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PandaTar
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posted May 19, 2017 03:14 AM

TY both.
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LizardWarrior
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Age of erwins is over
posted May 19, 2017 08:50 AM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 11:37, 19 May 2017.

GenyaArikado said:
He's in Ashan so by default he is emo and gay-as-an-insult.


Genya, get off your high horse before you fall and break something. You got no moral high ground here.

Galaad said:

When someone uses "gay" as an insult, it is not referred to sexuality. "This band sounds gay", "What a gay haircut", etc. Lizard saying "Ashan Sandro is gay" does not make him a homophobe.


Phobia would mean I find gays scary. Gay/Metrosexual Sandro Potter from Spiders and Magic: Erwin Guardians isn't what I would call scary.

Sligneris said:
I don't get the Ashan Sandro hate. Isn't he a pretty well done character? Well, his appearance in this one is particularly strange, but funnily enough he's not even too out of character.


First, I'm mainly talking about Sandro from Bubbles&Friends CQ clone. Secondly, it doesn't take much to be a well written character in Ashan, considering you got Bella from Twilight and Isabel there. Thirdly, Sandro was just used as a cash grabbing machine for the old fans. You got a skull strapped on the magic Necropolis hero and it's called Sandro in order to sell a stupid overpriced map pack dlc. Then in h5 it's only a mention and an artifact, in 50 Shades of Purple he's just a plot device (duh huh it happens because Sandro, but Sandro doesn't even appear, buy our overpriced dlc). Then you got this mockery of a knock-off and let's not forget they tarnished the old Sandro too in their new Generic Mobile Game #44536. Haven't played Heroes Online, but from what I have heard it was Pay2win to its finest, so I don't have high hopes for some quality writing.

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GenyaArikado
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posted May 19, 2017 02:09 PM

I'm perfectly aware of where I am standing. It's you who seems to think the Old Universe was a Nobel Prize in Literature winning thing lol.

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LizardWarrior
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Age of erwins is over
posted May 19, 2017 02:38 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 14:42, 19 May 2017.

No it wasn't. It had lots of plotholes and some forgettable stories with bland characters. But everything looks like a Pulitzer Prize winner compared to the turd that is Ashan.

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Erwin eternal! *casts random spell*


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GenyaArikado
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posted May 19, 2017 04:07 PM

"Filled with plotholes", "Isabel", "Griffin Eternal"

You do realize H5 was 10 years ago right?

On the other hand being stuck in the past seems to be a prevalent thing here

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Galaad
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posted May 19, 2017 04:49 PM

GenyaArikado said:
On the other hand being stuck in the past seems to be a prevalent thing here


Which is why we rather play 2017 mobile game Creature Quest.

Nothing is wrong with new, things are wrong with bad.
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GenyaArikado
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posted May 19, 2017 05:05 PM

Another symptom of the same thing. You play that game because it has that guy name attached, not because it's the most original or the best lol

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posted May 19, 2017 05:08 PM

By the same thing, we wouldn't even play other sequels because they have the same name of the game that was made dozens of years ago.

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verriker
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posted May 19, 2017 05:08 PM

Galaad said:
Which is why we rather play 2017 mobile game Creature Quest.

Nothing is wrong with new, things are wrong with bad.


for sure IMHO only a very obsessive person will endlessly mumble and gripe about community being stuck in the past when it is clearly not lol

no offense but if one does not have something nice to say about the HC there is always the door to not waste your time cheers lol
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Galaad
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posted May 19, 2017 05:22 PM

GenyaArikado said:
You play that game because it has that guy name attached, not because it's the most original or the best lol


Feel free to think that, but obviously I know best for what reasons I play a game. I'll give you a hint: I play games I enjoy playing.
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GenyaArikado
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posted May 19, 2017 05:56 PM

verriker said:
Galaad said:
Which is why we rather play 2017 mobile game Creature Quest.

Nothing is wrong with new, things are wrong with bad.


for sure IMHO only a very obsessive person will endlessly mumble and gripe about community being stuck in the past when it is clearly not lol

no offense but if one does not have something nice to say about the HC there is always the door to not waste your time cheers lol


Because it's the only Heroes site that isnt absolutely dead. I come here to talk about Heroes but every discussion derails into the same topics always.

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Sligneris
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posted May 19, 2017 06:09 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 18:13, 19 May 2017.

GenyaArikado said:
Another symptom of the same thing. You play that game because it has that guy name attached, not because it's the most original or the best lol

I have to admit I got the same impression about Creature Quest. Were the current M&M team to produce that kind of work, you'd hear complaints to no end about it - perhaps about its visual style if nothing else.

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Galaad
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posted May 19, 2017 06:22 PM
Edited by Galaad at 18:29, 19 May 2017.

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Because it's the only Heroes site that isnt absolutely dead.


Following a decade of the brand under Ubi, nothing surprising...

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Were the current M&M team to produce that kind of work, you'd hear complaints to no end about it


You guys got lot of assumptions going on. Anyway, what about talking about the games and not the posters?
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Stevie
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posted May 19, 2017 07:19 PM

Sligneris said:
GenyaArikado said:
Another symptom of the same thing. You play that game because it has that guy name attached, not because it's the most original or the best lol

I have to admit I got the same impression about Creature Quest. Were the current M&M team to produce that kind of work, you'd hear complaints to no end about it - perhaps about its visual style if nothing else.


To be honest, I play it because it's fun, not because of any past legacy.
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GenyaArikado
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posted May 19, 2017 09:54 PM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 21:58, 19 May 2017.

Sligneris said:
I have to admit I got the same impression about Creature Quest. Were the current M&M team to produce that kind of work, you'd hear complaints to no end about it - perhaps about its visual style if nothing else.


That's exactly what's happening. The most lush part is this game gets called childish-looking while in the same paragraph this gets praised



Galaad said:

Following a decade of the brand under Ubi, nothing surprising...


Defending Ashan doesn't equal defend Ubisoft dear and neither i calling out the hypocrisy. After H5 (which was the series second peak, like it or not) they made sloppy games and MM payed the price but lore isn't the reason for poor balance and bugs not matter how much you believe otherwise.

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LizardWarrior
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posted May 19, 2017 10:02 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 22:03, 19 May 2017.

Creature Quest isn't a heroes game, it's not even a might and magic game. I know you are desperate to prove us "wrong", but besides the creator there is no connection between CQ and Heroes, while Ubi just tirelessly milks the franchise, Spider Guardians is like the 3rd or 4th game in 2 years after Heroes VII.
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Galaad
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posted May 19, 2017 10:02 PM
Edited by Galaad at 22:17, 19 May 2017.

GenyaArikado said:
That's exactly what's happening. The most lush part is this game gets called childish-looking while in the same paragraph this gets praised


Oh please, can't you see the difference? Both games look nothing alike.



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After H5 (which was the series second peak, like it or not)


H5 is second most popular for its gameplay not for its lore.
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Sligneris
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posted May 19, 2017 11:45 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 00:00, 20 May 2017.

Stevie said:
To be honest, I play it because it's fun, not because of any past legacy.
Yep, that much is fair I guess.

LizardWarrior said:
Creature Quest isn't a heroes game, it's not even a might and magic game. I know you are desperate to prove us "wrong", but besides the creator there is no connection between CQ and Heroes
If it's so irrelevant to Heroes, then why is it so overhyped on Heroes forums on the basis of Heroes creator being involved, whilst it would not really be noticed in the endless sea of mobile games otherwise? Don't get me wrong, I don't know enough about Creature Quest to give it a fair review. But there's some irony in you guys complaining for about a decade that current Might & Magic doesn't have enough edge for you, that it's too childish and not dark enough, that Dungeon and Necropolis don't follow the "always chaotic evil" principle, that it's too gay or whatever... and then as soon as you hear of a cartoony mobile game that just happens to have that one dude from the old M&M involved, you completely ignore it has the very features you despised, and immediately hail it as a masterpiece. Shows that in the end it's all about the attitude you approach things with, huh?

LizardWarrior said:
Spider Guardians
I didn't see any major Necropolis involvement in Elemental Guardians so far.

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verriker
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posted May 20, 2017 12:17 AM

Sligernis your posts live up to their usual standard mate because again you are very presumptuous and putting lots of words in the mouth, citation needed on that, if you will look back on my posts I have actually trashed Creature Quest early on and have only been converted to enjoy it by the sheer quality of the game lol

also no offense to all but this is the stupidest Ashanite debate I have seen in a long time, there is no hypocrisy to enjoy Creature Quest while slamming Erwinmental Guardians because they have nothing to do with each other, Creature Quest is the fun and addictive mobile game from JVC, Erwinmental Guardians is purporting to be an official Might and Magic licensed game and must deliver the expectations but in fact it is a mere Chinese bootleg with bad looking mechanics lol

Galaad is obviously not literally contending that Creature Quest is a next Heroes game but that it is a perfect playable alternative we have in a dystopian climate where Erwin has failed to deliver, in the same vein as King's Bounty and Age of Wonders 3 lol

obviously the Heroes Community will be happy to support and promote a JVC project like Creature Quest because there would be no Heroes Community without JVC, he created the series and an excellent track record of great games so he gets the credibility, meanwhile why would anybody have good faith for an Erwin game or a Ubisoft Might and Magic game, what is their recent track record to earn or warrant that lol

thus all of your claims of ironies and hypocrisies are weird and baseless, it really does not take much effort and perceptiveness to understand the reception of these games so pull up your socks cheers lol
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Galaad
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posted May 20, 2017 12:35 AM

If I were to give benefit of doubt to Sligneris I'd say he simply didn't understand any of the complaint from this community even though he took active part arguing with it back in h7 days. I am certainly not willing to explain the same thing for the nth time but I'm gentle enough to give a few hints that should suffice: most of the posters here will agree h2 has the most charming, fairy-talish graphics of the series and is put on a pedestal for that, with the biggest h3 mod being a graphic port from h2 to h3 (with new units and objects made from scratch in the same style). Dungeon was loved for being Greek mythos focused, Necropolis for being a town of the Undead like its name suggest and not something revolving around buddhists who happen to worship creatures from Walt Disney.
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