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Heroes Community > Heroes 3.5 - WoG and Beyond > Thread: Death Valley 2.0
Thread: Death Valley 2.0 This thread is 3 pages long: 1 2 3 · «PREV
Stevie
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posted January 24, 2017 01:49 PM

Well, it seems quite well adapted so I think it would be a good replacement for Necropolis. To me it doesn't matter that much, I like the Warcraft universe, but I just wonder how the NWC purists would react. We've had a lot of bashing of Warhammer / Warcraft styles with Ashan over the years.
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PandaTar
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posted January 24, 2017 02:26 PM
Edited by PandaTar at 14:27, 24 Jan 2017.

vitirr said:

I like your town and I think it really fits H3 unlike others said.

Town concept is too redundant with Necropolis, but well, I guess it could be funny to play with different versions of one same faction.



I also feel like it fits. I think you should consider the feeling ignited by your work, not actually a top-notch architecture analysis comparing this and that. Besides, that's about feeling when you play the game, right, if you feel like playing the same game and the townscreen brings me the idea of the same game.

If it doesn't work for everybody, welcome to Earth, where people don't agree with each other all the time.

Regarding creatures, I'm not fond of the 7th tier always being cliche of dragons or powerful beasts. I would dare having a strong Lich spellcaster on that tier. Also because, from the line-up you assembled, I don't know if there is any ranged unit.

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Warmonger
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posted January 24, 2017 03:39 PM

I'm usually against replacing old towns with the new ones, but this one is a good candicate. Just replace Necropolis to get a new one.
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Salamandre
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posted January 24, 2017 04:06 PM

Draeganfire said:
These I got from the following files (pretty much everything I have shows so far (except for the Grail Structure, which I downloaded from online):


I downloaded this pack as I was surprised there are additional creatures from chineses and I didn't know about, so I browsed it and indeed, there are not. You use gifs for creatures but I can't find any def or frames for animations (have you?), so unless you are a professional 3D designer, you can forget about using those creatures.

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Draeganfire
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posted January 24, 2017 04:36 PM
Edited by Draeganfire at 16:51, 24 Jan 2017.

First, Thank everyone for the continuing interest and feedback!!! I totally appreciate all of it, both the positive and the critical:

@vitirr:

"What I don't like is the town without fort on the adventure map. It looks too different, and those green lights make it too different to the actual inner view. The one with the fort looks better."

Totally agree with that!! it was definitely out of line with any existing town or mod town.
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@Stevie:

"I can see a lot of Warcraft in this, the crevice of the frost giants in dragonblight, the broken path of the makers, the building style of the titans from storm peaks and ulduar, the atmosphere of the northrend continent in general, and now you even want to import creatures? I personally don't think it fits, but I don't want to bring you down either so good luck with the project."

I am an absolute World of Warcraft addict, so I am not surprised by this observation, heck it's the same observation I made myself, and probably the reason I started with this town, in my original concept I had even made my castle floating like a homemade version of Dalaran.....
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@salamander:

"It doesn't have to fit, there is always possibility that some mapmaker uses it for RPG map; moreover there are now several graphic patches which basically replaced old editor with entire new one ((example), so a different town style definitely has its chances. "

Funny you should say that..... My ultimate goal in creation in this game is to make a single map scenario which uses a 1024 x 1024 2 Tier map and includes 4 different town factions per player.... I have even toyed with the idea of a campaign expansion with a story based on this idea, something that includes many of the mods, and really brings them all into the story...While my art / programming skills are newborn, my writing and creativity are my strengths.

I had made a 144 x 144 map previously that included 16 town types by placing the 8 original towns on the map and then having the player choices being the mod towns, but it was too glitchy so far to share. I will mainly have to wait for map editor to catch up to my imagination (and for many more mod towns to be born) to see my mega game realized, but I am a obsessive fan so I can wait.
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@Panda Tar

"If it doesn't work for everybody, welcome to Earth, where people don't agree with each other all the time."

LMAO....this had me rolling on the floor for several minutes, I think no truer words have ever been written!!!!

"Regarding creatures, I'm not fond of the 7th tier always being cliche of dragons or powerful beasts. I would dare having a strong Lich spellcaster on that tier. Also because, from the line-up you assembled, I don't know if there is any ranged unit."

I had originally thought of going with a dragon type based on works from Silaneo, but an earlier post by Michal had helped to steer me in the current direction....

As to ranged units, I don't have an archer type so much, but was considering ranged special abilities for the banshee tier and the reaper tier, as well as a harpy-like attack and return for the ghost tier. Also I would love to figure out a way to make the hook attack used by the abomination, much like in WoW where he hooks the target from a distance and drags it adjacent to him.
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@Warmonger

"I'm usually against replacing old towns with the new ones, but this one is a good candicate. Just replace Necropolis to get a new one."

Wow, coming from one of the people I consider a VCMI "boss" that seems high praise to me....I'll consider the thought depending on how frustrated I get with trying to place new creatures :-P
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@Salamandre

I have found some files that I think are part of what I need, but as I am SOOOOO not a professional 3D designer, I am still hunting and learning. The amount of knowledge I have gained just in the few days since I decided to take this project on has been amazing to me, a lot of which I owe to this community, thanks to all! And since I am stubborn, If I decide I want the unit, I will probably find a way to use it, even if I have to recruit help.

00_resources.zip/resources/res/creature/animation/undead....

this is where I found what I have found so far, my assumption was that the needed things are in the files somewhere, it's just kinda hodge-podge. Honestly I figured it was because I just didn't know what I was looking for.

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Macron1
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posted January 24, 2017 04:44 PM

Salamandre said:
I can't find any def or frames for animations (have you?), so unless you are a professional 3D designer, you can forget about using those creatures.


There are 32-bit PNG spritesheets with creatures. They can be made to DEFs, but half-transparent pixels mean this requires almost pixel-by-pixel hand work to get BMPs with creatures animations.
Death Knight and Lich from these resources were already made by chineese modders.

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Draeganfire
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posted January 24, 2017 04:56 PM
Edited by Draeganfire at 18:21, 24 Jan 2017.

Macron1 said:
Salamandre said:
I can't find any def or frames for animations (have you?), so unless you are a professional 3D designer, you can forget about using those creatures.


There are 32-bit PNG spritesheets with creatures. They can be made to DEFs, but half-transparent pixels mean this requires almost pixel-by-pixel hand work to get BMPs with creatures animations.
Death Knight and Lich from these resources were already made by chineese modders.


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Yeah, I was noticing that with the animation parts of the town screen, it's saved as one file with all the pics needed....I am still trying to wrap my head around how to work with that, might take a lil bit before I make postable updates. I also need to make upgrades to the creature dwellings, and I have NO idea what I am going to do for external dwellings as of yet.

Here are the town animation pics as found in the resource files:


Birds (May be hard to see)


Flag


Fog


Village Hall Flag


Water 1


Water 2

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Draeganfire
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posted February 16, 2017 04:01 PM
Edited by Draeganfire at 16:23, 20 Mar 2017.

Updated Picture

Okay, here is the "Fully Built" Valley minus animations. I had to add a few tweaks on some dwellings in order to give them upgraded structures, so some things may stand out a bit. I may tweak them later.



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Project is still active, just paused while I seek to get advice, put together a team (and deal with the interruptions of the outside world :-(  

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posted March 20, 2017 06:01 PM

I can help you in jsons.
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Draeganfire
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posted March 21, 2017 08:07 PM

That would be great! I have been doing research in jsons myself, but I definitely am a long way from proficient.

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Draeganfire
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posted March 24, 2017 03:49 PM
Edited by Draeganfire at 15:49, 24 Mar 2017.

Team Death Valley

I would like to welcome formally to Team Death Valley Acidchalk, who is working on converting town screen buildings to DEF files and Animating the town currently. And I would like to formally extend the invitation to Avatar to be our Json man! Welcome if you choose to accept!

Welcome all, I think this project will rock once we get it together!

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posted March 24, 2017 06:12 PM
Edited by avatar at 18:17, 24 Mar 2017.

Hey guys, please consider using png transparent files instead of def files. Source materials are high quality and will be bad to loose it during converting to 8-bit bmp files. Silaneo's H5 Necro Town will show you how to make town withous using def files. It's a matter of jsons, and I agreed to help with jsons But I need final graphic files as*.png files.
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Draeganfire
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posted April 01, 2017 05:55 PM
Edited by Draeganfire at 17:56, 01 Apr 2017.

team Death Valley teaser!

Hey Guys, here's a teaser pic from Acidchalk's work on the project!


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zeryss
zeryss


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posted April 02, 2017 07:36 PM

When the release?

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Draeganfire
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posted April 02, 2017 07:45 PM
Edited by Draeganfire at 17:03, 06 Apr 2017.

No set date yet, but rest assured we are working hard, and since I think all three of us are excited and impatient to get this town in our collections......
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Village (without fort) on map


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Draeganfire
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posted May 09, 2017 10:34 PM

Siege Screen


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zeryss
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posted May 09, 2017 11:11 PM

super

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Macron1
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posted May 10, 2017 07:11 PM

Godly!

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zeryss
zeryss


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posted May 10, 2017 08:16 PM
Edited by zeryss at 12:15, 11 May 2017.

Hero sprite test death valley

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Baronus
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posted May 10, 2017 10:13 PM

I suggest something another than necro. Maybe sceletal version of Castle?

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