated texts in Polish, so you need only this file. Everything should look as intended but let me know if there are any glitches

MMH5.5 Creaturepedia v6 (Polish)



Thank you very much.
Everything looks and works very well.
I am really grateful to you.


Only two things I would change (of course it's only a proposal):
1. The cost of the hire creature at 7. level  - for example, instead of 3600 + 2 crystals I propose 3600 + small crystal icon. That would be universal for all languages
2. Creature spells - this is not a problem, but some spells does not fit on one line. Can you a little decrease font size for polish version?
Screen: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x7km21lusbdo45k/spells.png?dl=0

Once again, thank you very much

Edit:
I placed information about the modifications on the Polish forum
http://www.forum.acidcave.net/topic.php?TID=355&pid=133411&page=19#133411



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thGryphn
thGryphn


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Famous Hero
posted December 13, 2016 12:06 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 12:09, 13 Dec 2016.

Mario said:
thGryphn said:

And below is the link to the finalized version for Polish. It includes all the updated texts in Polish, so you need only this file. Everything should look as intended but let me know if there are any glitches

MMH5.5 Creaturepedia v6 (Polish)



Thank you very much.
Everything looks and works very well.
I am really grateful to you.


Only two things I would change (of course it's only a proposal):
1. The cost of the hire creature at 7. level  - for example, instead of 3600 + 2 crystals I propose 3600 + small crystal icon. That would be universal for all languages
2. Creature spells - this is not a problem, but some spells does not fit on one line. Can you a little decrease font size for polish version?
Screen: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x7km21lusbdo45k/spells.png?dl=0

Once again, thank you very much

Edit:
I placed information about the modifications on the Polish forum
http://www.forum.acidcave.net/topic.php?TID=355&pid=133411&page=19#133411





Great, I'm happy it works nicely!

The glitch about the spells is easy to fix. To help me out, can you find out for me the longest line of text shown in those tooltips? As in "SpellName (Mastery)"...

About the cost statistic, it seems there is a misunderstanding. Those are not images, and you can translate the cost text. Actually, if you tell me which words to use for the resources (including the plurals) I can do that here and update the Polish package for this mod.

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Mario
Mario


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posted December 13, 2016 01:01 PM

thGryphn said:


Great, I'm happy it works nicely!

The glitch about the spells is easy to fix. To help me out, can you find out for me the longest line of text shown in those tooltips? As in "SpellName (Mastery)"...

About the cost statistic, it seems there is a misunderstanding. Those are not images, and you can translate the cost text. Actually, if you tell me which words to use for the resources (including the plurals) I can do that here and update the Polish package for this mod.



Oops. It looks like I missed something.
I am now at work. I'll try to send you the missing translation and the text of the longest spells to fit in the evening.

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Famous Hero
posted December 13, 2016 05:29 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 19:07, 13 Dec 2016.

Mario said:
thGryphn said:


Great, I'm happy it works nicely!

The glitch about the spells is easy to fix. To help me out, can you find out for me the longest line of text shown in those tooltips? As in "SpellName (Mastery)"...

About the cost statistic, it seems there is a misunderstanding. Those are not images, and you can translate the cost text. Actually, if you tell me which words to use for the resources (including the plurals) I can do that here and update the Polish package for this mod.



Oops. It looks like I missed something.
I am now at work. I'll try to send you the missing translation and the text of the longest spells to fit in the evening.


Translating the cost text might be time consuming because you would have to translate a text file for all of the Tier 7 creatures and upgrades. You can save time by automating with a good text editor. The file you need to translate is named s11.txt (for each Tier 7 creature)...

Or, just send me the Polish translation of resources along with plurals. I'd use Google translate but I couldn't trust it


Edit: I found the Polish translations of resources, so the cost text is done. Now I just need the longest spell text in the caster tooltips

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Mario


Known Hero
posted December 13, 2016 08:10 PM
Edited by Mario at 20:53, 13 Dec 2016.

thGryphn said:
Mario said:
thGryphn said:


Great, I'm happy it works nicely!

The glitch about the spells is easy to fix. To help me out, can you find out for me the longest line of text shown in those tooltips? As in "SpellName (Mastery)"...

About the cost statistic, it seems there is a misunderstanding. Those are not images, and you can translate the cost text. Actually, if you tell me which words to use for the resources (including the plurals) I can do that here and update the Polish package for this mod.



Oops. It looks like I missed something.
I am now at work. I'll try to send you the missing translation and the text of the longest spells to fit in the evening.


Translating the cost text might be time consuming because you would have to translate a text file for all of the Tier 7 creatures and upgrades. You can save time by automating with a good text editor. The file you need to translate is named s11.txt (for each Tier 7 creature)...

Or, just send me the Polish translation of resources along with plurals. I'd use Google translate but I couldn't trust it


Edit: I found the Polish translations of resources, so the cost text is done. Now I just need the longest spell text in the caster tooltips



Ok, translation is not a problem. A few minutes and ready
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jzj8kr04k1t5oum/AAAri4Wg8OFcv3xWkoSv4ac9a?dl=0
Longest spell text (without polish signs): Poswiecenie Goblina (Zaawansowany)

Edit: This link maybe it's better (without word "uncja" {english - ounce} before some resources).
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8hq2rercnkj60yv/AAC6b_-f0lcmOC1YX1PpKr_ba?dl=0

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thGryphn


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Famous Hero
posted December 13, 2016 09:19 PM
Edited by thGryphn at 21:58, 13 Dec 2016.

UPDATED TO V8
This is the FINAL version!
Now also available for the Vanilla Heroes 5 TotE (3.1) game. I don't know why you're still not upgrading to MMH5.5, but below is the link...


Important Note: Aside from providing a full-featured creaturepedia, this mod also improves the visual quality of Town Build, Hire Creatures, Creature Info and Magic Guild screens.

MMH5.5 Creaturepedia v8

MMH5.5 Creaturepedia v8 (Polish)



Heroes 5 TotE (3.1) Creaturepedia v8

Note: Unlike the version for MMH5.5, the version for Heroes 5 TotE (3.1) includes access to the Creaturepedia from the Town Build screen as well

UPDATED TO V8
This is the FINAL version!



Edit: If anybody is interested in translating this mod to their language, they're free to do so. Just make sure to give me credit and let me know if you observe any visual glitches so we can work it out just as we did for Polish...

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